Solving the illegal alien problem.

[nomad]

Once again, sorry to jump in but: The border war itself is severely agravated BY the fact the various factions, pro cheap labor, progressive Cloward/Pivens, the bleeding hearts, all want a minimum presence ON the border to facilitate their ends of getting more illegals into the country. Its the flood of illegals that provides cover for the drug mules, either on foot or in vehicles.

If we staunch the flow of cover (illegals), then it becomes academic as to who are the drug mules crossing, at that point I say we use all means needed, including military equipment if required. A helicopter gunship would do wonders to "adjust" some narco-terrorist`s attitude.

But we need to limit collateral damage, again we need to play a smarter game and dead women and children drilled by an Apache gunner WILL NOT serve that end.

[steveab]

“But we need to limit collateral damage, again we need to play a smarter game and dead women and children drilled by an Apache gunner WILL NOT serve that end.”

I agree with you. But before any type of “Immigration reform” (allowing a “passport to citizenship”), all the laws on the books must be enforced. Employment verification and voting laws are just a couple of them.

[muawiyah]

No one is talking about shooting women and children ~ only Leftwingtards imagine that.

[muawiyah]

I was thinking White Castle might well start offering tomato slices.

[rmlew]

I think we can create a guest worker program that suits our needs. And Americans will do menial work, if paid. We have a 9% unemployment rate. Subsidizing companies with illegal alien labor should not be a priority, it should be a lose-reelection decision.

[fella]

The RICO and drug dealer laws are already on the books and being used at this time, they would make very good templates with precedents already set.

[caww]

Alabama and Arizona have proven that illegals will self-deport

To where? It's a mistake to say that Alab. and Ariz. hispanics returned to their nation...they simply moved to other states...and this is quite evidenced in my state now. Even in my small city.

How that would work on a national scale if all states agreed is another matter as there wouldn't be another state to run to if all were on board.

For that I would disagree with CAin's idea the states determine if or not they want the illegals.....they simply will go to states who have no such demands.

[caww]

All these ideas and comments have merit in a discussion about what to do with the illegals....however one sticking point which plays into the equation is the Mexican Gov. who is not about to let the revenues going into their country cease without a fight...and that could be even thru a proxy group or individuals.

Additionally is Perry's deals with Mexico and his very close relationship with MEcixon’s “shared business and industry” goals for their “joint “ border. Perry mentioning he is in agreement about establishing joint ventures for infrastructure and resources beneficial to Mexico and their ‘shared’ borders. Perry's going to be awful careful no federal laws interfer with his plans for his southern border.

[Vigilanteman]

I don't disagree with you. In fact, mechanical tomato harvesters were invented back in the early 1960's when tomato growers in California's Central Valley were having trouble getting enough tomato pickers in the wake of the Eisenhower Administration's highly successful Operation Wetback.

But now, agriculture is faced with a double whammy that they didn't deal with back then:

1. A free trade agreement with Mexico which would make it easier to just move production south of the border.
   
2. The presence of millions and millions more illegals within the United States who have far more income opportunities than agriculture, including sitting around waiting for their government check.

My point is that if there is a temporary need for more temporary agricultural workers, it can be solved with specific targeted and temporary guest worker legislation just as it was done for generation before the armies of illegals here became permanent squatters.

In most cases, you would have to get someone other than the illegal immigrants to take them for the obvious reasons that the illegal occupation armies have learned that there are far more easier ways to milk income out of Americans.

[Vigilanteman]

See my post #110.

[Nea Wood]

I KNOW they moved to other states. My point is, they will move. There’s no need to round them up, go door to door, or load them on boxcars, like the liberals are always claiming.