Skip to comments.Holidays Could Be Hell For TV Makers
Posted on 10/19/2011 3:32:49 PM PDT by Las Vegas Dave
Washington, D.C. (October 19, 2011) -- It's been a tough year for TV makers and a TVPredictions.com poll and other surveys suggest it could get even tougher this holiday season.
Asked if they planned to buy a HDTV this holiday season, 60.7 percent of our readers said no in an online poll taken here last week. Only 21.7 percent said yes while 17.6 percent said they weren't sure.
The dismal numbers follow an equally depressing survey result last week from the Ipsos organization. The company found that 45 percent of consumers plan to spend less this year compared to the 2010 holiday season. Only 11 percent said they would spend more.
While the survey did not specifically address consumers' plans for HDTVs and CE products, the overall numbers would suggest that people will keep a tight grip on their wallets this year.
Of course, for TV makers, this is just an additional topping of bad news. Thanks to the sluggish economy -- and consumers' lukewarm reception to new 3D TVs -- sales of new HDTVs have been flat this year. In the first quarter, sales of LCD sets even fell, albeit by 3.5 percent.
TV makers, and their CE retail partners, have been hoping that the holiday season would help turn the year around. But if the surveys reflect reality, that may not happen.
Consequently, I think you'll see TV makers slash prices even further than expected during the holiday shopping season. And, if they are smart, they will continue to downplay the 3D features of new sets and focus instead on how great the HD picture is.
Almost 18 percent of our survey respondents said they are not sure if they will buy a new set this holiday season; the TV makers better give them a good reason why they should.
Doesn’t everybody already pretty much have a TV in every room by now?
Heck, I watch most of my TV on my laptop, I rarely even watch my TV anymore.
There will be very few purchases from me this year for Christmas. I simply cannot afford anything. It’s ok though, I have my family and that’s enough.
Who wants a tv when there’s no heart-warming Christmas specials?
The leftists have killed Christmas specials and they have indeed killed television. I hate it. It’s not fit for pigs, Even if they wear lipstick like the current occupant of the White Hut’s wife wears!
“All this for a damned flag?”
I hate these anti-American, anti-Christan and Jew scum of the Chicago sewers!
Get the hell out of the executive mansion and take your #12’a off that antique desk you schmuck!
What’s happened to all the hype about plasma TV and that one with the little girl and “it’s the mirrors”? LCD TV’s seem to be the one that’s come out on top, like Beta vs VHS.
$249 for a no-name 1080p 32” LCD in the Fry’s ad today.
Christmas will be a price war bloodbath.
That’s part of the problem. TV’s are made too well now.
In the past, manufacturers could count on the occasional tube blowing or the occasional shoe breaking the tube.
Also, since HD manufacturers haven’t come up with any worthwhile features that people are willing to lay out some bucks for. 3-D hasn’t proven the draw that many were counting on.
“I have my family and thats enough.”
That makes you a rich man.
I just bought a nice 50” LCD HDTV which web enabled. I now get Netflix, HULU-plus and various other downloadable programming and apps.
I’ve ditched the satellite dish and the cable (no longer need a land line due to a smartphone). Feels that it’s a brave new frontier.
If the entertainment industry is smart, they’ll see the writing on the wall and offer more internet programming.
My wife and I finally made a big television purchase this summer...got a 55” Samsung (Went for probably the last six or seven years without a real television...had a 12” LCD in the kitchen...:)
I don’t watch any television at all, but I do love watching movies and NFL football, and that is great! Netflix is fine with an occasional rental from the Apple store. We don’t have cable...and that is fine.
I must say...I have watched several 3D movies, and I liked it. People seem really down on it, but the features I watched were fine, didn’t strain my eyes and had nice looking 3D. Two glasses came with the set, and I got a free 3D kit from Amazon with two more.
I love being able to watch movies on something bigger than my computer now...:)
Who’d spend all that money for nothing?
Where do you get the internet from...?
Sorry about the double post.
I will watch the prices. I’d like to ditch my 60” DLP and go with a 60” plasma or LCD.
What I want is a DAR. Digital Audio Recorder that works similar to the DVR.
A radio receiver with a hard drive and the ability to stop, reverse, record.
Many times I wish I could replay something Rush or Mark Steyn said or save it for my wife to hear.
Haven’t seen one on the market.
I ditched the cable tv...still have the internet cable.
What’s a “TV”?
Thanks Las Vegas Dave. 3D TV appears to be a massive waste of money. But the fact that demand will be well under the supply is a good thing. :’)
Funny...this is the year we’re finally planning to buy a new TV, and a house to put it in.
One nice thing is that a lot of the old Christmas specials you've seen in the past can now be seen on ABC Family, which is generally part of most basic cable TV or satellite TV packages.
1. Buying one or the other TV will not limit your ability to view content designed for the other— because no such design differences exist.
2. Plasma TV is (still, may change) superior to LCD in terms of brightness, contrast and to a lesser extent color quality. This superiority (a) comes at a price (plasma costs more) and (b) is nearly invisible to the naked or untrained eye. People will bypass the “best” in favor of the “good enough” if there's sufficient price advantage.
I'm still watching a 1997-model 19” CRT, and so are a lot of other people. This year I plan to pick out a 32” LCD panel in 720p. 32”-ers are available in 1080p, but in that size I don't see the advantage to higher resolution. With a dreamland unlimited budget, I'd probably go for a 50+” plasma in 1080p and then die of butt calluses during my 4,853rd viewing of the Battle of the Pelennor Fields.
Best thing about HDTV: it is totally awesome for football (both the American and soccer kind), totally awesome for basketball, and has actually made baseball and hockey watchable again.
I almost went with a Panasonic 42” 1080p plasma TV, but back in March 2010 they tended to use more power at reasonable brightness levels than the Sony KDL-40EX500 40” LCD I finally got. I do like the current crop of 42” plasma displays, though—they’ve really improved the power consumption and because plasma displays have a “natural” refresh rate of 600 Hz, it also means no motion blurring on very fast motion like what you see in action movies and live sporting events.
NFL football is just amazing to watch in HD. Heh, I hike my chair up to about four feet away...:)
Hey, thanks for that. My thing was will there be just a standard TV where LCD would be the one? Are there many sales of plasma or that one with mirrors or whatever?
TV’s are thrifty - - it’s the cable cost that amazes me.
I’m considering setting up my old CRT or going to the local pub to watch football. It would be cheaper and I get to flirt with the waitress.
Reruns/Podcasts are on Rush’s website
But you have to pay to hear them. : (
I figure, if I don’t buy something I don’t need, then I’m richer to the extent of what I didn’t pay.
So, as a country, the more of something we don’t need that we don’t buy, the better off we are as a country.
That goes for TV’s that we don’t need.
So, this is good news, right?
I may be the only one who feels this way, but I do not like the LED TV’s...prefer the LCD picture.
Two friends have the large screen LED’s, and to me it makes movies look like they were filmed with the average camcorder. Have watched several different style movies, and all have that same look on LED.
I hope they never phase out the LCD’s.
Like, for instance, there is a market for Ferraris. I have a minivan. Both burn gasoline to carry the driver from point A to point B a lot faster than I can walk, but with the Ferrari you're paying for performance and workmanship that you don't get in the domestic minivan market.
There's also a matter of taste; don't get me wrong, I think Ferraris are way cool, but aside from the fact that I don't have that much money in the car budget, my wife and I just really like the comfort and cargo capacity of our minivan. Likewise, a 32" panel set will just "fit better" in our living room, the "cool factor" of a giant screen notwithstanding.
Have you seen a set made up of an array of LEDs? Could you point me at a store ad for one?
An LED TV does not use LEDs for the pixels, that part is still LCD. LEDs are used for the light source instead of the older fluorescent tubes. And while the first implementations may be somewhat lacking, it is the future.
Well, at least until they get LEDs to provide the pixels.
I dont have a tv, planning to purchase on though. I have decided not to darken another theatre and am trying to set up a film room.
I am looking at the Samsung 55. Do you have to watch it in three d? Is the regular picture just as good? Where did you get it and would you get it there again?
Records 10 hours of radio.
Do the TV shows and specials suck less in 3D?
Id pay money I dont have for TV shows that entertain me and dont try to indoctrinate me.
I love my plasma. The refresh rate of the LCDs (even the high rate models) did not compare with plasma.
I want that too! With noisy kids, I often miss something on the radio that I really wanted to hear! And no quick rewind!
I imagine the 55” would be an upgrade over this, so, yes, I can recommend it.
Oh - we got ours at Best Buy. Would I go back? Of course! I still do!
Hi Chickensoup...I got it from Amazon, and would gladly get it from them again. You don’t have to watch in 3D. If you have a 3D movie, you put the movie in the player, put on the glasses, press the power button on the glasses, and they synch to the television (via bluetooth, I think).
They are electronic, not like the ones you see at the movies, and comfortable to wear. I have two different kinds, two of them use a watch battery, they other two plug into a USB port to charge. Either way, not bad.
The unit we got has wireless in it, so you can go on the internet (a bit ungainly, but you can do it) or you can simply use one of their samsung apps to watch netflix. I have an Apple TV unit, so I use that to do Netflix...it is more elegant, I think.
The regular viewing is spectacularly crisp, but I will caution that there is something about the quality of the picture that some people don’t like. I think they call it “the soap opera lighting effect” or something like that.
Check out this link I just found at random that explains it, but there is a way around it, apparently:
Heck, I have had the unit for several months now, and haven’t got around to adjusting it yet, so you can see how much it bothers me. I guess that just comes from not watching television at all, and when I watched movies, was watching on my computer screen.
I would buy this unit in a heartbeat. There is almost no bezel, so it looks like a sheet of black glass, and it is about an inch and a half thick or something ridiculous like that. We will be mounting it above our fireplace (once we get the power and cable routing installed) with a low profile samsung mount that hangs it like a picture frame.
Don’t tell anybody but I signed up for Rush’s 24/7 2 yr subscription 4 years ago and haven’t been asked to renew and my password still works.
Vinnie, There are a few software apps that does what you have described..I use the “Total Recorder” software (http://www.highcriteria.com/ )to schedule, and record Rush, or anything that I want to hear at a later time..(it can record anything that comes through your sound card, in Mp3 format),so my wife can hear it later..it costs about $18 dollars; but it works well.
If you don’t wish to spend money, there’s the FREE software “Kat Mp3 Recorder”, (http://www.goodkatshare.com/kat-mp3-recorder) which does the same thing as Total Recorder.
Then, there’s “Audacity” (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/), which is a free software that is also an audio editor as well as an audio recorder. it’s pretty decent as well.
Just a few suggestions for your consideration.
I knew if I waited a little longer it would pay off. I’ve had the money set aside for an LCD for more than a year, but it hasn’t really been burning a hole in my wallet, so I’ve been putting it off. Mostly, because who wants to watch my Broncos suck that badly in HD (lol)? Maybe it’s finally getting to be about time to take the plunge. Might start doing a little research and window shopping...