[Colonel_Flagg]

I am of a different view: command means responsibility and they were the senior commanders.

The Commander-in-Chief is, by definition, senior to both.

While not abrogating the responsibility of Kimmel and Short as the top local area commanders, I find it revealing that Obama-sized buses were available in Roosevelt's time too.

[texanyankee]

By coincidence, last night the Military Channel broadcast an episode about the “first 007 agent” whose name was “Popov” and was from Yugoslavia.

He was a double agent working for the Germans & the British.

Sometime in mid 1941, he shared evidence with the FBI - Hoover to be specific - that the Japanese were interested in him getting info on Pearl Harbor and also were very interested in carrier based air strikes.

Hoover scoffed at the thought and dismissed Popov cuz he “didnt trust double agents.”