Posted on 12/03/2011 2:52:32 PM PST by Iggles Phan
Put on your flame proof armor because it is comin’ in.
LOL
What’s the point? That the 70 weeks are gone? Now what? Thousand year reign? But, wouldn’t that be over, as well? So, now why are we still here and the purpose of life if not awaiting Christ’s return?
The author of this piece has about the worst systematic hermeneutical skills of anyone I’ve ever read.
“What’s the point? That the 70 weeks are gone? Now what? Thousand year reign?”
Answer: The New Testament of the New Covenant. We are to grow the Kingdom of God by the preaching of the Gospel.
“So, now why are we still here and the purpose of life if not awaiting Christ’s return?”
Answer: The purpose is as Saint Paul said, ‘to be more than conquerers’. We are to evangelize the entire world (i.e. conquer with His Gospel) until Christ’s return.
The scripture nowhere, ever, says that Christ's return is dependent on Christians "bringing in the kingdom."
Answer: The purpose is as Saint Paul said, ‘to be more than conquerers’. We are to evangelize the entire world (i.e. conquer with His Gospel) until Christ’s return.
Except that that phrase is taken completely out of context. In fact, when Paul said Christians are "more than conquerors," he was talking about the personal victory that each Christian has over persecution, death, etc, through the salvific power of Christ. This verse has absolutely nothing to do with "conquering the world for Christ." Indeed, the Scripture says that the only conquering taking place is at the point when Christ returns, and He does it Himself.
“The scripture nowhere, ever, says that Christ’s return is dependent on Christians “bringing in the kingdom.””
Challenge:
Where did I ever say this was a dependency?
Are you deliberately trying to put words into my mouth, or are you reading too much in to my reply?
This is a joke, right? I mean, it’s gotta be a joke because it certainly isn’t truth.
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So, you’re an amillenialist.
“bringing in the kingdom”
Christians can’t “bring in” something that is here already.
Jesus is reigning over His Kingdom this very momment.
hopefully everyone reading this has been delivered from the dominion of darkness and been transferred to THE KINGDOM OF HIS BELOVED SON.
see Colossians 1:11-14.
Dominionist Heresy.
My FRiends...Daniel was written by Jews for Jews. I suggest you learn the Jewish view if you want the proper exegesis of Daniel.
My FRiends, Daniel was written by Israel for Israel. I suggest you learn who Israel is if you want the proper exegesis of Daniel.
Israel = heirs to the promise made to Abraham.
Galatians 3:29
and if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to the promise.
“Jesus is reigning over His Kingdom this very momment.”
Answer:
I agree.
And it is growing every day with every new believer. Thanks.
“and if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to the promise.”
Answer:
I couldn’t agree more. Thanks.
you are a great addition to FR.
please ignore all these “nooobie” comments from the previous thread.
dispensationalism is just another 19th century false teaching, up there with SDA, JW’S, Mormons, Christian Science, etc.
“dispensationalism is just another 19th century false teaching, up there with SDA, JW’S, Mormons, Christian Science, etc.”
Answer:
It is interesting to note also that these 19th century teachings (SDA, JW’S, Mormons, Christian Science, etc.) are ALL Dispensationalist in some form or another.
You see, when Darby opened the door in subverting the New Testament by instituting ‘Dispensations’ that are not even mentioned in the Bible, a whole cottage industry of ‘New-Found’ interpretations soon followed.
These cults are all based on carnalism, not the Gospel of Grace.
Thank you very much indeed for your encouragement too!
For a long time I didn’t really “get” the problems with dispensationalism. I thought dispensationalism led people to unhealthy obsessions about end-times events and was wrong but mostly harmless. But after reading more about it and about historical Christianity, I see the dangers of dispensationalism. It is a type of Gnosticism, with its view that the Bible is a book of secret codes that only a “special” person can decode. It uses numerology, which is a backdoor to occultism. It teaches that Christ is not sufficient, because sacrifices will be done again in the millennial temple to atone for sins. This insufficient Christ is not the Christ of the Bible.
I believe it teaches that Israel will rebuild the temple and begin sacrificing, not that Christ is insufficient or those sacrifices are in any way efficacious.
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