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Sheriff Joe Arpaio 'Eligibility' Press Conference at 3pm ET, Live Thread
World Net Daily ^ | 01 March 2012

Posted on 03/01/2012 11:52:29 AM PST by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs

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To: Girlene

Even so, if this is proven a false document...then what and whose going to take it on further? I just don’t see this going further at this stage of the game...unless they can somehow use this to stop all the stuff Obamas put thru in his administration.


101 posted on 03/01/2012 12:30:22 PM PST by caww
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
Key Witness in Presidential Passport Tampering Case Murdered in 2008, No Arrests
On April 8, 2008, Obama confessed to having taken a trip to Pakistan in 1981. Here is what Obama said - Jake Tapper was there:
"So when I speak about having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa --knowing the leaders is not important -- what I know is the people...I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college -- I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee."
... Much speculation has been made about what national passport Obama used when he traveled to Pakistan in 1981.
So Obama confessed to this trip two weeks after his passport was tampered with.


.... A key witness in a federal probe into passport information stolen from the State Department was fatally shot in front of a District church, the Metropolitan Police Department said yesterday. Lt. Quarles Harris Jr., 24, who had been cooperating with a federal investigators, was found late Thursday night slumped dead inside a car, in front of the Judah House Praise Baptist Church in Northeast, said Cmdr. Michael Anzallo, head of the department's Criminal Investigations Division.
Cmdr. Anzallo said a police officer was patrolling the neighborhood when gunshots were heard, then Lt. Harris was found dead inside the vehicle, which investigators would describe only as a blue car."


"Mysterious Dead Person Connected To 2008 Elections
The Washington Times reported April 5 that contractors for the State Department had improperly accessed passport information
for presidential candidates Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton, Barack Obama and John McCain, which resulted in a series of firings that reached into the agency's top ranks."



102 posted on 03/01/2012 12:30:52 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs

Using a page from Little Red Riding Hood! Someone has a sense of humor.


103 posted on 03/01/2012 12:31:06 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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“In fact, absent the authentication of Hawaii Department of Health 1961 birth records for Barack Obama, there is no other proof he was born anywhere within the United States.”

http://is.gd/555pSe


104 posted on 03/01/2012 12:31:45 PM PST by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: WashingtonSource

Date stamp and registrar’s stamp were brought in to make it appear to be authentic!


105 posted on 03/01/2012 12:32:23 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: caww

I think they may have in mind having Ø declared ineligible to appear on the ballot in AZ, hence starting a snowball effect in other states.


106 posted on 03/01/2012 12:33:19 PM PST by tomkat (FUbo)
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To: Diogenesis
Here is the pic of the person who made the BC document:

DERP

107 posted on 03/01/2012 12:33:50 PM PST by GraceG
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To: tomkat

OK so is it safe to say this was why Obummer spent so much on legal fees in court..........because the BC is a fraud...


108 posted on 03/01/2012 12:33:56 PM PST by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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Attempts to optimize the BC should have resulted in more than 9 layers. When they tried to optimize the document it ended up with 45 layers.

The date and register stamp are linked and appear to have been imported from outside sources....if these are fraudulent, the whole document is fraudulent.


109 posted on 03/01/2012 12:34:02 PM PST by Girlene (RIP, Andrew, You're no longer under fire)
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To: OafOfOffice

The fact the date stamp and registrar’s stamp have been imported. It was laid on a white background with green safety paper filled in. That is not the way under any law I’m aware of that you authenticate a document. THerefore it is a fraud. “This is serious. This is very serious.” We advised Sheriff Arpaiso “we believe we have a forgery.”


110 posted on 03/01/2012 12:34:42 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs

The “technical experts” are a bunch of amateurs. Their conclusions are correct, but the terminology is mis-applied and confusing. What they realy mean is that the documents have been doctored by overlaying editable “coded text data” onto “image data” that is not character oriented and impractical to attempt to edit.


111 posted on 03/01/2012 12:34:59 PM PST by balls (0 lies like a Muslim (Google "taqiyya"))
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To: tomkat

INS records from PM-AM, MWAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!


112 posted on 03/01/2012 12:35:59 PM PST by GraceG
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
WorldNetDaily is involved in this?

Uh oh..........those whackos are a guarantee of tinfoil nuttiness.

113 posted on 03/01/2012 12:35:59 PM PST by marshmallow (.)
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To: balls

HERE IT COMES!


114 posted on 03/01/2012 12:36:05 PM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: WashingtonSource

Green safety background was added after.


115 posted on 03/01/2012 12:36:45 PM PST by matt04
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To: GraceG

“The document has failed every test we put it through”. They are proclaiming it a forgery. I also know that there is a misspelled word in the registrar’s stamp, “ABSTRACT OF TXE RECORD”..., note the “TXE”.


116 posted on 03/01/2012 12:37:03 PM PST by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: tomkat

well every test they put the document of his birth thru it FAILED...it’s a false document. So maybe this will work to keep him off the ballot....then other states might follow?

Long shot...but at this point nothing really to loose if they tried this...but will it be in time?


117 posted on 03/01/2012 12:37:03 PM PST by caww
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To: balls

Microfilm copies of INS records of every individual coming in from overseas. The National Archive gave them 685 rolls from 10 years. We asked Mr. Corsi to view them. He went in looking for August 1961, birth month of President. Mr. Corsi got to August 1 to August 7, those records disappeared from the microfm. Picked up on Aug 8 and continued on. We asked archives why this occurreed. To date they do not. What doeso that translate. We don’t know if Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Obama as an infant came into the country. We have to entertain information he was possibly born abroad.


118 posted on 03/01/2012 12:37:29 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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Investigation requested ins records of microfilm copies of photos coming in to (from? - didn’t catch it) Kenya for 10 years. Mr. Corsi looked into records for August, 1961. Records from Aug. 1 - 7 were gone.


119 posted on 03/01/2012 12:37:54 PM PST by Girlene (RIP, Andrew, You're no longer under fire)
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs

WOW microfilm dates missing..............................


120 posted on 03/01/2012 12:38:01 PM PST by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: caww

Selective Service Registration Card. Was it received on July 29 on July, 1980. They reviewed date stamps. All contained four digits. A standard stamp used in 1980s area. Had to be changed daily monthly yearly. These are used by U.S. Post Office. Two are from same post office where BO turned in his aper work. They contain four digits (1980) for the year. BO’s only contains two digits (80).


121 posted on 03/01/2012 12:39:55 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: balls

and what do you think happened to the missing INS documents from the National Archives, that just happened to be from the first week of August 1961?


122 posted on 03/01/2012 12:40:02 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: blueyon

Lol Obama’s SSN and Selective service is bullshit.


123 posted on 03/01/2012 12:40:32 PM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: blueyon

The took at 2008 stamp, cut out the 20 and turned the 08 upside down to make it 80!


124 posted on 03/01/2012 12:40:41 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs

I’m going to be attacked for this, but I really hope they have more evidence than this “faked” birth certificate powerpoint.

If you google OCR software, there are literally hundreds of different ways to apply it, what with the different software packages that can be used, and the various settings that can be applied. The same goes for optimization. They make it sound like there’s only one way of applying OCR and optimization, and because they didn’t get the same results when they tested it using their software and options, it “proves” that it’s a forgery? I thought only libs faked experimental data to get the result they wanted.


125 posted on 03/01/2012 12:41:19 PM PST by krobara18
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To: All

They’ve begun addressing the Selective Service issue ... showing that the date stamp on Ø’s registration form contains only two digits for the year .. asserting that a 2008 stamp was cut in half, and that the 08 was inverted and used as ‘80’ on Ø’s form.


126 posted on 03/01/2012 12:41:27 PM PST by tomkat (FUbo)
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To: struggle

The Selective Service Card is not just forged but it is poorly forged.


127 posted on 03/01/2012 12:41:49 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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Selective Service Registration card - comparing the year date stamp for 1980 to other date stamps from that Post Office - obama’s only had two digits for the year, while others for that PO for that year showed four digits (1980)They show how the pica date stamp was likely 2008, inverted and cut off to look like 80.

lolol - this was a really bad forgery.


128 posted on 03/01/2012 12:44:02 PM PST by Girlene (RIP, Andrew, You're no longer under fire)
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To: krobara18

We do not have a single document the proves Mr. Obama’s birth in Hawaii or anywhere else in the United States. We have to see some more information. We would like to see hospital records. We would like to see microfilm. A single roll of microfilm is not enough. It needs to be age tested. We’d like to see documentation Hawaii has. We advise this should be a full-blown criminal investigation. A crime has been committee in Maricopa County and Arizona.


129 posted on 03/01/2012 12:44:02 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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Joe’s been advised to open a ‘full blown criminal investigation’


130 posted on 03/01/2012 12:44:18 PM PST by tomkat (FUbo)
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To: Girlene

We have identify a person of interest in the forgery incident.


131 posted on 03/01/2012 12:44:40 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: WashingtonSource

“Identified a person of interest...”


132 posted on 03/01/2012 12:45:03 PM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs

Person of Interested identified as the forger of the birth certificate, but not identified at the moment.


133 posted on 03/01/2012 12:45:11 PM PST by NowApproachingMidnight (“Civilizations die from suicide, not murder.")
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To: tomkat

Effing outstanding.


134 posted on 03/01/2012 12:45:16 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: WashingtonSource

They want a full fledged investigation for this fakery.

Under review he said.

By the time all interested parties ‘review’ this stuff...and stall it along the way...the election will be here and over.

So what’s the point again?


135 posted on 03/01/2012 12:45:18 PM PST by caww
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To: tomkat

Corsi says Andrew Breitbaret interviewed Sheriff Arpaio last night!


136 posted on 03/01/2012 12:46:04 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: WashingtonSource

That person better get some serious personal security. They are almost assuredly about to ‘disappear’. Now I’m REALLY suspicious about Breitbart’s death. OMG...


137 posted on 03/01/2012 12:46:19 PM PST by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: caww

Well, bloody hell. Breitbart interviewed Arpaio yesterday evening?


138 posted on 03/01/2012 12:46:40 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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Says they have identified a person of interest in the forgery of the BC and have (or will?) turn that name over to Sheriff Joe.

Corsi on expressing sadness over Andrew Brietbart’s death.


139 posted on 03/01/2012 12:46:55 PM PST by Girlene (RIP, Andrew, You're no longer under fire)
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To: caww

The point is to create doubt and let people know what we can determine now before the election. Better than nothing being done.


140 posted on 03/01/2012 12:47:38 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: Lucky9teen

If you “visit” WND to get the report, you have to sign up to have it emailed to you.

That email “sign-up” also makes Google your homepage - and it will be the devil to get rid of.

The report arrivedf in email; is programmed to not allow it to be printed.

NOT pleased with WND.


141 posted on 03/01/2012 12:47:44 PM PST by GGMac ((lesson learned re Obie: parse every sentence, every word, every gesture, every photo))
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To: tomkat

I saw that!!

WHOA!!

Dude does an interview, then dies a couple hours later!!


142 posted on 03/01/2012 12:47:50 PM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: Girlene

They have a perp suspect???? This is unbelievable. Not what I expected at all.


143 posted on 03/01/2012 12:48:14 PM PST by ponygirl
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To: combat_boots

The better take the “person of interest” into custody for his/her own protection.


144 posted on 03/01/2012 12:48:14 PM PST by Never on my watch (I'd rather light a candle than curse the flatulence.)
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To: combat_boots

Well looks that way....hope what they discussed is known and protected by trusted patriots?


145 posted on 03/01/2012 12:48:30 PM PST by caww
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To: combat_boots

Yes. Amazing. It was done by phone. Probably Breitbart’s last interview.


146 posted on 03/01/2012 12:48:30 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: caww

My thoughts exactly. This person of interest will be dead within 24 hours without protection.


147 posted on 03/01/2012 12:50:11 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: combat_boots

Perhaps if we knew ALL that Breitbart discovered last night with Arpaio we’d all have heart attacks too. This press conference is very upsetting. These are seasoned investigators who are calling it as they see it. The magnitude of the significance of this cannot be overstated. It’s downright historic.


148 posted on 03/01/2012 12:50:25 PM PST by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: NowApproachingMidnight
Person of Interested identified as the forger of the birth certificate, but not identified at the moment.


Thank God we have Sheriff Arpaio - one who hasn't been corrupted....

The County Sheriff:The Ultimate Check & Balance

When the United States of America was founded the framers spent arduous hours devising a Constitution that would protect future generations from tyranny and government criminality. A system of checks and balances was established to keep all government, especially at the federal level, from becoming too powerful and abusive.

The Bill of Rights was promulgated to augment the limitations previously placed against the government, to further insure that government would stay in its proper domain.

So, what happens when government does not obey its own constitution? What punishment is meted out to politicians who vote for and pass unconstitutional laws? What happens if they appoint unlawful bureaucracies or allow their agents to violate the rights of the American citizen? The answer to these questions is both astounding and lamentable; NOTHING!

Now the question becomes even greater; who will stop criminal and out-of-control government from killing, abusing, violating, robbing, and destroying its own people? Yes, believe it or not, there is an answer to this one. The duty to stop such criminality lies with the county sheriff. The question needs to be posed to each and every sheriff of these United States; will you stand against tyranny?

The office of sheriff has a long and noble history. It dates back over a thousand years and originated in England. The sheriff is the only elected law enforcement official in America. He is the last line of defense for his citizens. He is the people's protector. He is the keeper of the peace, he is the guardian of liberty and the protector of rights. A vast majority of sheriffs will agree with all of this until they are asked to apply these principles of protection to federal criminals. Their backpeddling and excuses will be more plentiful than radar tickets and louder than sirens at doughnut time. Most of the unbelievers, who themselves have taken a solemn oath to "uphold and defend" the U S Constitution, will passionately and even apologetically exclaim that they have no authority or jurisdiction to tell federal agents to do anything, let alone stop them from victimizing local citizens. The truth and stark reality is that it's just the opposite; the sheriff has ultimate authority and law enforcement power within his jurisdiction. He is to protect and defend his citizens from all enemies, both "foreign and domestic."

Of course, there are those who will maintain that the feds have not and will not commit crimes against law-abiding citizens in this country, the IRS notwithstanding. For the sake of argument, let's just pretend that the government did nothing wrong at the Branch Davidian church in Waco or at Ruby Ridge, Idaho when citizens were killed. Those incidents have been debated and will be forever. However, the immutable truth about both tragedies remains that if the local sheriff had remained in charge of both incidents, not one person would have died, including federal agents, and the law would still have been enforced.

Despite the frequency or the severity of government abuses, if they were to happen in your county, would your sheriff intervene? Well, don't look now, but they are already occurring and some sheriffs have indeed taken very courageous stands against the feds coming in to their counties to "enforce" their laws. Cattle, lands, homes, bank accounts, cash, and even children have been seized and prisons filled all in the name of federal enforcement of EPA rules, The Endangered Species Act, IRS rules, (of which there are over 10 million pages) Forest Service and Dept. of the Interior technicalities and the list goes on and on. The sheriff of NYE County, Nevada stopped federal agents from seizing a rancher's cattle and even threatened to arrest the feds if they proceeded against his orders. Sheriffs in Wyoming have told the agents of all federal bureaus to check with them before serving any papers, making any arrests, or confiscating any property. Why? because they are doing their jobs that's why! It's just another way to provide checks and balances that ultimately protect and help citizens.

Criminality within the IRS has been well documented. Hearings about such crimes were held before congress in 1998. IRS employees testified of hundreds of crimes being committed against law-abiding citizens. Congress did nothing about it. They were too busy checking Monica Lewinsky's dress. The point remains, if any abuse occurs in your county by federal officials; does your sheriff have the guts and the authority to protect and defend you? Does that question not sound redundant? Is he not bound by oath to do just that?

Yes, he has the right and the duty to do so. In Mack/Printz v USA, the U S Supreme Court declared that the states or their political subdivisions, "are not subject to federal direction." The issue of federal authority is defined even further in this most powerful Tenth Amendment decision. The two sheriffs who brought the suit objected to being forced into federal service without compensation pursuant to some misguided provisions of the Brady Bill. The sheriffs sued the USA (Clinton adm.) and won a major landmark case in favor of States' Rights and local autonomy. In this ruling by the Supreme Court, some amazing principles were exposed regarding the lack of power and authority the federal government actually has. In fact, this is exactly the issue addressed by the court when Justice Scalia opined for the majority stating, "...the Constitution's conferral upon Congress of not all governmental powers, but only discreet, enumerated ones."

Scalia then quotes the basis of the sheriffs' suit in quoting the Tenth Amendment which affirms the limited powers doctrine, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution...are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." To clarify this point, we need to understand that the powers and jurisdiction granted to the federal government are few, precise, and expressly defined. The feds have their assignments within constitutional boundaries and the states have theirs, as well. Scalia also mentions this, "It is incontestable that the Constitution established a system of dual sovereignty" and that the states retained "a residuary and inviolable sovereignty." Scalia even goes so far as to detail who is responsible to keep the federal government in their proper place, if or when they decide to go beyond their allotted authority. In doing so he quotes James Madison, considered to be the father of our Constitution, "The local or municipal authorities form distinct and independent portions of the supremacy, no more subject, within their respective spheres, to the general authority [federal government] than the general authority is subject to them, within its own sphere." (The Federalist # 39) Thus, the federal government has no more authority to compel the states or the counties to do anything, no more so than the Prime Minister of Canada has.

But what happens when the inevitable occurs; when the feds get too abusive and attempt to control every facet of our lives? The Mack/Printz decision answers this also. "This separation of the two spheres is one of the constitution's structural protections of liberty. Just as the separation and independence of the coordinate branches of the federal government serve to prevent the accumulation of excessive power in any one branch, a healthy balance of power between the States and the Federal Government will reduce the risk of tyranny and abuse from either front." To quote Madison again Scalia writes, "Hence, a double security arises to the rights of the people. The different governments will control each other, at the same time that each will be controlled by itself." (The Federalist # 51) So the state governments are actually and literally charged with controlling the federal government. To do so is "one of the Constitution's structural protections of liberty."

Yes, it is regrettable that a sheriff would be put in this position. The governor and the state legislature should be preventing federal invasions into the states and counties way before the sheriff, but if it comes to the sheriff, then he must take a firm stand. James Madison also said, "We can safely rely on the disposition of state legislatures to erect barriers against the encroachments of the national authority." So when the state legislatures go along to get along and are bought off by political cronyism or the disbursement of federal funds, then the sheriff becomes the ultimate check and balance.

It is time for the sworn protectors of liberty, the sheriffs of these United States of America, to walk tall and defend us from all enemies; foreign and domestic. When sheriffs are put in the quandary of choosing between enforcing statutes from vapid politicians or keeping their oaths of office, the path and choice is clear, "I solemnly swear or affirm, that I will protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
149 posted on 03/01/2012 12:50:57 PM PST by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: combat_boots
Wow, how sad for Breitbart his family and our country, he stuck his neck out for the truth.
150 posted on 03/01/2012 12:51:36 PM PST by opentalk
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