Posted on 11/21/2011 1:48:18 PM PST by Morgana
The bottom line is the Sandusky victims are the enemy of all that Penn Staters hold dear.
The Penn State cultists continue to reveal themselves for who they are, and what we’re seeing sure isn’t pretty.
It’s like they think the boy had the hots for being brute-handled by the coach and then twisted Sandusky! When almost always in such matters, they had little choice. It would have been beautiful, I confess, had the lad turned around and given Sandusky a left and then a right foot straight in the balls, and instead of a “rhythmic slapping sound” (ugh, retch) McQueary had heard a “YOWWWW! OWWWWWW! WHY YOU LITTLE @#$%^&*!!” But even this thought experiment clearly shows who we normally expect to bear the vast brunt of the guilt in such situations, and it ain’t the boy.
Homosexual Hangout. Queers are coming out as taught in schools and encouraged by the culture. Where is the real outrage belong? Every tolerant fool who thinks queers are normal needs a dose of this Penn reality. It is going to become more normal. Get numb or pray constantly.
According to one of the investigators still working on the investigation being conducted by the State Attorney General, by reporting it to Paterno, McQueary reported it to 'god.'
This is the result of a couple/three generations of throwing traditional aka “real” morality out the window. Now faggotry, pedophilia, lying, rioting, Occupuking, stealing, etcetcetc - it’s all “how you look at it”. And anyone standing up for traditional aka “real” morality?
Oh, we’re Taliban, prudes, “holier than thou”, sanctimonious, and worst of - “judgemental”.
The thing is - morality is all of a piece. Throw out some of it, and shortly it turns out they were all stuck together - they’re all gone. Because if people get to “vote” or pick and choose, it means people get to deicde what’s right and moral and what’s wrong and immoral. So “morality” blows in the wind.
Morality is the same in every religion (I always leave Islam out but even the Koran says some basic stuff, aside from the jihad...) - simple stuff. Because it’s Natural Law, it’s true, it’s simple Right and Wrong.
Once people get to “decide” what’s Right and Wrong it’s a couple of small baby steps to pedophilia, cannibalism, the gulags and finally, the killing fields.
agree.
ignorance, selfishness and cowardly behavior has got us to where we are.
Well I was at the game and I can say with certainty that damn near everything posted about the fans support for abused children is pure BS. I saw the sign and person in question and while I didn't witness the incident described (there were 110 K people there- you are bound to get one or two asshats a la the tea party) there was overwhelming support for the victims.Penn State alums have proven to be the most generous when it comes to charitable donations to all charities.To hear them (the 99%+of alums) described as justifying pedophilia because it hurts their beloved Nittany Lions is beyond the pale. A trial hasn't even been held yet!
People here as a guilty as the MSM is vis a vis the tea party. Most are arguing from their own conclusions and using isolated fringe elements to support their already formed and unfounded beliefs. To hear liberal loonies in the press do it is one thing. I would have expected better from my brother and sister freepers.
I hope PSU is offered a bowl game and I would vote 100% yes for them to accept it. To do otherwise is to punish the kids who had nothing to do with this. Caveat: if it is proven that PSU is complicit, they should forfeit 100% of their bowl money to abused children.
It ultimately matters what kind of God is believed in. God isn’t a piece of furniture that can be wheeled in to hang the “important morality stuff” on. I know C. S. Lewis attempted to make a case by consensus for a “Tao of man” but I think even he failed to note (maybe he honestly didn’t know) yes, there is at least one known place on earth where men are proud of double crossing those who had been kindest to them. And the like, which he likened to a place where 2 + 2 was believed to equal 5.
Sounds like witness tampering.
The original blue-out was to show support for Paterno. Remember that? Only after cooler heads prevailed did they decide that the same blue-out would be 'for the children." Which allowed everyone to wear their blue in support of Paterno and say (nudge, nudge) "it's for victims of child abuse; we . .. umm. . . changed the blue from support for Paterno on Friday. Yeah, that's the ticket."
As for "Penn State alums have proven to be the most generous when it comes to charitable donations to all charities," I'm glad to hear it. Is there anything that backs up that Penn State claim?
Unfounded beliefs? Unfounded beliefs? I read the Grand Jury presentment. I was perhaps the first person to post a link to it. Have you read it? Penn State had a problem. What's the basis for your beliefs?
Have you read the comments to any Penn State story, whether one of the dozens on ESPN, or at the New York Times, or anywhere in between? You would be embarrassed by Penn State fans and alumni. To the thousands posting, the only victim here was Paterno.
Do you know what the Penn State football program did to Jerry Sandusky after the 1998 investigation? They accepted his retirement effective at the end of the 1999 season. During 1999, he brought Victim #4 as his fourteen year-old 'date' to each official home game sleepover for the Penn State football team and coaches at Toftrees Golf Resort and Conference Center. Let me repeat this: after Paterno knew about Sandusky and Sandusky was forced out, he was given a year to bring an adolescent boy as his date to the official Penn State pregame sleepovers at Toftrees.
Do you know where they sat (have you read the presentment)? Sandusky and his boy sat at the coaches' table for the pregame banquets. During all of 1998 and 1999.
Did you know Sandusky molested Victim #4 in the showers and room at Toftrees (I'm not going to dignify it with "allegedly")
And that Penn State allowed Sandusky to bring the boy to the Alamo Bowl, where he molested him?
I have this image of Paterno and the other coaches handing Sandusky a gift-wrapped fourteen year-old boy with a card saying "Happy Early Retirement" as they boarded the plane. Sandusky wiping a tear from his eye, saying "gee guys, you didn't have to . . . I was only expecting a watch."
A guilty as the MSM is vis a vis the Tea Party? I respectfully suggest you be objective.
this is what happens to female sex abuse victims. “blame the victim”.
As for "unfounded beliefs" I was referring to the smear of Penn State students and alums regarding the fund raising for abused children. I was NOT defending the coaching staff or the university administration. I though I made that abundantly clear.
Of course it belief in God as He is matters.
But belief in God is voluntary, whereas standard morality upheld in society is. I don’t mean criminalizing adultery or stoning adulterers; but some things that are legal now should not be (pornography, sodomy) and some things that are “celebrated” or tolerated should be severely frowned upon and given some legal weight.
Belief in God, specifically particular denominations or sects or religions, is not something that the government should mandate or favor, but the universal morality that is taught in all religions should be.
BTW the law of karma can be stated in non-Sanskrit words:
As you sow, so shall you reap.
Pretty simple.
It’s like the f77 unix compiler. Christians say that the -onetrip option is enabled for everybody.
Sheesh, I didn’t proof read.
Of course it belief in God as He is matters.
Should be:
Of course belief in God as He is matters.
But belief in God is voluntary, whereas standard morality upheld in society is.
Should be:
But belief in God is voluntary, whereas standard morality upheld in society is NOT.
No idea what that is. But my point is simple - universal moral absolutes apply to everyone, everywhere, whatever they believe or don't believe. And such morality should be standard, but religion is voluntary.
We had a similar situation here some years back. A student told his parents that a very popular teacher had touched him inappropriately. The parents went to the principal the next day, and the teacher was put on administrative leave pending investigation. Students at the school made life so miserable for the student, he had to transfer out of there.
It took a while, but in time anothers victim from a youth group the teacher had been involved with came forward with similar stores about the teacher. Still, he received support form those who could not be swayed no matter what he’d done.
Sooner or later, people will have to take care of business. Because the justice system is offering less and less justice.
people often won’t believe female victims either - especially if the perpetrator is “well respected”
liberalism?
This is small town America.
Many people who admired JoePa (at one time) didn’t do so because they loved liberalism. Rather, they loved his message and “values” that he stood for.
And now that the curtain has been pulled back?
We see a cult of personality. Only the personality being worshipped isn’t so wonderful now.
It is too bad so many people don’t have the ability to stand back and ask, “who is the true hero of this story?”
So sad there are so many so-called decent people who don’t realize it is this kid.
I don’t know if you can chalk this up to a political issue.
Football is a religion all its own.
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