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How India brought down the US’ supersonic man
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Posted on 01/19/2012 4:23:21 AM PST by MBT ARJUN

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To: AppyPappy
The Indians were in bed with the Soviets.

Yes, but for the purposes of this biased crap article, the Soviets (Evil Empire) are referred to as Russians.

21 posted on 01/19/2012 5:41:21 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Zhang Fei

The pro-Russian tilt arose after India was denied American warplanes at the time (and America’s pro-Pakistan tilt was already present), but I’ve never heard of any proposed Indian attack on Diego Garcia. Any links on the subject?


22 posted on 01/19/2012 5:43:56 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Well it depend on you .Everyone look for their own interest 1st no matter an american or indian ..


23 posted on 01/19/2012 5:43:57 AM PST by MBT ARJUN
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To: AppyPappy

And Pakistan was and is an apartheid state where non-muslims are freely attacked and even enslaved.

Siding with Pakistan is like siding with the Third Reich.


24 posted on 01/19/2012 5:45:44 AM PST by LastNorwegian
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To: James C. Bennett
On top of that, the Russians quite early on shored up support for India in booting out French and Portuguese territorial claims from within her territory - especially Goa.

Goa wasn't Indian territory. When the Indians invaded, the Goanese fled in droves. The Indian position on Japanese war criminals was that the Japanese perpetrators of Bataan and various other atrocities against Americans and Europeans in the Far East were being railroaded. Indian leaders spent much of the war snuggling up to Imperial Japan, and Mahatma Gandhi was a pretty big fan of Nazi Germany.

25 posted on 01/19/2012 5:45:51 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: MBT ARJUN
How on earth would it depend on me?!

Thanks for the heads up.

26 posted on 01/19/2012 5:46:23 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: James C. Bennett

Exactly friend ,US tillted towards pakis for short term gain but lost in long run even till date they are paying for that.
And Indo-Russia recently celebrated 60years of friendship with Nuke submarine leased for 10years to India..


27 posted on 01/19/2012 5:48:40 AM PST by MBT ARJUN
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To: MBT ARJUN
Fascinating. I'm a fan of Yeager but if you read his autobiography you realize that his primary motivation is being a bon-vivant, always seeking ways to exploit his duties to enjoy himself.

Yeager: "I stayed in Pakistan for more than a year after the war ended and it was one of the most enjoyable times of my life. From 1972 until we came home in March of 1973, I spent most of my time flying in an F-86 Sabre with the Pakistani fighter outfits. I dearly loved the Sabre, almost as much as I loved the P-51."

28 posted on 01/19/2012 5:48:40 AM PST by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: James C. Bennett

Exactly friend ,US tillted towards pakis for short term gain but lost in long run even till date they are paying for that.
And Indo-Russia recently celebrated 60years of friendship with Nuke submarine leased for 10years to India..


29 posted on 01/19/2012 5:50:25 AM PST by MBT ARJUN
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To: LastNorwegian
And Pakistan was and is an apartheid state where non-muslims are freely attacked and even enslaved. Siding with Pakistan is like siding with the Third Reich.

But it wasn't. That started very gradually in the 1970's, beginning with alcohol prohibition for Muslims in mid-1970. It's only in the 2000 time frame that Taliban-like incidents have started to occur on a regular basis.

30 posted on 01/19/2012 5:52:25 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei
Goa wasn't Indian territory. When the Indians invaded, the Goanese fled in droves.

Goa was lost to the Portuguese when they fired on Goan protesters demanding their exit from the territory.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2ZMrsIlnlo

Indian leaders spent much of the war snuggling up to Imperial Japan, and Mahatma Gandhi was a pretty big fan of Nazi Germany.

"Gandhi initially favoured offering "non-violent moral support" to the British effort when World War II broke out in 1939, but the Congressional leaders were offended by the unilateral inclusion of India in the war without consultation of the people's representatives. All Congressmen resigned from office. After long deliberations, Gandhi declared that India could not be party to a war ostensibly being fought for democratic freedom while that freedom was denied to India itself. As the war progressed, Gandhi intensified his demand for independence, calling for the British to Quit India in a speech at Gowalia Tank Maidan. This was Gandhi's and the Congress Party's most definitive revolt aimed at securing the British exit from India."

"Gandhi was criticised by some Congress party members and other Indian political groups, both pro-British and anti-British. Some felt that not supporting Britain more in its struggle against Nazi Germany was unethical. Others felt that Gandhi's refusal for India to participate in the war was insufficient and more direct opposition should be taken, while Britain fought against Nazism yet continued to contradict itself by refusing to grant India Independence. Quit India became the most forceful movement in the history of the struggle, with mass arrests and violence on an unprecedented scale."

Patel: A Life Gandhi, Rajmohan (1990).

31 posted on 01/19/2012 6:04:52 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: James C. Bennett
I’ve never heard of any proposed Indian attack on Diego Garcia. Any links on the subject?

Not an essay as such - just commentary by various Indian servicemen on military forums. I don't remember the specific forum, but the keywords to search on would be India, Indira Gandhi, Diego Garcia and invasion or attack.

My sense about Indians is that they are intensely anti-American, even though they may mask that lifelong indoctrination in order to get along. Until the past decade or so, Pakistanis used to be pretty pro-American. That sentiment is probably at least part of what made American policymakers side with Pakistan for most of the post-WWII period. Why make nice with a country that hates your guts? And Pakistan's fervid anti-Americanism in recent years, far exceeding India's antagonism towards the US, is partly the reason for our tilt towards India.

32 posted on 01/19/2012 6:05:28 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: James C. Bennett

That excerpt just confirms Churchill’s low opinion of Gandhi. What. A. Scumbag.


33 posted on 01/19/2012 6:08:36 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

No.

Non-muslims were being killed and driven out from the start.
Non-muslim girls were being kidnapped and forcibly married since the inception of that state (and probably even longer).

Moderate islam has always been just a fantasy. The only thing that has changed is that as western influence wanes islam comes out of hiding and cities fall back into line with the rest of the country.


34 posted on 01/19/2012 6:09:24 AM PST by LastNorwegian
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To: Zhang Fei
And Pakistan was and is an apartheid state where non-muslims are freely attacked and even enslaved. Siding with Pakistan is like siding with the Third Reich.

Actually, this is true. Pakistan was lost when Jinnah's apparent moderation died with him in 1948. Nonetheless, no country once declared 'Islamic' can escape that fate.

This is precisely the blunders made with regard to Afghanistan and Iraq, allowing both to declare an Islamic "constitution". The vanquished Japanese didn't get to choose like that, so why were the Koranimals provided the privilege?

35 posted on 01/19/2012 6:09:24 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: Haiku Guy

As a post-colonial response and due to a large Hindi population, India moved left and used the soviets as a blocking agent to help them firm up and develop infrastructure. In the cold war that was perceived as a large domino that had to be counteracted should it fall completely...thus Pakistan. It was only after many years they came around to more capitalistic thinking - still heavy on social projects, but the offset social spending by slower infrastructure projects. The infrastructure really didn’t kick off until the last 15 years and was provided by companies as payment for allowed market access.


36 posted on 01/19/2012 6:12:01 AM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: James C. Bennett

The Indian pretext for annexing Goa was pretty weak. By that standard, we’d be within our rights to annex Grenada after Bernard Coard started slaughtering his political opponents.


37 posted on 01/19/2012 6:13:35 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Give you sense a break.
And Why Indians are anti american ?
?
> Because US president is being loved by Indians more than his own countrymens
>Because US for the 1st time in the history supports India for permanent UNSC SEAT
>For the 1st for an exceptional seat in NSG without signing any CTBT or bonds .
>Supporting India from grass root to top strageic fronts.

So stop B.S and propganda about being Indians are anti americans.
Am an indian and I love US .
Tell me you want some more?


38 posted on 01/19/2012 6:21:19 AM PST by MBT ARJUN
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To: Zhang Fei
A lot of Indians actually share that opinion with regard to Gandhi. The bulk of the Hindus hate him today, and it was one of them who actually assassinated him - for being sympathetic towards Pakistan - something related to a transfer of money from India to Pakistan over a dispute.

Churchill did play a role in India's Bengal Famine, and apparently regretted it on his deathbed, confiding to his doctor that he was "wrong about India."

- Rediff

39 posted on 01/19/2012 6:23:10 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: Zhang Fei
The Indian pretext for annexing Goa was pretty weak. By that standard, we’d be within our rights to annex Grenada after Bernard Coard started slaughtering his political opponents.

LOL, next thing you'll want would be to return the territory between and including California and Texas to the Mexicans!

The Portuguese should have quit when the British left, instead of having to suffer being booted out militarily for trying to support a lost cause.

40 posted on 01/19/2012 6:27:44 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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