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exCTCitizen

Posted on 01/31/2012 6:17:15 PM PST by ExCTCitizen

Tonight, Florida disappointed me. I thought Florida was a Conservative state but it isn't..


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Why did all the leaders went for Obama light, instead of the REAL conservative. Most disappointed in Adam Putnam who is a conservative. - or was.

Republican Party of Florida, you RINO loving MORONS,don't be surprised if you lose. We want a party that will defend our FREEDOMS not a party that will make us lose it. We have the Dems to help us lose our freedoms - we don't need RINOS. RPoF...you disgust me. You made your bed, don't be surprised if Obama win if Romney gets to be the RINO party choice. You suck...RPoF!

1 posted on 01/31/2012 6:17:20 PM PST by ExCTCitizen
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To: ExCTCitizen

FL was never a conservative state. Obama won in 08, Gore almost won in 2000, RINO Crist was well liked until he became a sore loser, Meek + Crist together had more votes than Rubio even in the huge red wave of 2010.


2 posted on 01/31/2012 6:21:10 PM PST by PAConservative1
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To: ExCTCitizen

Newts a loser


3 posted on 01/31/2012 6:22:16 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: ExCTCitizen

Everyone please excuse my French:

FU, Romney. You might be smiling now, but your day is coming. The MSM will reveal you & your religion for the pack of wackos that you are. Hope you had fun using your Alinsky tactics against Newt, because you’ll soon be getting a taste of your own medicine.

I’m so angry with FL right now that my head is pounding.....,


4 posted on 01/31/2012 6:23:01 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: ExCTCitizen

Florida.

It is what it is.

It went about as expected what with 99% negative ads from Mittwitt (16 million bucks or so).

I will be watching down the campaign road if it is tight for Mitt. I would not be surprised if RNC “restores” the full delegate count if it will help him.

We will be watching...

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5 posted on 01/31/2012 6:25:29 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

Are you allowed to say that here?


6 posted on 01/31/2012 6:26:22 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (I'm not cut out to suffer fools like this.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

Newt is so 90s. His time has past. Romney will be the next President.
I’m not saying I like it but I’d vote for a spatula to be rid of Obama.


7 posted on 01/31/2012 6:26:22 PM PST by romanesq (For George Soros so loved the world, he gave us Obama)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

And you are nuts.
Gingrich lost FL a liberal state.
1000+ delegates to win the nomination.
Romney the stink’n liberal has around 75.
Romney has won to liberal states.
Conservative states coming up.


8 posted on 01/31/2012 6:27:15 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen You up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

“The MSM will reveal you & your religion for the pack of wackos that you are.”

Maybe that is a good thing. Maybe it is part of the Divine Plan. But it is not a good reason to vote for Romney.


9 posted on 01/31/2012 6:27:15 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: ExCTCitizen

Shocked at the overwhelming margin, but Newt did not have a good week....it became pretty clear in the past five days he was unlikely to win. His debate performances were probably his worst, and he just didn’t seem to have a theme in Florida. His speech on Saturday night was brilliant, as were some of his other performances, but only a very small percentage of voters would know that. Newt’s advertising was not effective enough to fend off the money or attacks sent his way.

In the end, this is sad and disappointing, but the candidates have to find a way to work through the sludge and communicate an alternative worth voting for. Unfortunately, his campaign lost all the momentum coming out of that South Carolina win.


10 posted on 01/31/2012 6:28:49 PM PST by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: ExCTCitizen

Some counties tend to be more conservative but no Florida is not really conservative anymore; too many illegal aliens and retired/relocated libs.


11 posted on 01/31/2012 6:29:47 PM PST by D1X1E
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To: romanesq

Go to hell. Romney will not get mine or many others votes. You’re on the wrong forum pal.


12 posted on 01/31/2012 6:29:54 PM PST by Abbeville Conservative (Sarah Palin, the only cure for the RINO virus.)
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To: ExCTCitizen

FL primary... is it registered-Republicans only? or open?


13 posted on 01/31/2012 6:30:24 PM PST by Rio (DNRC)
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To: ExCTCitizen

Don’t assume it was Florida’s fault. All of the candidates in both parties are flawed. None of them are really worthy of a great nation.


14 posted on 01/31/2012 6:31:10 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Past Your Eyes

I hope people don’t start getting banned because we don’t drink the Newt kool-aid. Personally I wanted Christie from NJ or Jindal from Louisiana to run. I bet Bobby Jindal is kicking himself for not getting into this race between Mittens and Newt. He’d wipe the floor with those losers.


15 posted on 01/31/2012 6:31:19 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: PAConservative1
was a long time ago but now it is 1/3 conservatives, 1/3 of foreign decent and 1/3 yankee transplants
16 posted on 01/31/2012 6:31:26 PM PST by ldish (Looking forward to Independence Day)
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To: romanesq

If Romney is the GOP nominee, you are wrong, romanesq.
There won’t be a “next” President until 2016.


17 posted on 01/31/2012 6:31:29 PM PST by Mountain Mary (Awaken Oh America...)
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To: ExCTCitizen

The problem with Florida is that all the state elections typically get the hard right conservatives out. The presidential and national elections bring out the “moderates”


18 posted on 01/31/2012 6:31:51 PM PST by Vindibudd
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To: ExCTCitizen

Florida is infested with New England liberals.


19 posted on 01/31/2012 6:33:14 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: svcw

Since Gingrich lost it, Florida is a liberal state. Seems like only yesterday it was a great place and he was very optimistic about his chances there.


20 posted on 01/31/2012 6:33:19 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (I'm not cut out to suffer fools like this.)
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To: Brilliant

As Mark Steyn said on Rush last week, we’re going to have a deeply flawed candidate and it’s up to us to drag him across the finish line as a winner.


21 posted on 01/31/2012 6:34:10 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: Rio

RINO only primary.


22 posted on 01/31/2012 6:34:39 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12, don't blame 0 for tearing up the CONSTITUTION!!)
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To: D1X1E

>>Some counties tend to be more conservative but no Florida is not really conservative anymore; too many illegal aliens and retired/relocated libs.

Florida is two states. The north and panhandle is conservative and southern. The south is yankee liberals and hispanics. Unfortunately, demographics are beating the good people and our state is turning into California-East.


23 posted on 01/31/2012 6:35:49 PM PST by Bryanw92 (The solution to fix Congress: Nuke em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!)
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To: nascarnation

Exactly. And then once he wins, trash him mercilessly when he strays.


24 posted on 01/31/2012 6:36:18 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: ilgipper

Glad you brought up Newt’s debate performances. When a guy builds his rep on his debating skills, he can’t afford to go flat the way he did in the FL debates.

I my opinion, Newt needs some hardened pros as top advisers. He has surrounded himself with too many whiz kids who are more kid than whiz. Good, hardened advisers would not have let him flatline in the FL debates.


25 posted on 01/31/2012 6:37:57 PM PST by hampdenkid
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To: Past Your Eyes
Florida voters had trouble with the "butterfly ballot".

No one in the very long history of using that particular voting device had ever had problems like Florida had them.

Do not ever trust the judgment of the Florida population.

26 posted on 01/31/2012 6:39:37 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: ExCTCitizen

48 states to go. I am not down because Newt laid down the law in his speech and Santorum pulled out of Florida and is surging in other states. Either one is tons better than Romney. Otherwise I am going to vote 3rd party.


27 posted on 01/31/2012 6:40:07 PM PST by Mozilla (Defeat Romney first then defeat Obama)
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To: romanesq

Romney will NOT be president. You can take that to the bank. It will be Obama or someone else.

Romney has 0.0% chance of winning.


28 posted on 01/31/2012 6:40:17 PM PST by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: D1X1E

I worked a Central florida polling place today for 8 hrs. Had a table set up outside to sign up people to fight Obama in 2012. Not pushing a candidate today but just listening and getting people signed up to work against Obama in 2012. The sad fact is that old person after old person pulled up into the handicap spots to vote. They were scared by the ads and admitted to voting for Mitt. I just want to share with the other states that Florida is not “you” We have a lot of old scared people who think that the need to vote for Mitt or they will be left to die. Keep up the good fight.


29 posted on 01/31/2012 6:41:03 PM PST by happyhomemaker (That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children)
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To: D1X1E

Analyzing Fl, it appears that Gingrich has won the majority of counties.

The larger counties, where the Mormon Bishop spent most of his 15 million, have put him over the top.

Santorum, another degenerate lawyer megalomaniac, the sweater vest wearing schmuck who couldn’t win reelection to the Senate in his own state, has over 200,000 votes, obviously staying in this to sabotage Gingrich.

MYTH ROMNEY is sadly mistaken if he thinks he can buy the WH.

He can’t.


30 posted on 01/31/2012 6:41:47 PM PST by Rome2000 (MYTH ROMNEY IS A MORMON MELCHIDEZEK HIGH PRIEST)
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To: surroundedbyblue
I share your anger as well.... Photobucket
31 posted on 01/31/2012 6:41:53 PM PST by NCDave (AKA, "That idiot over there")
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To: Past Your Eyes

Guys and Gals. Just 14 months ago, Florida did a clean sweep electing the most conservative options...they picked Rubio in a 3 way race, placed an outsider business man in the governor’s office, Picked up at least 4 seats for the House including dumping Grayson and adding Allen West, and placed the statehouse in an 80-20 Republican majority. It was arguably the biggest success story of the 2010 election cycle, having twice rejected Crist and basically swept the Dems out of power at all levels.

This result is not a sign of the state being liberal. It is all about the dynamics of this particular race at this particular time. The Romney/RNC machine used overwhelming force to knock Gingrich off his perch after SC. Much like Iowa, it illustrated Newt’s problems in this race. Yes, I voted for him, but this race showed how vulnerable he would be in the fall. Newt has huge positives and some real negatives. He also has an existing reputation that proceeds him in this race as the villain in the Clinton years. Much of the narrative is false, but it is well established and hard to beat.

Of the Republicans I know well...mostly all conservative...they were heavily influenced by the media/ad barrage and bought into the businessman side of Romney over a lifetime politician. Frankly, those that only pay some attention saw Romney as the outsider with a business background. There message worked, Newt’s didn’t. On we go to the next round.


32 posted on 01/31/2012 6:41:56 PM PST by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: PAConservative1

Agreed ... Florida is really like NJ ... dominated by liberal NYC retirees along the east coast .... I live in Clearwater, one end of the famous I-4 co er ridor to Orlando ... Newt is fine tonight ... Romney was forced to reveal his ruthless Mormon evil side, and had to spend $ 15 for a Pyrric victory against Newt .... 13,000 TV ads to Newts 200 ? Political professionals know Willards a Dead Man Walking for Super Tuesday ... Santorum and Pawlenty have been exposed as Romney stooges ... Mitt also has burned his bridges with the Tea Party after his vicious ads against Newt ... Finally, how many of those Florida Snowbird RINO retirees will actually WORK Willards national campaign ? Almost zero ... Fortunately, Newt is already on the road to victory, so this is all academic. I’m keeping my Newt campaign sign in the front yard, and sending Newt another $ 100 this Friday ... Sleep well tonight, Patriots ...


33 posted on 01/31/2012 6:42:24 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin in 2012 !)
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To: PAConservative1

Agreed ... Florida is really like NJ ... dominated by liberal NYC retirees along the east coast .... I live in Clearwater, one end of the famous I-4 co er ridor to Orlando ... Newt is fine tonight ... Romney was forced to reveal his ruthless Mormon evil side, and had to spend $ 15 for a Pyrric victory against Newt .... 13,000 TV ads to Newts 200 ? Political professionals know Willards a Dead Man Walking for Super Tuesday ... Santorum and Pawlenty have been exposed as Romney stooges ... Mitt also has burned his bridges with the Tea Party after his vicious ads against Newt ... Finally, how many of those Florida Snowbird RINO retirees will actually WORK Willards national campaign ? Almost zero ... Fortunately, Newt is already on the road to victory, so this is all academic. I’m keeping my Newt campaign sign in the front yard, and sending Newt another $ 100 this Friday ... Sleep well tonight, Patriots ...


34 posted on 01/31/2012 6:43:29 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin in 2012 !)
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To: romanesq

IBTZ


35 posted on 01/31/2012 6:43:38 PM PST by Mozilla (Defeat Romney first then defeat Obama)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Hey. Watch that. I’m a New England conservative!!!


36 posted on 01/31/2012 6:44:33 PM PST by RAV_USA (RAV_USA)
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To: ExCTCitizen

I think’s it been clear since 2000 that Florida is the vending-machine of votes.


37 posted on 01/31/2012 6:45:12 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (religion + guns = liberty.)
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To: happyhomemaker
We have a lot of old scared people who think that the need to vote for Mitt or they will be left to die. Keep up the good fight.

Interesting feedback. What was the message they were told that made them think Newt would leave them to die? I saw the ads this past week, but frankly tried to watch as little TV as possible to avoid the annoyance.

38 posted on 01/31/2012 6:45:38 PM PST by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: ExCTCitizen

Newt failed Newt. He ran a pathetic campaign. 11 million grandmas? Moon bases? Kosher meals? Horrid.


39 posted on 01/31/2012 6:45:42 PM PST by montag813
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To: ExCTCitizen

Florida failed the country. Bunch of northerners and northern attitudes. I’ve said it a hundred times in this forum ... Florida is NOT a part of the South. Don’t ever believe that it is.


40 posted on 01/31/2012 6:46:42 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
" Personally I wanted Christie from NJ ..."

That's not saying anything good about you, really.

41 posted on 01/31/2012 6:49:41 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: ExCTCitizen

Santorum is splitting the vote .Without him it would be nearly tied right now.

In Florida you have to be a member of the party to vote in the primaries . Since most people feel that 0 already has the ticket for the Democrats I would not be surprised if we have a lot of Democrats that changed their party affiliation just to do this here again.
(it’s the blue counties that are keeping Romney’s numbers up)
To that you also have to add that the snow birds that spend the cool months of the year here are here right now and those people vote here and no one bothers to check if they vote again when they go home.


42 posted on 01/31/2012 6:50:17 PM PST by Lera
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

I feel the same way about people who laughably proclaime Newt as a champion for Conservatives.


43 posted on 01/31/2012 6:52:13 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: ExCTCitizen

They saw what happened to our Att. General Bill McCollum when he ran for Governor in 2010. Rick Scott spent $70,000,000 and buried him. All the Republican Politians went with the highest bidder. So did all our pundits and leaders. Only Jim Robinson stood strong and sorted and Zotted this place to sanity. He personally straighten me out about Mitt last summer. Florida is filled with people who came down here with a dream and now sit here with a lot of broken dreams.


44 posted on 01/31/2012 6:55:36 PM PST by ynotjjr (Gingrich/Rubio 2012 It's called the Constitution. Learn it, live it, love it!)
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To: nascarnation

Mark Steyn can genuinely kiss my dog ... His typical attempts at cynical comic relief ... to boost his radio ratings at Newts expense ... are pathetic ... Bain Capital and ClearChannel will reward the likes of scumbags like Mark Steyn when Rush kicks the bucket someday ... sooner than people want to think ... Rush has become a Donald Trrump media whore, in the same ilk as that Simon Crowell character ... Money talks, Bravo Sierra walks ...


45 posted on 01/31/2012 6:56:28 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin in 2012 !)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

What made you think he was referring to Newtie?

I thought he was talking about Willard.....


46 posted on 01/31/2012 6:58:20 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: happyhomemaker

We have a lot of old scared people who think that the need to vote for Mitt or they will be left to die
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Do these senile old dinosaurs have petrified brains? I am in no way a newt fan. In fact I can’t stand him. Seriously, Mitt is not going to save them. No one can. The government is broke.


47 posted on 01/31/2012 7:00:29 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Lera

Santorum is splitting the vote .Without him it would be nearly tied right now.
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You are delusional. Santorum voters would NOT all go to Newt. Figure a 60-40 split at most in Newt’s favor.


48 posted on 01/31/2012 7:02:26 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: ExCTCitizen
Florida did not fail Newt. With 3 to 1 spending Newt did well dollar for dollar. I don't know why the last debate went so badly...(out of character for Newt). The problem is people would rather listen to the ABC networks and their propaganda machines rather than doing their homework. If people would educate themselves and open their eyes the truth will prevail, but they're too lazy for facts. The battle has been lost, but we still have a war to win.
GO NEWT!!!!!
49 posted on 01/31/2012 7:06:27 PM PST by lula (Newt 2012! We need him now more than ever because the establishment is scared.)
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To: mamelukesabre

Thanks for your post. I have been saying the same thing. Not all Santorum votes are going to Newt. Most recent polls show it right at 50/50 split. Everyone here said if Bachman gets out, Newt will win. If Perry gets out, Newt will win. And now they are saying if Santorum gets out, Newt will win. No so, according to recent data. In fact, without Santorum, Mitt probably wraps this up by Super Tuesday.

And besides, this is really a pointless argument. The old “iffing” game never works. It is what it is. If Newt can’t win with Santorum, he can;t win the general election anyway. And if Newt can;t handle Romney’s negative campaigning, then he can’t handle OBama’s negative campaign monster in the fall. I guarantee, Obama will rip Newt or Mitt 100 times harder than what is going on in the primaries.


50 posted on 01/31/2012 7:07:21 PM PST by gswilder
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