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MLK Marxist quote
1.16.2012

Posted on 01/16/2012 8:17:00 AM PST by libh8er

“We must rapidly begin the shift from a ‘thing-oriented’ society to a ‘person-oriented’ society. When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, materialism, and militarism are incapable of being conquered.”

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.


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1 posted on 01/16/2012 8:17:12 AM PST by libh8er
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To: libh8er

Actually, that would be a good “religous” statement from the pulpit. It would also be a good “social” statement. It’s a terrible “political” statement.

So much of what socialism and our modern US government does can be argued to have been done by well meaning people, but it is only good when people choose to do it of their own free will. When the government requires it via the power of the gun and taxes, it turns a good thing into an evil thing.


2 posted on 01/16/2012 8:26:12 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: libh8er

What’s Marxist about placing value on human capital? To the extent human capital is inefficiently utilized, the ability of a society to produce “things” will be diminished.


3 posted on 01/16/2012 8:27:23 AM PST by fso301
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To: libh8er

I am no fan of MLK, but I would not read too much into this quote. Consider at the time he spoke he was trying to get his agenda into the national focus. He was trying to make sure that it was time for civil rights to be considered on the national stage when it had been ignored for so long.

Some of his rhetoric is understandable in that it reflected frustration with the status quo of the racial injustices which existed at the time.


4 posted on 01/16/2012 8:29:31 AM PST by the_Watchman
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To: libh8er

I’d like to know more about this quote - and where and when he supposedly said it. It doesn’t sound like it came from that era and is more likely revised by the Marxists that promote him today.


5 posted on 01/16/2012 8:31:28 AM PST by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: libh8er
Here in Houston, the Black Folk can't come together, even for MLK Day.

There have been not one but two MLK Parades here in Houston for many years because there are two different feuding MLK organizations.

6 posted on 01/16/2012 8:40:03 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: demkicker

I was thinking the same thing, computers?


7 posted on 01/16/2012 8:42:26 AM PST by republicangel
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To: libh8er
I don't have much of a problem with this quote.
The problem with leftists is when they confuse church or "society" with government, and thereby want to enforce their orthodoxy through government.
8 posted on 01/16/2012 8:49:48 AM PST by Nevermore (...just a typical cracker, clinging to my Constitutional rights...)
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To: libh8er

Anti-materialism isn’t a Marxist trait, it’s a Christian trait. Hebrews 13:5 and 1 John 2:16 comes to mind.


9 posted on 01/16/2012 8:49:48 AM PST by NorthStarStateConservative (The Democrat Party: Making Black People Slaves in Some Form Or The Other Since the 1850s)
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To: Nevermore
The problem with leftists is when they confuse church or "society" with government, and thereby want to enforce their orthodoxy through government.

That's also the problem with some rightists when the subject is, say, marijuana.

10 posted on 01/16/2012 8:56:09 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: TexasCajun
MLK Jr. is a very lucrative franchise and it is no surprise the different factions are competing to own the brand.


11 posted on 01/16/2012 8:56:18 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Nevermore

Bingo. Anti-materialism is an admirable personality trait. However, running a government based on feel good utopianism is only going to result in people’s rights being impeded upon.


12 posted on 01/16/2012 8:57:49 AM PST by NorthStarStateConservative (The Democrat Party: Making Black People Slaves in Some Form Or The Other Since the 1850s)
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To: Nevermore

Yeah, that quote is fine on its face, though it does give suspicion against the context. Yes, exalting materialism over humanity is reprehensible, but it’s the anti-captialist strawman argument imputing a “products over people” accusation where it does not apply.

I’m skimming the MLK “Vietnam” speech, and while the gist is objectionable I can’t find a succinct quote therein encapsulating the point.


13 posted on 01/16/2012 9:03:07 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: libh8er
When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, materialism, and militarism are incapable of being conquered.”

In a free society the long run benefits for the economy as a whole of more and better machines are greater number of goods, better quality of goods, lower prices of goods, with a change in the pattern of employment rather than less employment.

The benefits of the profit motive are the providing of powerful incentives for the steady expansion and improvement of production, and, at the same time, operates to keep the relative size of all the various industries and occupations in proper balance.

Private property and private property rights provide greater incentives to capital accumulation, rising productivity of labor, and rising real wages.

All of the are beneficial to people by raising the standard of living of the average worker and increasing general economic progress. Thus it is a contradiction to say that they are more important than people.

14 posted on 01/16/2012 9:37:46 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

I take it you are a libertarian.

All their arguments boil down to “I want to smoke dope.”


15 posted on 01/16/2012 9:57:05 AM PST by Dan(9698)
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16 posted on 01/16/2012 10:27:18 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: the_Watchman

I wonder if we will ever see it ‘acceptable’, and anyone courageous enough if it is, to bring the discussion and consideration of REVERSE racism realities to the forefront, and if so, what would that ‘forefront’ consist of. Oh well, maybe after the next revolution.....


17 posted on 01/16/2012 10:33:11 AM PST by arrdon (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.)
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To: Dan(9698)
[Nevermore:] The problem with leftists is when they confuse church or "society" with government, and thereby want to enforce their orthodoxy through government.

That's also the problem with some rightists when the subject is, say, marijuana.

I take it you are a libertarian.

All their arguments boil down to “I want to smoke dope.”

If that's true, then I'm definitely not a libertarian - I don't want to smoke dope, and I don't want government to tell people how to use their money or what to put in their bodies.

18 posted on 01/16/2012 11:30:23 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
I'm a conservative, and I do smoke pot. Conservatively. ;^)

I have difficulty with the moral zealotry that goes rabid for a plant with innocuous side effects while corporations support the pumping of alcohol, nicotine, and elective pharmaceuticals into the national bloodstream; the resulting holocaust somehow acceptable losses in our media consciousness.

However. I shall not bitch to the Captain that the smoking lamp is not lit, while the national Ship is presently SINKING.

Man the pumps! (And pass the fatty!)

19 posted on 01/16/2012 12:08:50 PM PST by AnTiw1
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