Posted on 11/05/2011 12:58:45 AM PDT by Kevmo
Andrea Rossi says his new machine fuses nickel and hydrogen at room temperature creating almost unlimited energy .
But there is one problem - many scientists claim it defies the very laws of physics. Several high-profile demonstrations of 'cold fusion' have been proven to be hoaxes in the past - and no one can adequately explain how or why it might work .
The United States Department of Energy the U.S. Patent Office say the process is impossible because physics rules out the possibility of room-temperature nuclear fusion .
But Rossi's E-Cat machine can allegedly do it, and he says he proved it worked during tests at the University of Bologna last month .
Key: Rossi says he has produced a pattern of triple track atoms, pictured, which is at the heart of the cold fusion theory
'We have nothing to say, just to make plans that work properly and let those facts win against the scepticism.'
Sterling Allan, CEO of the alternative energy news agency Pure Energy Systems, told FoxNews.com he attended Rossi’s demonstration and the E-Cat is self sustaining .
'What Rossi demonstrated was 470 kilowatts of continuous output in self-sustain mode -- meaning the output was enough to keep the thing running on its own,' he said.
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Can’t wait till the tax authorities go to collect the taxes on this alleged sale between Leonardo Industries and this supposed customer. The bill of sale will be subject to discovery.
Where was the export license for this unit from the US to Italy? etc... etcc..... taxes... Wire Fraud...
What an idiot con man.
Powder..patch..ball FIRE!
Big F’ing deal who posts the threads. If it will make you any happier and shut you up I’ll take over the cold fusion ping list.
Whatever. Just as long as you are aware that Rossi has been convicted five times.
After five convictions you would think he would have learned from his mistakes. OTOH, What's a few months in jail.
I love that gif! fantastic!
“Where was the export license for this unit from the US to Italy? “
You hit on an excellent point: Nuclear technology requires an export license as it is an ITAR regulated item. I am an ITAR trained and certified professional. :)
This never occurs to a con artist
Lots of surprises. I haven't read through it all the way but it's what I was speaking of earlier.
Which means there are some High energy nuclear reaction guys looking at Low energy nuclear reactions ~ starting with how the stock markets really work, and when do peaks emerge from the normal flow.
Here's a short hand way to look at the problem. Out of every 100,000 neutrons, or protons, or electrons ~ 1 of them is going to have a larger charge than expected, more spin, or maybe velocity (remembering that some particles always move at the speed of light and others always move at less than the speed of light, and some tunnel one way and others another.
That means there's ordinary physics, and then there's super high energy physics where you have particles traveling and behaving the same way they would in a cyclotron rather than out in the real world.
It's not magic ~ it's just different.
That, BTW, is probably why nobody in this LENR field is coming down real hard and fast on the idea of energetic but low velocity neutrons being the secret ~ 'cause you could still have protons doing the dirty work. Fur shur these guys have lots and lots of gamma ray detectors around eh!
So?
Nothing he did is a crime here, or in most other countries for that matter.
Physics derived from operation of the Strong Nuclear Force are different in kind from physics derived from operation of the Weak Nuclear Force.
Again, does anybody stop and think about this? We have TWO nuclear forces ~ Weak and Strong. They do different stuff.
This business of LENR or "cold fusion" is fun to read about since so many folks who know a little bit or a whole lot have made it their hobby. It's kind of like the Blue Laser of the 2010's ~ first guy to hit it gets billions.
Alas, it's also like Sutter's Mill and some idiot told everybody about picking up gold in the crick!
You don't necessarily need to understand the details. You need to put gamma, X-ray, and neutron detectors around it and see if they detect anything. Keep it up for a month. If nothing, then you can have at least some small degree of confidence that it's not emitting dangerous radiation.
If the technology was originally developed in Italy, then he's not "exporting" technology, only hardware which he could just as easily construct there.
For the US government to convict him, though, they would need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury in open court that a nuclear reaction was occurring, now wouldn't they?
They no longer use the membrane pressure gauges that were so popular in automotives decades back.
The chips backing them up are pretty good too. I find it amazing they've been able to attach intuitively obvious analog controls to them.
You could wire up a modern bathroom scale to weigh 1000th of a gram without a lot of effort. The question is no longer about the quality of the weighing device ~ more like the capability of the LCD or LED to report it.
It's not just that the future of technology is better and better stuff, some of it is better in ways no one can imagine ~ it's just there, and it's good.
We are changing our home lighting over to LEDs as we can afford it (which involves a lot of bargains BTW).
A question for you ~ is it a Strong Nuclear Reaction or a Weak Nuclear Reaction?Don't know, don't care.
I'm perfectly willing to consider that Rossi has discovered a whole new branch of physics, one that can convert Nickel into Copper and/or Iron without producing the fatal level of gamma rays that existing theory and experimentation demands.
I'm not willing to consider it when all we have it Rossi's dog & pony shows. Given Rossi's unsubstantiated claims that he has run an E-Cat for two years, and has heated his factory for six months, the public demonstrations are pathetic. He could have easily proven that his device works, but he has instead spent a year repeatedly avoiding just that.
If an when an independent group publicly announces that they have tested Rossi's device and determined that it is doing what Rossi claims, then I'll reconsider my position. However, we haven't reached that point yet.
One additional point: I don't have an opinion on LENR in general. It's only Rossi that I doubt, based on the numerous details that all point to fraud.
I have some bad LED's. My bathroom scale is only good to about 1/2 pound!
If the technology was originally developed in Italy, then he's not "exporting" technology, only hardware which he could just as easily construct there.Rossi claimed that he had a factory in Florida where E-Cat parts were being manufactured. It turned out that this "factory" was a 5th floor apartment.For the US government to convict him, though, they would need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury in open court that a nuclear reaction was occurring, now wouldn't they?
If existing physics is right, then Rossi's device must be putting out massive amounts of gamma rays, and shouldn't be allowed to be distributed without the appropriate safeguards.
If Rossi is transmuting Nickel into other elements by (as he himself said) an unknown process, he probably shouldn't be allowed to distribute his device until we understand the possible effects of this "unknown nuclear process".
If Rossi is a con man, then we presumably don't have to worry about the safety of the device. Our only concern is whether he is defrauding anyone in the process of selling his E-Cats.
I haven't seen any evidence so far that Rossi has made any effort to certify the safety of his device. Like everything else about this, we have to rely on Rossi's unsubstantiated word that it works and that it's safe.
He says the shielding stops the rays. He is going to have to transport it as a radioactive device.
We already know that he is a con man .... convicted five times.
Thats about 1 part in one billion! Please show me some data!!!!!!!!!!!
Please show me the bathroom scale that will hold over 13,000 kgs.
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