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Solving the illegal alien problem.

Posted on 11/26/2011 7:33:39 PM PST by nomad

There has been a great deal of discussion over the issue of illegals and amnesty. Some have accused the majority of calling for "cattle cars" to "brutalize" the poor illegals. I never thought I`d hear such demogoguery here on Freerepublic, and simply to support a favored candidate. Be that as it may, I`d like to issue this challenge to all who claim to support Conservatism: With the e-verify system, an admitedly imperfect but very improvable system, we can begin to verify who is and who isn`t legal to work in America;

Therfore, since it is a federal law (immigration) thats being broken and given that protection of the borders IS one of the Costitutionally prescribed duties of the federal government, will you call on your candidate of choice to:

A: Make it a federal offense and a felony to hire an illegal alien.

B: Impose massive fines and imprisonment on employers who do.

C:Make it illegal to give any public money in support to illegals-welfare, food stamps, housing assistance, tuition assistance-ANY Government support.

And D:Make it a federal offense and felony to aid or abet an illegal through the furnishing of forged ID or documentation that would allow them to use this form of indentity theft to attempt to aquire employment or stay here against the law.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; corporatewelfare; gingrich; newt; openborders; rinos; romney; slavelabor
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The purpose of this is simple; make it as difficult, if not impossible, for illegal aliens to make a living in America so they will self deport. So the tortured souls who anguish over the "cattle cars" can be assured their precious illegals will not be hunted down by the horrible, jingoistic conservatives, but will self-deport, because they have no jobs, no Gubmint help, in short-no choice!
1 posted on 11/26/2011 7:33:40 PM PST by nomad
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To: nomad
NOTE: The Constitution doesn't even imagine there is a "national border".

NOTE: 40 million Americans change address every year. There are only 12 million illegal aliens who need to change their address. It's doable.

2 posted on 11/26/2011 7:38:32 PM PST by muawiyah
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Glad to see you onboard. I’ve been pushing this for quite a while.

No E-Verify, no workee
No E-verify, no public assistance

No police state, no cattle cars, no national ID either.


3 posted on 11/26/2011 7:40:34 PM PST by umgud
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To: nomad

This may be the only workable solution. There is no way to find every illegal and it will be cost prohibitive to ship them all back. However, if the reason for them to be be here has been removed, they will leave on their own.


4 posted on 11/26/2011 7:41:00 PM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: muawiyah
An electronic system is the key. E-verify is a great start,along with an increased presence on the border it is very doable.
5 posted on 11/26/2011 7:41:10 PM PST by nomad
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To: nomad; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385; mkjessup; ...
RE :"C:Make it illegal to give any public money in support to illegals-welfare, food stamps, housing assistance, tuition assistance-ANY Government support."

Bingo!

6 posted on 11/26/2011 7:43:05 PM PST by sickoflibs (Cain :"My parents didn't raise me to beg the government for other peoples money")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks nomad. Ironic screen name.


7 posted on 11/26/2011 7:44:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: nomad

Alabama and Arizona have proven that illegals will self-deport. Once the illegals realize that we mean business, and the magnets that attract them are really gone, they will leave. Nobody will have to be rounded up. People who say that are just trying to muddy the issue because they want the illegals to be allowed to stay.


8 posted on 11/26/2011 7:45:30 PM PST by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: nomad

More than an increased presence ~ I want a double walled 16 foot high chain link fence along the border ON THE MEXICAN SIDE.


10 posted on 11/26/2011 7:46:07 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: umgud
I`ve been off line for some time-personal reasons, but I`ve supported the criminalization of the hiring of illegals for some time. To quote a certain ex pres “Dry up the swamp...” you do that with illegals by taking away the jobs.
11 posted on 11/26/2011 7:47:42 PM PST by nomad
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To: Dutch Boy
"There is no way to find every illegal and it will be cost prohibitive to ship them all back."

Another excuse maker. They are ILLEGAL and have no rights to NOTHING.
Put a small bounty on illegls and watch us get them out.

12 posted on 11/26/2011 7:48:21 PM PST by AGreatPer (Obama has NEVER given a speech where he did not lie!!!)
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To: Tzar

Agriculture is big business, they can handle such research on their own.


13 posted on 11/26/2011 7:48:30 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: nomad
..laws aren't the problem,ENFORCEMENT IS
14 posted on 11/26/2011 7:49:04 PM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: SunkenCiv

More ironic than you know,trust me!


15 posted on 11/26/2011 7:49:05 PM PST by nomad
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To: AGreatPer

...a tax free bounty and I could make a few thousand within a week


16 posted on 11/26/2011 7:50:25 PM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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What do you do with 2nd and 3rd Generation Illegals?

I know them, went to school with them, served in the Military with them, work with them ... not a single one that would Occupy anything or anyplace... (but for some strange reason they like Hillary Clinton... haven’t figured that one out yet)

TT


17 posted on 11/26/2011 7:53:08 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is real islam. Moderate islam is the trojan horse.)
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To: Dutch Boy
And it removes the cover for potential Wahhabi terrorist infiltrators coming over among the hoards. Some have said “you can`t tell the difference”, BULL $#*T! I can, just by looking I can tell the native features of Hispanics from the middle eastern ones. But there's a VERY good reason for that. Suffice it to say, we need to get the problem under control, NOW!
18 posted on 11/26/2011 7:53:45 PM PST by nomad
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To: nomad
will you call on your candidate of choice to:

A: Make ........

B: Impose .............

C:Make.............

And D: Make..............

Of what value would any of those actions be if they are not enforced. He!!, half of the immigration problems wouldn't even exist if the current laws were enforced.

Year after year the political criminals in Washington pass legislation to appease the masses with full knowledge it will not be enforced.

Wouldn't it be a lot easier to toss 535 + 1 out on their a** than to toss 40 million illegals? Lets start with the smaller workable number and work our way up. Oh hell, what am I talking about, to accomplish that we would need a national will and the only national will is the Last Will & Testament we seem to be allowing to be written for our nation by the Internationalists that occupy our highest offices.

19 posted on 11/26/2011 7:54:36 PM PST by varon (Allegiance to the Constitution, always. Allegiance to a party, never!)
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To: sickoflibs
And for those who appose the very concept of “spreadin the wealth”, it gives a double cover to a start in that direction, rolling back the welfare state.
20 posted on 11/26/2011 7:56:48 PM PST by nomad
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