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Posted on 01/22/2012 1:30:04 PM PST by butterdezillion
I need to get in contact with a Georgia attorney who supports the challenges to Obama's eligibility based on his birth certificate forgeries. This is desperately urgent!
Can somebody please help me?
I don’t know where all of you are from, but could you ping any lists you’ve got, or anybody you know who’s from Georgia?
Time is of the essence.
Thanks!
I’m not sure you support the challenges, but the other criteria are met.
How about www.coachisright.com?
Would they know of Georgia attorneys who support the cause?
I don’t remember the Attorneys first name but I believe his last name is Van Irion
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I think they might since they have posted items about an Obama eligibility case in Georgia.
URGENT help request for FReeper ..!
Unfortunately don’t know any election lawyers. That’s a whole different breed of cat from us old courthouse rats who just do “necks, backs and fenders”.
This guy is 1 of the 3 cases being heard.
Georgia Ballot Challenge
Just in! Judge Malihi denies Obama’s motion to quash! Read the ruling HERE. Here’s an excerpt:
“Defendant fails to provide any legal authority to support his motion to quash the subpoena to attend. Defendant’s motion suggests that no President should be compelled to attend a Court hearing. This may be correct. But Defendant has failed to enlighten the Court with any legal authority. Specifically, Defendant has failed to cite to any legal authority evidencing why his attendance is “unreasonable or oppressive…”
David Welden, a citizen of Georgia, filed a complaint under Georgia law challenging the qualifications of Obama to appear on the GA ballot for the office of President. He then contacted Liberty Legal Foundation and requested our assistance. We have been representing him in this action since December. Liberty Legal Foundation filed an opposition to Obama’s motion to dismiss. The Georgia court agreed with our reasoning. On January 3, 2012 Judge Malihi denied Obama’s motion. The court’s short opinion also clearly stated that Georgia law allows Mr. Weldon to challenge candidate Obama’s Constitutional qualifications to hold the office of President. This ruling ensures that the Georgia court will be the first court to address the substantive Constitutional issue of eligibility. All other courts that have heard challenges to Obama’s Constitutional qualifications to hold office have refused to address the substantive issue and have dismissed on procedural grounds.
LOCATION CHANGE! – The hearing on January 26th at 9am is public so be there if you can. The location is the JUSTICE CENTER BUILDING, Courtroom 3E at 185 Central Avenue, Atlanta, Georgia. Link to all the filings to date:
Welden’s Original Complaint
Obama’s Motion to Dismiss
Liberty Legal Foundation’s Opposition to Obama’s Motion to Dismiss (this was the only Opposition filed by any party to Obama’s Motion to Dismiss)
Order Denying Defendant’s Motion to Dismiss (this order moots any motion for depositions, no depositions will be held during the current proceedings)
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The only attorney who is arguing the birth certificate issue is ORly Taitz. The other 2 challenges are based sheerly on the NBC issue. As seizethecarp has been saying for quite a while, the NBC argument could fall apart if Obama argues that BHO’s marriage to Ann is null because he was already married to Kezia and the US doesn’t allow bigamy. If Obama argued that - and actually if that is true - then if what seizethecarp is saying about Britain’s laws is correct, Obama would not have been born a British subject or citizen or whatever it is because Britain does not confer citizenship on illegitimate children born on foreign soil to British fathers.
And a recent Facebook ad suggests that this may well be the route that Obama’s people are going to take. A head-fake.
I’ve always said that we should not put all our eggs in either the birthplace or the NBC basket. As it stands right now, for better or for worse, Orly is the only person who is willing to take on Obama’s forgery and perjury and WHY he forged those BC’s. Her plate is very, very full and she’s had difficulty getting all the technical legal points taken care of - which is understandable given all that she’s been doing.
I have something that Judge Malihi DEFINITELY needs to see. But I need to make sure it is acceptable to the court, and that means I need a GA attorney who can be trusted to do this right. I’ve already tried contacting Van Irion and Hatfield; they are not interested. Their eggs are all in the NBC basket. More power to them and I hope they win. But I fear that Obama’s people have done a massive head-fake on them and I don’t want to risk that.
Anybody who can help me will be my friend for life!
Nellie
I don’t know what the law is, but somebody had said that only an attorney can file an amicus brief. I just need an attorney who can take what I’ve got, put it in a form that complies with the requirements of the Administrative Court, and file it with Judge Malihi.
Even if you just know of somebody from Georgia who supports this issue and might know a lawyer who believes the truth needs to be known, that could go a long ways if they could give you some names for me to check out.
Georgia Freeper Ping here. Hope someone can help you.
OK, good luck..
But wouldn’t he then be guilty of fraud???
By the way, let me extend my thanks for all you have done but remember that Obama is just a gog in the machine. We need to destroy the whole machine.
Buckhead last posted a comment a few days ago:
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:buckhead/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change
Hey, Buckhead, your advice is badly needed here and pronto!
Got a card in your rolodex with a lawyer’s name who might be interested in this?
Why don’t you file an objection to Obama’s name placed on the ballot in your state?
Contrary to popular believe, the State of Georgia does not speak for every state. For example, the State of Florida will allow any candidate who meets the criteria for ballot placement to be on the ballot, regardless of eligibility to take the office. See Abdul K. Hassan request for determination of ballot access from State of Florida, Secretary of State.
The State of Colorado will only allow a candidate for POTUS who meets all other criteria for ballot placement to be on the ballot if the will sign a sworn statement they are eligible for the office. See Abdul K. Hassan v State of Colorado, Secretary of State.
Mr. Hassan is suing various states for ballot access after admitting he’s a naturalized American citizen. He wins in some states and has lost in others.
The State of Georgia has three eligibility lawsuits. Others will follow.
On the off chance you haven’t been pinged and can help.
And of course you’re already here! Should have looked first.
Sorry I did not know that. He was 'awesome' back when Dan Rather was pushing fraudulent documents.
No problem! It’s like I tell my dog training friends here - I’d rather be called twice than not be called at all!
Could you just contact Orly Taitz? She would know who you can use.
Nebraska’s useless. Our laws only require the DNC to say he’s their candidate. And our SOS is counting on the media to vet eligibility. A sad, sad joke.
We’ve got this case in GA and a judge that - at least so far - has been willing to rule against Obama. I’d hate to see this chance slip by.
Agreed.
HE wouldn’t be guilty of fraud because he could claim he never knew the Ann-BHO marriage was null.
If I have to I will contact Orly. She’s got so much on her plate though. It would be impossible for anybody to do what she’s done and get all the little technical details right. Which is probably why she hasn’t gotten all the technical legal details right. If somebody else could help pull some of this weight I’d feel a lot better about it. We can’t just leave everything to Orly and then wonder why she can’t know and do everything perfectly, like sideline hecklers.
My understanding is that Orly will have a limited amount of time to present her material. To have something concise written down for the judge to see, and that he would have to take into consideration, would be a very good thing.
Which is exactly what Phil Berg did both before and after the DNC Convention and the judge ruled it was none of his business.
I will look at the linked case (Abdul K. Hassan v State of Colorado, Secretary of State) and contact again this week.
Thanks for what you do.
I would contact the governor’s office—i.e.: Nathan Deal—tomorrow. Recall that as a rep., Deal sent Obama a letter asking him to prove his eligibility. (Iirc, Obama never answered.) If anybody in GA knows who the conservative election lawyers are, I’d imagine it would be Deal. His office might be willing and able to make a recommendation.
Unfortunately, the Georgia SoS can ignore the advisory opinion written the Judge Malihi. All Judge Malihi will do is write an opinion for the SoS that will state that if the facts remain the same and a plaintiff with standing sues the GA SoS over Obama’s placement on the ballot, then a GA Court will rule in a manner similar to my opinion.
Regardless of the facts and regardless of Judge Malihi’s opinion, the Georgia SoS will decide if Obama is placed on the ballot unilaterally. Another lawsuit against the Georgia SoS, regardless of how he decides, is likely. And it will be de novo (a new trial, as if the Administrative Hearing never happened).
It doesn’t matter, BHO sr. was not an American citizen anyway. Junior was not born to two U.S. parents.
The only one besides Orly that I could think of would be J.Christian Adams.
Google him and you’ll probably find an email address pretty easily.
I used to have it and emailed with him back and forth for a short while.
He may be able to give you the name of someone good.
Best of luck.
I think buckhead is a judge now. Based on my zero knowledge of legal issues I would imagine it would not be appropriate for him to get involved in any way.
I wish I could give you a name. Most of the attorneys in my area are the DUI, Drugs and Divorce garden variety.
“I've already tried contacting Van Irion and Hatfield; they are not interested.”
I believe that only Van Irion is exclusively pursuing the Minor v Happersett NBC issue.
Hatfield filed a demand to Obama for production of a long list of documents including a certified HI BC, SS records and academic records and passport applications:
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/01/georgia-representative-and-attorney.html
While not accusing Obama of fraud, like Orly, Hatfield is, IMO placing Obama in severe legal jeopardy because no attorney will be willing to go to jail just to place a forged “certified” Obama BC (either short or long) into evidence.
Obama’s own lawyers and staff have been treating the HI LFBC pdf like it was Kryptonite! They wouldn't even let Obama HOLD it at the WH “release” press gaggle.
So, IMO, if Obama’s pdf BC is forged, as we suspect, Hatfield is mounting a potentially fatal legal challenge for Obama just by demanding production of any certified BC. Even the Obots over at Fogbow say over and over that Obama’s attorney should just show up with one of the two alleged “self-authenticating LFBC’s next Thursday and the hearing would be over. That only works if the LFBC is genuine!
Prayers are with you,
(in 2008) Cody Judy filed the first Brief of Amicus Curiae on behalf of the Petition in Captain Barett v. Obama constitutionally challenging the “natural born citizen” clause of the U.S. Constitution in the case of Barack Obama. Cody is not an attorney and not from the state where the lawsuit was filed.
Cody Judy is a 2012 pres candidate on the Dem ticket running on obama’s eligibility.
I think he will be delighted to hear from you and help you.
You have to leave a message, or phone for him to call you back. He is getting so many prank calls if he doen’t recognize a number he won’t pick it up. Tell him Chris Smith sent you.
Cody’s cell 801-497-6655 Email: codyjudy@hotmail.co
“Officers of the court,” all! Thank you in any event for your reply!
Is he from GA?
I believe an attorney would have to gain permission from the court to file an Amicus Brief. I am not sure though. I am unfamiliar with Georgia’s Rules of the Court.
What do you have that’s so important?
Walker Chandler is a libertarian lawyer who has won cases before scotus
And a recent Facebook ad suggests that this may well be the route that Obama’s people are going to take.
This was all discussed in detail here (over 700 posts): ...http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2835505/posts?q=1&;page=1
Including the new pic of Obama in the library claiming he was born of "a single mother"
Basically the father is that person named on the birth cwertificate ...weather or not he is the biological father.
Can only get taken off after a DNA test.
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There are some ADF (Alliance Defense Fund) lawyers here in GA...
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"Attorney Mark Hatfield on behalf of Carl Swensson and Kevin Powell filed a notice to produce records against Obama in the Georgia Ballot Challenge. Attorney Hatfield also filed a motion for determination of placement of burden of proof in the challenge. Also Judge Malihi issued an order today related to the motion for determination which is linked below. All 3 new filings linked below.
From the Notice to Produce:
Pursuant to OSAH Rule 616-1-2-.19, Defendant Barack Obama is hereby notified to be and appear before the Georgia Office of State Administrative Hearings, the Honorable Michael M. Malihi presiding, at the Fulton County Justice Center Building, 161 Pryor Street, Courtroom G-40, Atalanta, Georgia on January 26, 2012 at 9:00 a.m., and to bring with him into said Court the following items to be used as evidence by the Plaintiffs in the above-styled case:
(a) One (1) of the two (2) original certified copies of Defendant Barack Obama's ("long form") Certificate of Live Birth as referenced in the four (4) pages of Exhibit "A" attached;
(b) All medical, religious, administrative, or other records of or related to Defendant Barack Obama's birth;
(c) Any and all United States Passports, passport applications, and passport-related records for Defendant Barack Obama;
(d) Any and all passport, passport applications, and passport-related records for Defendant Barack Obama from any country, nation, or sovereignty;
(e) Any and all college and university admission information, both undergraduate and postgraduate, for Defendant Barack Obama, including, but not limited to, admission applications; letters of recommendation; school transcripts; financial aid applications; scholarship applications; and any and all correspondence awarding admission, financial aid, scholarships, or the like;
(f) Any and all applications and accompanying materials submitted by or for Defendant Barack Obama to the State Bar of Illinois, the State Supreme Court of Illinois, the Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois, and any other similar entity regulating the admission to the practice of law;
(g) Any and all other documents, materials, and papers having any relation to the subject of the birthplace, citizenship, denizenship, and national origin of Defendant Barack Obama;
(h) Any and all other documents, materials, and papers having any relation to the subject of the birthplace, citizenship, denizenship, and national origin of Defendant's father, Barack Obama Sr.
(i) All correspondence between Defendant Barack Obama and any other person, firm, political party, or entity discussing Defendant's status vel non as a natural born Citizen pursuant to Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the United States Constitution.
Defendant will note that the preceding items are requested hereby, whether they pertain to Defendant under his name Barack Obama or any other name, including but not limited to Barack Hussein Obama II; Barry Soetoro; Barry Soebarkah; Barry Obama, or the like.
“Even the Obots over at Fogbow say over and over that Obama’s attorney should just show up with one of the two alleged “self-authenticating LFBC’s next Thursday and the hearing would be over.”
An attorney needs a witness to submit evidence for admission to the record. For example, the Judge reads the case file number and ask representatives of the parties to introduce themselves for the record. The Judge then says, “Call your first witness.”
I’ve seen posts indicating Obama’s attorney could use the Georgia Democratic Chairman to submit the certified copy of Obama’s COLB, but that calls into question the chain of custody. How did he obtain it? How did he preserve it? Who’s had access to it? In this case, it would probably be disallowed as hearsay.
The only viable way to have a certified copy of Obama’s COLB submitted as evidence is to call Obama as a witness and have him produced it for the Court’s consideration. If admitted, Obama’s attorney could ask Obama how he obtained it. Who’s had access to it? How has he preserved it?
Of course, opposing Counsel would have the opportunity to cross-examine the witness and impeach the evidence through his sworn testimony.
Is this a certified copy of the only birth record you’ve requested from the Hawai’i DoH?
Can you describe the certified copy of any other birth record you’ve requested and received from Hawai’i DoH?
Does the certified copy of the birth record you’ve submitted to the Court as evidence have signatures of witness(es) who attested to your birth?
Did the certified copy of the “long form” you’ve requested have witness(es) who signed statements attesting to the act of your birth?
Why have those witness(es) withdrawn their signatures and attestation from your current birth record?
etc ....
Obama won’t show and his lawyer can’t introduce evidence of his birth certificate without him or a Hawai’i official to submit it.
Something’s odd. The contact info on this website shows a Knoxville, TN mailing address, but the area code listed is incorrect for Knoxville. The ONLY area code we have is 865, not 423. The 423 area code is for upper or lower East Tennessee. Hmmm.
Listings for lawyers in GA per the State Bar of GA:
Administrative Lawyers
Local Government Law
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