Who would the Dems rather run against in the election, Romney or Santorum? (Vanity)

Self | 1/4/2012 | Self

[Signalman]

Just a question I'm throwing out for the FR gang. When I watched Fox News last night, it was humorous to see the two Democratic pundits, Joe Trippi and Kirsten Powers so obviously minimize Romney's results while falling over themselves boosting Santorum. I almost had the impression that these two partisan Democrats (especially Powers who's as transparent as they come) were a cheering squad for Santorum and can't wait to run against him. Or at least they believe he will be an easy opponent to beat.

Powers even let her guard down a moment and implied that the Dems' strategy against Santorum would be to paint him as a far-right religious zealot.

Anyway, that's my impression.

Disclosure. I'm a Rick Perry supporter.

[OrangeHoof]

I’ve been praying for godly men of firm principles to rise up and take control of the House and the Senate and also the White House and then I will trust God to give those people the money and support to take back our nation.

I don’t really care who God chooses. I just want it to be His choice. So, if it’s Perry or Santorum or Gingrich or Cain, it makes no difference to me. I have my preferences but I don’t know the future the way God does. I do know Obama is only His instrument of punishment, not of mercy or glory. This is what I am praying for and I will leave the details up to Him.

[clamper1797]

Sure Brer Rabbit

[laweeks]

They’d rather run against Romney. First tipoff? They love Romney.

1. They’ll pretend that he’s not that bad . . . just like they did with McLame.
2. Then when he gets on the ticket, all hell will break loose.
3. They’ve had years to go through his garbage cans, toilets, and . . . don’t forget . . . the Hitlary stolen FBI files, from which Lord only knows what garbage that beast has had on him for all these years.
4. The RINOs just love this libtard and all his mandatory health care crap and, don’t forget, his unadulterated love affair with all things homosexual.

He’s a stinking democrat and should get the hell out of our party.

[goseminoles]

If Santorum comes out with a big name running mate, he may be ok.

[Utmost Certainty]

Gingrich doesn't support global warming; see testimony here. It's also idiotic to presume that electability is contingent on how consistently one stays married to the same person.

I think you overrate the significance of the evangelical voting bloc.

[bmwcyle]

Who does the media always says who is winning? Then vote for the other person.

[skeeter]

I’m more concerned with who I want to run against Obama.

[Utmost Certainty]

Rick Santorum

- Voted for Perscription Drug Benefit mandate.
- Endorsed Arlen Spector.
- Agreed with Newt on illegal immigration when Newt mentioned his limited amnesty.
- Voted for the Gun Manufacturers Liability Act of 1994 prohibiting the sale of hand guns with safety devices.
- Voted against Death Tax repeal in 2003.
- Voted for the federal regulation of farms requiring that large farms construct animal waste treatment facilities.
- Voted for Bushs' No Child Left Behind and other national testing initiatives.
- Voted for afirmative action (later voted against it).
- Voted for Minimum Wage increases (Flipped on this several times).
- Voted for federal funds for military operations in Bosnia.
- Voted to cut Trident II D-5 missles several times.
- Voted against the elimiation of the National Endowment for the Arts funding numerous times.
- Voted to seize private property to designate 7 million acres of Cal. desert as a wilderness area.
- Voted against the first amendment and for lobbying restrictions and regulations.
- Voted for the Motor Voter law several times.
- Voted to limit Striker Replacement of union thugs.
- Voted on the FY 94 Clinton budget, which contained at that time the largest tax increase in U.S. history.
- Voted against SDI several times.
- Voted against Hunter amendment that sought to require the Defense Department to ask individuals entering the armed forces if they are homosexuals. (He later switched to the more conservative position on this).
- Voted against school choice early in his career. (He later switched to the more conservative position on this).
- Voted against both the 1991, 1992 spending freeze and voted for numerous large Bush II Budgets.
- Voted for tabaco tax increases (1998).
- Voted against the exemption of banks with assets of less than $250 million from the 1977 Community Reinvestment Act (1998).
- Voted for the Chemical Weapons Treaty of 1997 that the ACU said, "violated U.S. constitutional protections against unreasonable search and seizure, ceded U.S. national sovereignty to international agencies, and threatened U.S. defense forces".
- Voted for Kassenbaum amendment to the Ryan White Reauthorization which allowed for funds to be used to promote homosexuality or intravenous drug use.
- Voted for the 2005 highway bill that included thousands of wasteful earmarks, including the Bridge to Nowhere.
- Voted to continue funding the Bridge to Nowhere rather than send the money to rebuild New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.
- Sponsored a bill to extend milk subsidies in 2005, which he claimed he did to “save countless Pennsylvania dairy farmers.”

Some additional points from here:

- A prolific supporter of earmarks, having requested billions of dollars for pork projects in Pennsylvania while he was in Congress. Perhaps recognizing the sign of the times, Santorum finally reversed his position in 2010, saying that he was opposed to them , but one must remain skeptical about his sincerity. As recently as 2009, he said, “I’m not saying necessarily earmarks are bad. I have had a lot of earmarks. In fact, I’m very proud of all the earmarks I’ve put in bills. I’ll defend earmarks.”

- An examination of his scores in the NTU rating of Congress shows that Santorum compiled a very strong record on taxes and spending in the first four years of each of his two Senate terms, then a sharp swing to below the Senate Republican average in the Congress before his reelection campaign.

- In the 2003-2004 session of Congress, Santorum sponsored or cosponsored 51 bills to increase spending, and failed to sponsor or co-sponsor even one spending cut proposal. In his last Congress (2005-2006), he had one of the biggest spending agendas of any Republican -- sponsoring more spending increases than Republicans Lisa Murkowski, Lincoln Chafee and Thad Cochran or Democrats Herb Kohl, Evan Bayh and Ron Wyden.

- Santorum also supported raising congressional pay at least three times, in 2001, 2002, and 2003.

- He voted NO on raising the minimum wage in 1995 and 2005. But on the same day he voted NO in 2005, he sponsored an amendment that would increase the minimum wage, which he later boasted about to skeptical voters in a 2006 campaign brochure he released called “50 Things You Didn’t Know About Rick Santorum.”

- In the same “50 Things” campaign brochure, Santorum boasts about sponsoring a bill to regulate “price gouging and unfair pricing by the big oil companies.” This contradicts his opposition to a “windfall profits tax” that Democrats tried to impose on oil companies in 2005. He also voted YES on Sarbanes-Oxley, which was an overreaching bill that tried to tighten accounting regulations following the Enron scandal.

Also see: Rick Santorum the Pro-Life Statist

[elvis-lives]

I think they fear Romney’s money, but for that reason, they have been preparing for him for years now. I think if it’s Romney they have a war strategy built from extensive historic research on his every flaw.

Santorum could have the benefit of surprise but he’ll have ot raise big bucks.

[Calliecat]

That pretty well sums it up in my mind.

[HighlyOpinionated]

ANY Republican or even the Antiestablishmentarian will suit the likes of the Gramsci-Alinskyites just fine.

They’re not running against a PERSON, they are running against a perceived IDEOLOGY.

They are going to poison the GOP waters no matter who runs. And they’ll Occupy Ron Paul like they did in Iowa.

If the GOP had any gonads they’d drop Ron Paul and distance themselves from him. They do not ‘need’ him for votes in the House and he’s an obnoxious prick, as are most of his antiestablishmentarian supporters.

[Buckeye Battle Cry]

They’ve been planning on Romney all along. The “Occupy Wall Street” street theatre was cooked up by Obama as a perfect vehicle to motivate the youth vote against the Wall Street Insider - Mitt Romney. Plus, Romney as the nominee means an unmotivated base.

Santorum, on the other hand, would mean a motivated conservative base and Obama genuinely fears a fired-up conservative base on election day.

[cripplecreek]

Santorum could have the benefit of surprise but he’ll have to raise big bucks.

True enough but money tends to go to the leader no matter who it is. Santorum's website crashed under the weight of new traffic this morning and his twitter following has grown by leaps and bounds.

[HapaxLegamenon]

Blabbermouth-Schultz was labeling Romney in the same vain last night. We should be very careful at trying to pick a candidate that God-haters and vampires like.

[Buckeye Battle Cry]

Utmost, who are you supporting?

[BenKenobi]

“Gingrich doesn’t support global warming”

Yes, he does. He has supported anthropogenic global warming in the past and his voting record confirms it.

“It’s also idiotic to presume that electability is contingent on how consistently one stays married to the same person.”

Apparently it does matter to the folks in Iowa who were not impressed.

“I think you overrate the significance of the evangelical voting bloc.”

Given that they seem to have fallen in with Santorum in Iowa (he won 62 of 99 counties), and almost all the rural ones, yes, that’s not good news for Newt.

What that tells me is that the voting bloc he needs to win and do well in the south is breaking for Santorum, not him.

Gingrich failed to win a single county. The ones that he did beat out Santorum were 5, of which all were in eastern Iowa. Again, Gingrich won in less conservative areas of the state over Santorum. This tells me that conservative folks when given the choice of Santorum vs Gingrich were coming out in support of Santorum. This is bad news for Newt.

Newt’s not going to win the Catholic vote, and Santorum did better among Catholics. Newt has to win the evangelical vote if he hopes to take the nomination.

[JSDude1]

Romney; simply because he would depress the conservative vote (rather than rally it-which Santorum has a chance to do)!

~J.S.

[Utmost Certainty]

It should say in my tagline.

Was a Cain supporter, then went over to Newt after Cain dropped out.

I can’t stand Rick Santorum because I think he’s a duplicitous weasel, and I don’t want Mitt Romney because he’s a RINO supreme. So, if it comes down to either one of those, I’ll be sitting 2012 out.

[BenKenobi]

Shall I pull out Newt’s record?

Supported the bailouts.
Supported Medicare part D.
Supported the individual mandate.
Supported cap and trade.
Supported increased funding to the department of education.

[Pinkbell]

You show up on every thread to bash Santorum. Obviously you aren’t very confident in Gingrich if you feel the need to continue to rip Santorum every chance you can.