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1 posted on 12/27/2011 7:38:45 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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For any Microsoft fans out there ( and here in FR, I think they are very few ), next year is going to be the make or break moment for Windows Phone. The long awaited Nokia Lumia 800, which is an excellent device, will finally arrive in the U.S. With it comes all of Nokia’s marketing might that Kindel thinks Windows Phone is missing. If Nokia delivers a dud, it could easily take Windows Phone down with it.

(And for those software developers out there, it might not be worth your precious time mastering how to program for the Windows Phone ).


2 posted on 12/27/2011 7:41:06 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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too much fragmentation that will eventually drive end users nuts

Wishful thinking from an Apple zombie. Anyone who gives a damn about 'fragmentation' can simply flash a custom rom.

IMHO, the biggest problem Windows Phone has is that it's from the same company who released the horrendous Windows Mobile. I used that garbage on HTC phones for a couple of years. It was so traumatizing that I'd actually be afraid to rely on any device running Windows.

5 posted on 12/27/2011 7:51:20 AM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (Perry's idea of border control: Use both hands to welcome the illegals right in.)
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simply because its open platform allows manufacturers and carriers to get away with whatever they want, while cranking out dozens of devices a year.

Sounds like he doesn't like the short development cycle that open platforms offer.

I disagree with him that the open cycle will degrade the customer experience.

The strong will survive, and the weak will die out. The market and the customers will determine which survives.

Meanwhile innovation occurs about 10 times faster on the open system, than on the closed system.

Sucks to be an old, slow dinosaur when those pesky mammals can outbreed you. ;)

/johnny

7 posted on 12/27/2011 7:54:24 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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Charlie Kindel...

With a name like that, he should be working for Amazon.


11 posted on 12/27/2011 7:57:54 AM PST by Rio
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My android tablet sucks in all the right ways. My kids love it as an Angry Birds platform. I love it because my kids love it. It operates well with my wife’s android phone (I refuse to use a cell phone). Top that, MicroSwift.


13 posted on 12/27/2011 7:59:43 AM PST by Timaeus (I will vote for any GOP nominee but Willard Mitt Romney)
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I have one, and it works perfectly fine. My wife’s iPhone is a total pain to operate compared to it.

As far as this “failing” nonsense, it comes across as the typical “clear the field of options” garbage that is the hallmark of tech enthusiast these days. Have an iPhone? Well everything else is crap and “failing”. Android? Same attitude.

As if somehow a platform has to sell 100,000,000 units in a year to be a credible platform. Microsoft has created a great OS that has received lots of developer attention and has some of the highest satisfactory rates out there. Far higher than Android, and saw in one case, better than iOS.

They are doing better in their infant years than Android. Most people dont remember the scorn heaped on the G1 and other early Android phones for bugginess, ugly hardware, and “fragmentation”.


14 posted on 12/27/2011 8:00:17 AM PST by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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I bought a windows7 phone earlier this year and every morning it was frozen.
I went through three before I just settled on the 4g Samsung.

The Win7 phone is junk from my experience.

15 posted on 12/27/2011 8:01:32 AM PST by MaxMax
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Could it be, that when all things are considered - that MSFT simply cannot compete with other companies like it once could?

Back in the day (70-80’s) MSFT did very well, standing up and innovating and competing. It won the Office suite fair and square.

But, since then:
Kin1 and Kin2- released, hyped, failed and dumped.
Zune - released, hyped, failed and dumped
Courier - released, hyped, failed and dumped

Now, do you really want to sign a 2 year contract with a company that has established a pattern of not supporting their products, if they are not immediately successful in the market?


17 posted on 12/27/2011 8:02:02 AM PST by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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I think that 90% of it has to do with the fact that Microsoft is unreliable, in terms of supporting their products.

How can I justify spending, as much as, $600 for a phone and have Microsoft pull out of the market?

If Microsoft is going to gain traction, they are going to have to think in terms of decades and stick with it, if they want to improve their marketability to the point of profitability.


21 posted on 12/27/2011 8:06:47 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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One thing that would probably help Microsoft is, if they did what every other phone manufacturer did and have sneak leaks of their phones, even the ones that are still in the lab.

You can’t tell me that every picture of phones, Android and Iphone and BB, that are still due to come out a year from now, are all accidents.


30 posted on 12/27/2011 8:34:33 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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Nokia's 'last-ditch' Windows phone stumbles - sales crawl behind Androids, iPhones, BlackBerries

They couldn't print it if it weren't true

33 posted on 12/27/2011 9:05:24 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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I wonder how much longer Microsoft will be around as we know it, they are getting creamed by Apple and Google on the newer technologies, yes their legacy products should help them stay afloat for the near future, but beyond that....


34 posted on 12/27/2011 9:07:38 AM PST by dfwgator
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Can I boil this down to say Windows phone is failing because it’s too good for us?


40 posted on 12/27/2011 9:21:15 AM PST by Cyber Liberty ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." --Winston Churchill)
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Because it sucks in performance and aesthetics.

It is well thought out to about 70% and then they slap the thing together.

Microsoft still thinks it dominates. Corporate Culture.

Google still thinks it’s markets are ripe for innovation. Corporate Culture


41 posted on 12/27/2011 9:23:44 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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I don’t know, life was happeier and people more free when they just shut the hell up and answered the phone when they were at home.

We have a life of ignorant and senseless chatter now.


61 posted on 12/28/2011 10:01:56 AM PST by dforest
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