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To: tired&retired
I tend to give more credibility to the words of Jesus than those of Paul . . . Let those without sin cast the first stone

What Jesus said just after the words you referred to strikes me as central; John 8:

And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

"Go and sin no more". 1. With these simple words, Jesus confirms that sexual conduct outside marriage can be a sin. 2. Tied to that recognition, Jesus is offering forgiveness for past sins. 3. Jesus is following the forgiveness he offers with a command to sin no more. I am with you completely in deferring to Jesus for guidance on these issues. What lesson do you take away from the whole story, if it's different from what I see?

53 posted on 01/14/2012 8:08:59 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Pollster1

“that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.”

And I always thought His next words were... “Knock it off Mom! Put those stones down!”


58 posted on 01/14/2012 8:26:04 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: Pollster1

“What lesson do you take away from the whole story, if it’s different from what I see?”

We are in agreement. That is why Jesus said.. John 10 I think... “I have not come to judge, but to save.”


59 posted on 01/14/2012 8:28:34 AM PST by tired&retired
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I have found that prayers are so powerful that they can remove those same sins from people’s souls instantly, just like laser beams.. Often they will open their eyes and say that it feels as though my hand is in their physical body, even though I am many feet away.

Sins are real, physical tangible objects and I feel them just as you would feel a chair in your office. They have mass, density, energy.... and hurt when I walk into them. They are stored in the soul field around the body and anchored in the physical body.

While it is easy to do this for others, it is very humbling in that I could not do it with my own cancer. It was a much needed ego-ectomy to have surgery. I knew what sin had manifested the illness, and where it was stored in my soul, but could not prayerfully heal it. God’s unconditional Love is there for us all the time, no matter what we have done. It is up to us to redeem ourselves and accept it. When we forgive others who have sinned against us, we need to include ourselves in the list.

As I entered surgery, I felt like saying “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani.” That pain was greater than the knife wounds or cancer.


62 posted on 01/14/2012 8:52:11 AM PST by tired&retired
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