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Weekly FR Boating Thread ~ Vol. 3 ~ Feb. 10, 2012 ~ Boat Transportation

Posted on 02/10/2012 9:37:05 AM PST by ImProudToBeAnAmerican

Weekly FR Boating Thread ~ Vol. 3 ~ Feb. 10, 2012 ~ Boat Transportation

Launching ~ Weekly FR Boating Thread ~ Vol. 1 ~ Jan. 27, 2012

Weekly FR Boating Thread ~ Vol. 2 ~ Feb 3, 2012 ~ “Off Season”

Last week’s thread had 26 posts, including the source for this week’s thread – boat transportation.

I have helped clients ship vessels of all sizes and types all over North America and overseas. Except for two small scratches, every shipping project was successful, albeit harrowing on occasion.

To help ensure your boat shipping efforts are successful, I will provide boat transportation suggestions and sources via separate posts.

Please feel free to share your experiences and comments – vessel shipping related and otherwise.

Post away, and/or ping me to sign up for this Weekly FR Boating Thread ping list.

Happy boating!

"Anything that can go wrong will go wrong" ~ Capt. Ed Murphy


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Hobbies; Outdoors; Sports
KEYWORDS: boat; shipping; transportation; vessel

1 posted on 02/10/2012 9:37:08 AM PST by ImProudToBeAnAmerican
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican

Just make sure whatever boat you choose or decide to ship doesn’t sink with all your guns.


2 posted on 02/10/2012 9:43:29 AM PST by Afterguard
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican
General boat transportation suggestions:

While boat transportation companies carry commercial liability insurance, I recommend obtaining separate coverage (transportation insurance rider) from your insurance company.

If possible, empty fuel, water and holding tanks.

Prep vessel for a bumpy ride – loose gear stowed below will break or damage your cabinetry.

Sailboat rigs – secure and wrap standing and running rigging – commercial plastic wrap works great.

Shipping height - lower is safer and less expensive – remove lifelines and stanchions, wheels, pedestals, dorades, antennas, biminis, dodgers, etc.

Flybridge removal – label all wires and cables.

Vessels wider than 8’6” require permits.
Vessels wider than 12’ -13’ require escorts.
Vessels higher than 13’6” require escorts.
(Shipping requirements vary from state to state.)

For the best shipping rate – you’ll need to make lots of calls.

The goal is to find a qualified shipper who needs your load to avoid running ‘empty’.

Call all shippers, boatyards on both ends of the trip, even list your vessel on UShip.com

Shipping brokers can help you obtain a lower shipping rate, but be very cautious about any who request or require a deposit.

Shippers will want to know the make and model of your vessel, weight, width, height, shipping to and from locations. If shipping on your own trailer – brake type and ball size.

If you can be flexible on shipping dates, you can save 15 – 25%. Working with a reputable shipping company is more important than getting the lowest price, of course. The purpose of shopping around is to avoid being overcharged, not necessarily to take the cheapest option.

Ballpark shipping costs: Fuel costs have a very direct relationship to the cost of vessel shipping. In general, medium sized boats, 30’ – 40’, which do not require escorts – average the price of a gallon of fuel per mile. Example: Diesel = $3.75 x 1000 miles = swag shipping cost of $3,750.

Vessels on their own trailers run less.
Vessels which require escorts cost more.
The larger the vessel, the more complicated and expensive the project.

Respect the rule of the 7 P's with all shipping efforts - Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Projects.

3 posted on 02/10/2012 9:43:58 AM PST by ImProudToBeAnAmerican (www.brilliantyachts.com)
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican

Thought I would make this contribution to your thread. After the Concordia sinking - I reminisced about the one and only cruise I took with my sister on a Carnival ship. On board there was an elderly woman who was a ‘permanent’ passenger; she had determined that the access to medical staff, food and lodging was cheaper than assisted living on land.

Not as rare as I had believed.

http://notjustforseniors.blogspot.com/2009/10/cruise-ships-as-retirement-communities.html


4 posted on 02/10/2012 9:44:49 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason...... to celebrate life and embrace the future.)
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican
Here are the boat transportation companies on my boating website. (While this is not a complete list of reputable boat transportation companies – I have worked with all of these companies or they were referred to me by brokerage clients.)

Coastal Marine Transport, Peter Hamm, Charleston, SC 843-696-0278

Insured Boat Hauling, Charleston, SC, (Vessels with or without trailers – up to 36′/15,000 lbs), Travis McGormley, Charleston, SC 843-754-9929


American Boat Carriers/McDonnell & Associates (Beverly), 
Alachua, FL
 800-828-3364

Anchorage Marine Service, Holland, MI 616-399-6745

Andrews Trucking, 
Ontario, CA
 800-263-7140

Annapolis Rigging, 
Annapolis, MD
 410-269-8035

Associated Boat Transport, Woodenville, WA
 800-247-1198

Barbour Trucking, Austin, TX 
800-256-5671

Boat Transport, Inc., Middlebury, IN 866-748-8952

Boats Express, Inc.,
Tampa, FL 800-926-2875

Bothwell Boatworks, Bothwell, Ontario 519-436-4984

Brownell Systems, Mattapoisette, MA 800-262-8428

Cam Transport, Cocoa Beach, FL 
800-868-1243

Can-Am Marine Transport, Hudson, Quebec 401-864-3705

Cross Country Boat Transport, 
Hastings, MN 651-437-2454

Great Lakes Boat Transport, Grafton, WI 
262-375-3003

J. Daniel Marine 800-488-5933

A1 Haulaboat 866-590-1156

J&E Carriers
, Wilmington, NC 
910-538-6637

Joule Yacht Transport
, Clearwater, FL 800-237-0727

L&M Transportation Services
, Raleigh, NC 800-632-3030

M&N Transportation
, Armada, MI
 586-784-4592

Marine Transportation Nationwide, Davidson, NC 
704-784-4592

Michigan Boat Cartage, 
Eastpoint, MI 810-773-1000

Moger Yacht Transport
, Gardena, CA
, 800-533-7527

Patterson Marine Service
, Pentwater, MI
 616-869-6411

QMR, 
Ken Sieler 
602-524-9144

Skipper Shipper
, Jensen Beach, FL 
772-225-1279

SWD Transportation
, Southwest Harbor, ME
, 207-244-3470

Freight Forwarding/International

Fitzgerald Freight Forwarding,
Jack Fitzgerald, Savannah, GA 912-898-1069

Atlantic Container Lines 
800-225-1235

Seamodal
 510-832-2686

Seven Star Yacht Transport

Sol Yacht Transport
 954-713-0413

Yacht Path Marine Group
 561-784-6700

Please email additions and corrections to yachts@brilliantyachts.com

5 posted on 02/10/2012 9:49:33 AM PST by ImProudToBeAnAmerican (www.brilliantyachts.com)
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican

Nothing half as much worth doing then messing around in boats:)

Couple of boats I was interested in buying fell through when I calculated shipping costs. Wide load permits were killers too.


6 posted on 02/10/2012 9:49:45 AM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Travis McGee; DuncanWaring; Eric in the Ozarks; CrazyIvan; Baynative; Eastbound; Roccus; VietVet; ..

This week’s Weekly Boating Thread is up for your review and amusement.

Boat Transportation is the general theme.

Read and ping away!

Happy boating,

Jon


7 posted on 02/10/2012 9:52:37 AM PST by ImProudToBeAnAmerican (www.brilliantyachts.com)
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican

it’s always better to be in your boat with a drink on the rocks, than in the drink with your boat on the rocks


8 posted on 02/10/2012 9:54:30 AM PST by edzo4 (You call us the 'Party Of No', I call us the resistance.)
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To: Cold Heart
Couple of boats I was interested in buying fell through when I calculated shipping costs. Wide load permits were killers too.

With higher fuel costs, shipping is not cheap!

I've had a couple clients spend as much on shipping (overseas) as they paid for their boats.

Need help finding a boat?

Should any FReepers or friends of FReepers opt to use my services to buy and/or sell boats, I will make a donation to FreeRepublic as my personal thank you. (This is my means of supporting Free Republic.)

9 posted on 02/10/2012 9:56:52 AM PST by ImProudToBeAnAmerican (www.brilliantyachts.com)
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To: edzo4
It’s always better to be in your boat with a drink on the rocks, than in the drink with your boat on the rocks.

Truer words have never been spoken.

10 posted on 02/10/2012 9:59:43 AM PST by ImProudToBeAnAmerican (www.brilliantyachts.com)
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican

“Need help finding a boat?”
I’ll keep you in mind when I start looking again. Other projects need finishing right now.


11 posted on 02/10/2012 10:07:42 AM PST by Cold Heart
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican

funny you should post now.....I just got off a site looking for houseboats in the SE USA.....would be interested in your thoughts


12 posted on 02/10/2012 10:18:55 AM PST by M-cubed
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To: All
I am looking for a 32-28ft single diesel to cruise the ICW during the summer.
13 posted on 02/10/2012 10:29:19 AM PST by troy McClure
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican

Not about boat shipping, but about a boat

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2844899/posts


14 posted on 02/10/2012 10:29:28 AM PST by Roccus
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To: troy McClure

I am looking for a Guided missle cruiser. Maybe the British navy has a few I could look at.


15 posted on 02/10/2012 11:09:18 AM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican

Good to see the thread again.

Speaking of boat transport:

Be sure you find a reputable shipper - even some on yachtworld.com are unscrupulous.

We used QMR for our shipping and it was a very professional move....although the total cost from Lake Michigan to Seattle was $52,000. This was after deposits were paid to three companies who only wanted our deposit - which added another $30,000 (lawsuits in progress). This was also 6 years ago before fuel was so high.

The first transport company damaged the boat when taking off the flybridge and repairs in Seattle ran another $100,000.

Fortunately, due to an inheritance, we were able to pay for it, but used most of the money in doing so....

If I had more time (I’m working), I’d go into more detail....


16 posted on 02/10/2012 11:22:06 AM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican
My motto is:

"Without boating, over two-thirds of the Earth's surface would just be wasted."

17 posted on 02/10/2012 11:22:06 AM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: M-cubed

What have you been looking at? We’ve been houseboaters for quite some time and are looking forward to our 15th season in a few months.


18 posted on 02/10/2012 11:24:49 AM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: troy McClure
Hey - thank you for sharing your boating interests with me. 28' - 32' single screw powerboat for cruising up and down the coast - sounds like fun! If you share more info with me, I can help you with your boat search. Where will your home port be? How big will the crew be? Price range? Any boating related skills? Have a boat now? Experience? How tall are you? Time frame? What make or type of a boat do you prefer? As a buyer's agent I can help you buy any boat offered for sale by other yacht brokers - at no cost to you. (Like working with a real estate agent, but more fun.) You can search here: Yachtworld Just email me the YW number for any boat you find of interest or would like to inspect. My personal business site is www.brilliantyachts.com, and my business is a member of the Rudders & Moorings Boating Network. Please let me know how I can best help you with your boating adventures.
19 posted on 02/10/2012 1:13:23 PM PST by ImProudToBeAnAmerican (www.brilliantyachts.com)
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To: sodpoodle

My mom and I crossed the Pacific six times in the 1950s-1961 on Military Sea Transportation Service ships. Army troops on the bow and fan tail and military dependents in tiny staterooms stacked five deep in the mid section.
Two weeks at sea from Seattle to Yokohama. MSTS was slow but we had movies every afternoon in the day room and after dark, outdoors on the fan tail for the troops.
MSTS was the Army’s navy.


20 posted on 02/10/2012 1:47:59 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Beware the Sweater Vest)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

That must have been fun;)

I seem to remember that certain Merchant ships also had passenger cabins available to the public that were less expensive than trans-Atlantic passenger ships such as SS America and the QE1 - in the 50’s & 60’s they were cheaper than flying.


21 posted on 02/10/2012 2:08:53 PM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason...... to celebrate life and embrace the future.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

That must have been fun;)

I seem to remember that certain Merchant ships also had passenger cabins available to the public that were less expensive than trans-Atlantic passenger ships such as SS America and the QE1 - in the 50’s & 60’s they were cheaper than flying.


22 posted on 02/10/2012 2:17:19 PM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason...... to celebrate life and embrace the future.)
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To: sodpoodle
My mom and a couple of her girlfriends sailed from Yokohama to Bangkok and back on a Norwegian freighter.

My wife and I and another couple have taken trips across the Great Lakes on ore carriers (I was a fuel supplier to the fleets.)

If you look around, you can find off beat excursions like this.

23 posted on 02/10/2012 2:19:30 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Beware the Sweater Vest)
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