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Re: [Vo]:Clear, odorless, water-based & combustible Jed Rothwell Sun, 17 Apr 2011 08:40:23 -0700 Jones Beene wrote: In the category of clear water-based liquids which burn cleanly enough to >
be used indoors, and which could be confused with water in a testing >
arrangement (since it would be so unexpected as the ‘trick’ used to pull-off >
the deception) - there are several choices. >
How much would it cost to make 54 tons of it? That’s how much they would need for the 18-hour test. Might be hard to hide. - Jed
How much would it cost to make 54 tons of it? That’s how much they would need for the 18-hour test. Might be hard to hide. - Jed
But he isn't using "tons" of fluid to run the e-cat. He's only using at most 2.5 gallons per hour. Note that he has a pump with that rating pumping the working liquid, which Rossi claims is plain water, into the e-cat.
This is a video made by Rossi, showing the device running in early September. Go to 2:45 to see the part where he shows the "water" supply. He is feeding the working liquid through a tiny hose from a plastic garbage pail, which is at most 1/4 full. The pump he uses to inject the "water" into the e-cat has a maximum capacity of 10 liters (2.5 gallons) per hour.
So there certainly isn't a problem with him using something other than water to fake these tests. I would note that Amazon.com carries 5-gallon containers of 35% Hydrogen Peroxide for less than $150, so the total "fuel" cost for his for 4-hour test would be less than $300.
The fact that in this latest test he pumped "tons" of plain water through a secondary pathway is totally irrelevant to the e-cat function. In fact, it turned out to be a nice bit of misdirection, since it is (correctly) assumed that he couldn't produce "tons" of some magic fuel.
I'll ask the question again: Has anyone tested the liquid Rossi is actually pumping into the e-cat to verify that it is water? If so, then I guess I'm wrong. But I've never read or seen any indication that anyone actually examined the working fluid closely.
If, in fact, Rossi is still using a separate container to hold this fluid for his current tests (as he was doing last month, according to his own video), then he needs to prove that the fluid is, in fact, ordinary water. If he won't do so, then I think we've discovered how he's faking his results.