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To: cripplecreek; SampleMan
Thank you for demonstrating the failure of "hand-waving Physics".

Let's try math, instead of handwaving. We wish to determine the acceleration due to gravity acting upon an object as a function of its proximity to some other object. The two objects are (let us say) a hammer, and the moon. The each have mass Mh and Mm. According to Newton, a force acting on a mass M causes acceleration.

F=m*a

The gravitational force between two massive objects can be computed

Fg = G*(M1*M2)/ R2

where "R" is the distance between them. So, the gravitational acceleration of a hammer falling on the moon may be calculated:

Fg = G*(Mm*Mh)/ R2 = Mh*a

Note that Mh cancels out of this equation. Acceleration of an object (a hammer) due to the gravitational attraction of another object (the moon) is not a function of the first object's (the hammer) mass.

32 posted on 11/02/2011 7:56:31 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I’m impressed.

I knew what the equations were, but lacked the ambition to actually “typeset” them in HTML.


33 posted on 11/02/2011 8:04:27 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Acceleration of an object (a hammer) due to the gravitational attraction of another object (the moon) is not a function of the first object's (the hammer) mass.

Really, so Jupiter and Earth have the same pull on the sun in your world.

You only did half of the equation.

36 posted on 11/03/2011 5:03:13 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Note that Mh cancels out of this equation. Acceleration of an object (a hammer) due to the gravitational attraction of another object (the moon) is not a function of the first object's (the hammer) mass.

What you are clearly doing is treating one of the masses as a parent mass, and ignoring the other.

According to your equation, if we swapped the moon and hammer as M1 and M2, the gravitational force would immediately drop off to near nothing.

Indeed, do the math.

43 posted on 11/03/2011 6:16:56 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Oh my goodness. I think I’m better at handwaving! :)


47 posted on 11/03/2011 7:38:36 AM PDT by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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