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Skeptics are winning: “The carbon market is dead”
JoNova ^ | February 11th, 2012 | Joanne

Posted on 02/11/2012 3:14:41 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Al Gore sinks back into irrelevance (snicker).


21 posted on 02/11/2012 4:23:05 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Some articles are meant to be read slowly in order to savor every word. This is one of them.


22 posted on 02/11/2012 4:23:41 PM PST by JPG (Matters at which the foolish laugh and at whose consequences the prudent weep.)
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To: cripplecreek

I hear you. But even when Europe seems to be waking up to the scam, our “dear leader” is doubling down. In about 9 months, we’ll see whether enough of our fellow Americans will allow him to continue.


23 posted on 02/11/2012 4:25:39 PM PST by Let_It_Be_So (Once you see the Truth, you cannot "unsee" it, no matter how hard you may try.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I didn’t notice it mentioned in the story, but the “global warming” scam was killed by the “Climategate” email leak of November 2009, and buried by the follow-up email leak of November 2011.

Buh-bye, you sick “scambags”.

(By the way - - Australia, lol!)


24 posted on 02/11/2012 4:26:16 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Global Climate Change is settled science. All you heretics should be burned at the stake!

If it is warm today, it is proof positive of Global Climate Change.

If it is cold today, it is proof positive of Global Climate Change.

If it is wet, dry, windy, less windy, it doesn’t matter. No matter what the weather is anywhere in the world, it is proof positive of Global Climate Change.

It’s all Bush’s fault.

Now shut up and give us more money so we can continue to prove Global Climate Change.


25 posted on 02/11/2012 4:34:58 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; TenthAmendmentChampion; SolitaryMan; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; grey_whiskers; ...
Thanx again for the ping Ernest_at_the_Beach !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

26 posted on 02/11/2012 4:37:27 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Expel the Occupy White House squatters !!!)
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To: TomGuy

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The Cooling World

Newsweek, April 28, 1975

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There are ominous signs that the Earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production – with serious political implications for just about every nation on Earth. The drop in food output could begin quite soon, perhaps only 10 years from now. The regions destined to feel its impact are the great wheat-producing lands of Canada and the U.S.S.R. in the North, along with a number of marginally self-sufficient tropical areas – parts of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indochina and Indonesia – where the growing season is dependent upon the rains brought by the monsoon.

The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologists are hard-pressed to keep up with it. In England, farmers have seen their growing season decline by about two weeks since 1950, with a resultant overall loss in grain production estimated at up to 100,000 tons annually. During the same time, the average temperature around the equator has risen by a fraction of a degree – a fraction that in some areas can mean drought and desolation. Last April, in the most devastating outbreak of tornadoes ever recorded, 148 twisters killed more than 300 people and caused half a billion dollars’ worth of damage in 13 U.S. states.

To scientists, these seemingly disparate incidents represent the advance signs of fundamental changes in the world’s weather. The central fact is that after three quarters of a century of extraordinarily mild conditions, the earth’s climate seems to be cooling down. Meteorologists disagree about the cause and extent of the cooling trend, as well as over its specific impact on local weather conditions. But they are almost unanimous in the view that the trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century. If the climatic change is as profound as some of the pessimists fear, the resulting famines could be catastrophic. “A major climatic change would force economic and social adjustments on a worldwide scale,” warns a recent report by the National Academy of Sciences, “because the global patterns of food production and population that have evolved are implicitly dependent on the climate of the present century.”

A survey completed last year by Dr. Murray Mitchell of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reveals a drop of half a degree in average ground temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere between 1945 and 1968. According to George Kukla of Columbia University, satellite photos indicated a sudden, large increase in Northern Hemisphere snow cover in the winter of 1971-72. And a study released last month by two NOAA scientists notes that the amount of sunshine reaching the ground in the continental U.S. diminished by 1.3% between 1964 and 1972.

To the layman, the relatively small changes in temperature and sunshine can be highly misleading. Reid Bryson of the University of Wisconsin points out that the Earth’s average temperature during the great Ice Ages was only about seven degrees lower than during its warmest eras – and that the present decline has taken the planet about a sixth of the way toward the Ice Age average. Others regard the cooling as a reversion to the “little ice age” conditions that brought bitter winters to much of Europe and northern America between 1600 and 1900 – years when the Thames used to freeze so solidly that Londoners roasted oxen on the ice and when iceboats sailed the Hudson River almost as far south as New York City.

Just what causes the onset of major and minor ice ages remains a mystery. “Our knowledge of the mechanisms of climatic change is at least as fragmentary as our data,” concedes the National Academy of Sciences report. “Not only are the basic scientific questions largely unanswered, but in many cases we do not yet know enough to pose the key questions.”

Meteorologists think that they can forecast the short-term results of the return to the norm of the last century. They begin by noting the slight drop in overall temperature that produces large numbers of pressure centers in the upper atmosphere. These break up the smooth flow of westerly winds over temperate areas. The stagnant air produced in this way causes an increase in extremes of local weather such as droughts, floods, extended dry spells, long freezes, delayed monsoons and even local temperature increases – all of which have a direct impact on food supplies.

“The world’s food-producing system,” warns Dr. James D. McQuigg of NOAA’s Center for Climatic and Environmental Assessment, “is much more sensitive to the weather variable than it was even five years ago.” Furthermore, the growth of world population and creation of new national boundaries make it impossible for starving peoples to migrate from their devastated fields, as they did during past famines.

Climatologists are pessimistic that political leaders will take any positive action to compensate for the climatic change, or even to allay its effects. They concede that some of the more spectacular solutions proposed, such as melting the Arctic ice cap by covering it with black soot or diverting arctic rivers, might create problems far greater than those they solve. But the scientists see few signs that government leaders anywhere are even prepared to take the simple measures of stockpiling food or of introducing the variables of climatic uncertainty into economic projections of future food supplies. The longer the planners delay, the more difficult will they find it to cope with climatic change once the results become grim reality.

—PETER GWYNNE with bureau reports

(A PDF of the original is available here.)

27 posted on 02/11/2012 4:46:04 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Telepathic Intruder

I can only kick myself. I saw this coming, but did not investigate how to get on the short side of carbon credits.

The perfect scam, totally debunked.

What made it so outrageous and transparent, is that the western world was expected to unilaterally de-carbon, and China, India and Russia would have no part and for them, business as usual. China, even going so far as building a coal plant a week!

The perfect scam, just begging to be shorted.

As one trader said, the average person gets only about 12 sure trades a lifetime, and this was one of them for me.

Just so sorry I missed it!


28 posted on 02/11/2012 4:47:00 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Lancey Howard

“Climatologists are pessimistic that political leaders will take any positive action to compensate for the climatic change, or even to allay its effects. They concede that some of the more spectacular solutions proposed, such as melting the Arctic ice cap by covering it with black soot or diverting arctic rivers, might create problems far greater than those they solve. But the scientists see few signs that government leaders anywhere are even prepared to take the simple measures of stockpiling food or of introducing the variables of climatic uncertainty into economic projections of future food supplies. The longer the planners delay, the more difficult will they find it to cope with climatic change once the results become grim reality.”

I remember this scare. The important thing to consider here is that it was not agenda-driven - rather it was just data that they saw, and got worried about. But now it’s much different - the people on the Global Warming bandwagon are the exact same ones that have been trying for decades to shut down our economy (and worse). How ANYONE can trust ANYTHING they claim is beyond me...but not really - it’s often very difficult for good people (i.e., conservatives) to recognize PURE EVIL when it’s right in front of them. That takes strength...and conservatives, in large part, do not have that strength.


29 posted on 02/11/2012 5:13:02 PM PST by BobL (I don't care about his past - Santorum will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
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To: cripplecreek

It was a FAD—an expensive gimmicky fraud based on a desire for power and money. It didn’t work because it wasn’t true. Sort of like the Nazi race thingy and the New Communist Man. Time to stick a fork in it and call it done.


30 posted on 02/11/2012 5:15:09 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
Time to stick a fork in it and call it done.

I'll do that when my power company dumps their stupid idea for building a wind farm and builds the coal fired plants they decided against last summer.
31 posted on 02/11/2012 5:18:48 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
I'll do that when my power company dumps their stupid idea for building a wind farm and builds the coal fired plants they decided against last summer.

Your power company is mandated by Washington to do many stupid things, one of them is build so much green energy. It would otherwise not be economical in 2012, without the federal subsidies.

32 posted on 02/11/2012 5:54:59 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: The_Media_never_lie

The sad thing is that my power company spent a decade and millions of dollars getting approval for the new coal fired plants only to shelve them a matter of months after getting final approval.


33 posted on 02/11/2012 5:59:18 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
My power company did likewise, purchased the site, bought substation steel, bought the generator etc., and probably spent 10s of millions (maybe 20 million), only to cancel and sell everything except the site, probably at pennies on the dollar.

They may have even sold the generating unit to China.

This is beyond stupid. And it goes unreported......go figure?

34 posted on 02/11/2012 6:09:15 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I was watching this program on National Geographic (I think) and it was talking about a disaster in Africa where an old volcano suddenly released a humongous pocket of CO2 out of the lake (and I know it was when the mentioned it several times) which killed all of the inhabitants in the localized area. The narrator said this happened because “CO2 is heavier than oxygen.”

So, this completely blew the Warmist’s theory out of the water!


35 posted on 02/11/2012 6:18:36 PM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Time to invest in the Pet Rock market.


36 posted on 02/11/2012 6:25:42 PM PST by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Life in a silicon world.. a sad day indeed ..

just saw this too..

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2845500/posts

Whitney Houston, superstar of records, films, dies

48 and gone.. she processed more coke than a steel plant running on overtime


37 posted on 02/11/2012 6:41:25 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I wonder if Al Gore is on a Pepcid AC diet at this point. :)


38 posted on 02/11/2012 6:59:14 PM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: boop

LOL. My best friend’s hubbie bought into that craze. All I would tell him...they’re BEAN BAGS for God’s sakes. She recently found a plastic bag of the dang things and I have a shark sitting near my desk...for those clients who are late paying their fees. Lol


39 posted on 02/11/2012 7:29:54 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (Waiting for the new tagline to download)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

bfl


40 posted on 02/11/2012 7:49:40 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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