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To: goodwithagun

The author takes a lot of liberties with Christians, and basically lumps us all in with the Westboro baptist crowd. Frankly, I don’t care if anyone is gay - that is their choice.
I’m just sick and tired of having their lifestyle stuffed in my face, 24/7.

Guess that makes me “intolerant”.


11 posted on 01/14/2012 5:22:54 AM PST by mkleesma (`Call to me, and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things you do not know.')
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To: mkleesma

Homosexuality is a disease/disorder in the same way that alcoholism and drug addition are. Yet do we go around praising the drug addict in the same way the media wants us to glorify the homosexual lifestyle? I will not condemn an individual for the way he enjoys sex but I will condemn the State for the way they are pushing this degeneracy on our society.


13 posted on 01/14/2012 5:41:12 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: mkleesma
"I’m just sick and tired of having their lifestyle stuffed in my face, 24/7."

That's how I feel too, but it goes beyond that. Not only are we bombarded, show anything but open acceptance and WE are the problem. Well I'm all done with the PC game. "Homophobe" means no more than "racist" to me.

26 posted on 01/14/2012 6:04:10 AM PST by Mich Patriot (I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself. Ronald Reagan)
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To: mkleesma

“I’m just sick and tired of having their lifestyle stuffed in my face, 24/7.

Guess that makes me “intolerant”.”

Same here. I do a fair amount of work with gays and lesbians. What I have often found is that they carry a lot of inner guilt for the contradiction between their lifestyle and and what they learned as a child. Thus they try to justify their behavior by self measuring their ability to convince others that their lifestyle is acceptable. That’s why they become activists. A person who is comfortable with themselves has no need to convince others that they are correct.

I had one case where a young woman attended catholic school K-12 and had a very controlling mother. So controlling that the daughter could never form a self identity and was locked in a strong controlling dependency relationship. When the daughter attended the college of her mother’s choice and her mother’s selection of major, she was finally away from her mother’s strong control.

She had a lesbian affair, went home and told her mother she was a lesbian. The mother screamed, “Then you are no daughter of mine!” The daughter had instantaneously achieved the separation from her mother she had been trying to obtain since age 12.

The daughter, having no sense of self identity was very weak and thus needed a peer group in order to find her identity. There are few peer groups as strong and self validating as the gay and lesbian communities. They congratulated her on coming out and being one of them. She became a lesbian activist, i.e. if she could convince others it was ok, then she could believe it too.

Ten years later, when she came to me she was emotionally empty, drained and suicidal. (And still fighting the battle with her mother) By pointing out her inner conflict and why she was motivated in the behavior pattern she chose, it empowered her to find who she really was. I did not judge her, but I pointed out that she was judging herself. I did not have to condemn her behavior, she was already beating herself up pretty bad. I have found the same thing in people who cheat on their spouses. Guilt can be far more torture than a penetrating knife.


47 posted on 01/14/2012 7:46:37 AM PST by tired&retired
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