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To: discostu
You led off with a really bad example there, given that Fiats are generally more reliable and comfortable than Fords and Chevys. Cheaper and better. Kind of proved my point actually.

I mentioned the whole pretending to be Windows thing. But as I said, good luck getting support. You call up your software guys with a problem, they ask what your system is, you say VMware, they say “we never tested that”, and now you’re basically on your own.

Windows is plenty user friendly. I know all the Mac weenies insist it isn’t, but the user base proves them wrong. Networking is absolutely seemless in Windows. Plug in the network and go. Hardly ever have to install drivers, and even then, install the drivers, plug in and go. The only time it’s ever rough is if the domain itself has been setup funky, and that’s the admins fault.

Not an IT consultant. QA engineer, 16 years. I’ve worked professionally with every version of Windows since 3.11, and dealt with plenty of not-Windows. Most of the not-Windows OSes are overrated. I remember System 7, that was the day I realized Mac-weenies are full of it. Horrible OS, my wife could crash it because she typed too fast, menus were in persistent (talk about not user friendly), and the print buffer on the big Apple printers (don’t try using something else) was like half a page AND the print progress dialog was system modal. They’ve come a long way since then, OSX is pretty nice, but it’s not nice enough for the price.

Fiats are more reliable and comfortable than Ford or Chevy ! roflmao !

In my forty-five years of experience with Virtual Machines
all op/sys and applications run better in a virtual environment
than on hardware.

Windows is pretty user-friendly and the network is seamless?
Compared to a real operating system ?

You stated that you don't know any op/sys except Windows.

Mac OS system 7; that was ten to twenty years ago. ROFLMAO !
OS X(Unix) has been around for over ten years

Working on Windows is guaranteed job security as it is crap code.


54 posted on 12/22/2011 10:32:16 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

I spent 10 minutes test driving a Ford and needed 6 advil to get my back in shape again. There are medieval torture devices more comfortable. As for Chevy, there’s a reason they needed a bailout, they have made a vehicle that wasn’t a giant POS for 30 years. Fiats are bad cars but Ford and Chevy are pathetic horrible cars.

For VMs it all depends on how tightly tied the software is to the hardware layer. The more the software wants to talk to the hardware the worse it’ll run on VM. The problem with Windows apps on VM is Windows really likes to talk to the hardware. Things get twitchy. And of course there’s the overhead problem. If you’re going to run exclusively Windows app (like 90% of the users out there) there’s simply no reason to suck up the overhead of running Mac OS AND the VM layer AND Windows when you can just run Windows. Not to mention the cost, why buy 2 OSes and a virtualization layer when you can just buy 1 OS. The whole setup is needlessly complicated, fine for nerds, stupid and pointless for anybody else.

Windows IS user friendly and the networking IS seamless. Are there other OSes that maybe do it better? Yes. Well not really the network. Since they defaulted to TCIP and DHCP (NT4) Windows networking is plug and go, you can’t get more seamless than that, pretty much all the OSes tie on that one. As for user friendly yeah other might do it better, though really at this point it’s all a matter of what you’re used to. Anybody that’s used Windows more than a month knows it well enough to do anything they need to. Yeah maybe they would have learned OSX is 22 days, immaterial at this point.

I never stated I didn’t know any OS other than Windows. Actually exactly the opposite. Try to actually read what was actually written instead of just slapping it on your clipboard. I’ve dealt with many many OSes, Mac, ‘Nix, VMS, DOS, the old Basic environment stuff that used to run Apples and Commies and Trash80s. I’ve spent the most time with Windows because that’s where I get paid to live, and frankly it’s an easy OS, but give me 10 minutes to poke around and I can handle any thing out there so long as it’s English.

System 7 was 15 years ago. And the Mac weenies said the same things about it then they say about) OSX now. It was a bunch of lies then, 7 sucked. Now it’s vaguely true, OSX is pretty solid. Not solid enough for the cost though.

Working on software is guaranteed work. Most folks code is crap.


55 posted on 12/22/2011 11:03:52 AM PST by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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