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John McCain rips GOP presidential candidates Herman Cain, Michele Bachmann on waterboarding
The New York Daily News ^ | 2011-11-15

Posted on 11/15/2011 12:50:46 PM PST by rabscuttle385

The Arizona lawmaker—who was tortured himself while a prisoner of war in Vietnam — said the controversial practice was both illegal and ineffective.

BY ALIYAH SHAHID

Republican Sen. John McCain is ripping presidential candidates in his party who insist waterboarding is an effective technique for interrogating suspected terrorists.

The Arizona lawmaker—who was tortured himself while a prisoner of war in Vietnam — said the controversial practice was both illegal and ineffective on Monday evening.

“Very disappointed by statements at SC GOP debate supporting waterboarding,” he tweeted. “Waterboarding is torture.”

McCain, who ran for President in 2008, elaborated on CNN later, arguing, “If you put enough physical pain on somebody, they will tell you whatever they think that you want to hear in order for the pain to stop.”

The lawmaker was speaking specifically to remarks made by former pizza business magnate Herman Cain and Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann at Saturday’s Republican presidential debate.

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...McCain suggested endorsing the technique was hypocritical.

“Ask any military lawyer; ask any person who knows about the Geneva conventions that we're signatories to. We actually prosecuted Japanese war criminals specifically for the act of waterboarding against Americans,” he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


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1 posted on 11/15/2011 12:50:49 PM PST by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

Stuff it Juan.


2 posted on 11/15/2011 12:52:20 PM PST by MichaelCorleone (Doesn't anyone love liberty anymore?)
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To: rabscuttle385

Looks like McQueeg is alive and well. To bad he as lost his sanity.


3 posted on 11/15/2011 12:52:50 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: rabscuttle385

Maybe McCain could tell us when Al Qaida signed the Geneva Conventions? What ever happened to “If you don’t abide by the rules, you can’t expect your enemy to do likewise”?


4 posted on 11/15/2011 12:53:34 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Parley Baer

I was going to add that his daughter did not fall far from the tree. Apparently she wound up next to the trunk.


5 posted on 11/15/2011 12:53:48 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: rabscuttle385

John McCAN’T needs to STFU and go away. Waterboarding IS NOT torture.


6 posted on 11/15/2011 12:54:26 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: MichaelCorleone

sorry but I think anything around the McCain house that can be stuffed already has been - into his daughter!


7 posted on 11/15/2011 12:54:26 PM PST by bigbob
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To: rabscuttle385

8 posted on 11/15/2011 12:54:31 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: rabscuttle385

From what I can tell, McCain has been waterboarded no more often than Cain or Bachmann has - meaning Cain and Bachmann are just as expert on waterboarding as McCain is.

Being tortured 65 years ago does not make one an expert on every damned thing — but it makes them think they are apparently.


9 posted on 11/15/2011 12:54:46 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: rabscuttle385
McCain, who ran for (Obama to be) President in 2008...

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10 posted on 11/15/2011 12:54:46 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: rabscuttle385

John who? Oh, the guy from the movie, that little pipsqueek, Capt. McQueg?


11 posted on 11/15/2011 12:55:43 PM PST by Paperdoll (II like Herman Cain)
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To: rabscuttle385

I am sure McCain would be in agreement with this judge too

http://www.cnbc.com/id/45303217


12 posted on 11/15/2011 12:57:23 PM PST by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: rabscuttle385

The McCain opens his mouth and psuedo liberal flip flopping compromise feel good junk come out. I’m shocked.


13 posted on 11/15/2011 12:58:24 PM PST by Red6
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To: rabscuttle385

Perhaps someone should waterboard Sen McQuack himself.


14 posted on 11/15/2011 12:58:54 PM PST by Ron H.
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To: rabscuttle385
“Ask any military lawyer; ask any person who knows about the Geneva conventions that we're signatories to. We actually prosecuted Japanese war criminals specifically for the act of waterboarding against Americans,” he said.

McCain is totally deranged.

The Geneva convention doesn't cover guerrilla warfare.

What the Japanese did was the real thing that killed, what we did was a faked version to scare folks without harming them.

What McCain encountered in VietNam was the real thing, and he admitted in his books that he broke and told what he knew.

Real torture works. We stopped giving court martials for folks who broke and talked under torture because the military decided that it can't be helped.

It turns out that fake torture, just scaring folks, worked too.

15 posted on 11/15/2011 12:59:31 PM PST by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: rabscuttle385

stfu Juan McCaino!


16 posted on 11/15/2011 12:59:33 PM PST by Ancient Drive (DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
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To: rabscuttle385

I say Waterboarding is humane!


17 posted on 11/15/2011 1:00:48 PM PST by Ancient Drive (DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Shut your piehole John nobody asked you.


18 posted on 11/15/2011 1:02:13 PM PST by linn37
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To: rabscuttle385

Well I see he’s back to being the media darling again!

Cindie


19 posted on 11/15/2011 1:03:42 PM PST by gardencatz (I'm lucky enough to live, walk & breathe among heroes! I am the mother of a US Marine!)
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To: MichaelCorleone

Who gives a damn what Fecalhead McCain has to say. He was a lousy candidate and and has a sorry offspring. He was so damned stupified in the debates against Obama that he gave the presidency to him. And Romney is no better. McCain was a dud in the military and he was a dud as a nominee. He should roll over and pull the dirt in on top of him. Harsh? Well, I just didn’t have the words in me.


20 posted on 11/15/2011 1:04:28 PM PST by Jukeman
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To: rabscuttle385

I know Special Forces go through “SERE” training to understand how the enemy may interogate them...Do fighter pilots go through the same? Would McCain say he was tortured then by the US Navy?


21 posted on 11/15/2011 1:06:04 PM PST by jakerobins
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To: slowhandluke
What the Japanese did was kill people. Waterboarding doesn't kill. It was tossed into one of the war criminal indictments as a sort of "everything but the kitchen sink" deal.
22 posted on 11/15/2011 1:06:11 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: rabscuttle385

I’m sure the author’s name is mere coincidence.


23 posted on 11/15/2011 1:07:32 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: muawiyah

If anyone but Romney wins, McCain will be a “maverick” and endorse Barack.


24 posted on 11/15/2011 1:12:57 PM PST by bigdirty
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To: rabscuttle385

I thought we had made up for waterboarding Khalid with the Fast and Furious program. Is McCain thinking we did not kill enough Americans because Khalid’s plan was much bigger. Does he have a town in the US we should bomb to make the numbers higher. What a dunce.


25 posted on 11/15/2011 1:19:12 PM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: bigdirty

Hell, he endorsed him when he was the nominee. The good people of Arizona return him to the Senate at every opportunity. So, there are still those that love him. I am just not one of them.


26 posted on 11/15/2011 1:23:25 PM PST by sport
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To: muawiyah
Not only did the Japanese kill US prisoners randomly, some fo their officers actually ate them. This is referenced in the book "Flyboys" which, oddly enough, was written by the author "Flags of my Fathers" -- a book about Sen. McCain's father & grandfather.
27 posted on 11/15/2011 1:30:19 PM PST by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: rabscuttle385
We actually prosecuted Japanese war criminals specifically for the act of waterboarding against Americans,” he said.

I'm pretty sure this is a lie, for the simple reason that if it were true it would have been publicized when this issue was first argued in the press.

28 posted on 11/15/2011 1:32:19 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: rabscuttle385

This is my take on McCain. He wants to ensure that the Republicans lose this round because he lost the last time. He knows that people will remember that he lost the race and wants to have people think that the population just doesn’t want a Republican President right now instead of thinking that he just sucks. I am seriously thinking I am right. He would rather another Republican lose so it takes the onus off of him alone. Think about it. Why would a Republican NOT RUNNING right now blast any candidate.


29 posted on 11/15/2011 1:34:51 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: rabscuttle385

Just change the term name to “Enhanced Shower Technique”.


30 posted on 11/15/2011 1:37:45 PM PST by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: rabscuttle385

Ugh, what a maroon.


31 posted on 11/15/2011 1:49:01 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
McCain is just jealous that Bachmann and Cain are more of a hero than he will ever be.

McStain is a disgrace to the uniform he claimed to wear.

32 posted on 11/15/2011 1:50:18 PM PST by PalinPlease
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To: rabscuttle385

Knowing that John McCain is still in the Senate is torture for me.

What is keeping him from joining the party he really belongs to, The Democrats.


33 posted on 11/15/2011 1:52:12 PM PST by Venturer
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To: hinckley buzzard
They did ~ but the propagandists make out like the guy was executed solely for waterboarding. He was actually executed for killing people and cutting off their parts ~ REAL TORTURE.

He did a lot of killing.

Waterboarding was not a capital offense then or now. It shouldn't be an offense at all.

34 posted on 11/15/2011 2:13:28 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Thanks for the endorsement, Juan.

Thanks for telling us who are the real conservatives in this race.


35 posted on 11/15/2011 4:07:53 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: rabscuttle385

Well John we prosecute Americans for killing other Americans absent due process. Is death by missile up the whazoo more inhumane than dunking?


36 posted on 11/15/2011 4:12:03 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: PalinPlease
McStain is a disgrace to the uniform he claimed to wear.

Could you explain that please.

37 posted on 11/15/2011 4:15:41 PM PST by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Personally I have no problem with waterboarding the creeps they have at Gitmo, but after what McCain endured I have to respect his opinion on the subject.


38 posted on 11/15/2011 4:17:23 PM PST by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: BenKenobi

You’ll have to translate that into some “who struck johns” if I’m supposed to figure out what you just said.


39 posted on 11/15/2011 4:26:14 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Juan attacking Cain and Bachmann is the same thing as an endorsement.


40 posted on 11/15/2011 4:30:31 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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41 posted on 11/15/2011 4:41:10 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Churchillspirit

ONLY regarding the torture he endured ~ not the enhanced interrogation techniques used here. We don’t torture people ~ we kill them or take them prisoner. Waterboarding simply isn’t torture, and that’s not what the North Vietnamese did to him.


42 posted on 11/15/2011 5:04:20 PM PST by muawiyah
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