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Was Breitbart LEGALLY Assassinated?
vanity | 3/4/12 | null and void

Posted on 03/04/2012 8:28:17 AM PST by null and void

If Breitbart was assassinated, it could be perfectly legal under current US laws and policy.

CIA Lawyers Maintains Citizens Could be Targets if they are at War With the U.S.
December 1, 2011

The Associated Press has reported that top national security lawyers in the Obama administration have determined that U.S. citizens are legitimate military targets when they take up arms with al-Qaeda.

Answering questions at a national security conference Thursday about the CIA killing of Anwar al-Alwaki, a radical American-born Muslim cleric who Obama descirbed as "the leader of external operations for Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula”.

Al-Alwaki had been killed in a September 30 U.S. drone strike led by the CIA in the mountains of Yemen. The radical, whos fiery sermons made him a larger-than-life figure in the world of Jihad, had long eluded capture by CIA and Yemeni security operatives.

However, in 2011, after days of surveillance, the New York Times reported, armed drones operated by the CIA took off from a new secret American base in the Arabian Peninsula, crossed into the northern Yemen border and rained a barrage of Hellfire missiles at a car carrying al-Alwaki and other top operatives from Al-Qaeda's branch in Yemen.

According to the AP, the government lawyers - CIA counsel Stephen Preston and Pentagon counsel Jeh Johnson - did not directly address the al-Alwaki case. But they said U.S. citizens don't have immunity when they're at war with the United States.

Johnson said only the executive branch, not the courts, are equipped to make decisions about who qualifies as an enemy, the AP reported.

What is a weapon?

Is someone who threatened to end the Obama presidency "at war" with the U.S. in the eyes of the president?

IF the president determined that Andrew Breitbart's release of video of his college days would threaten his presidency, and
IF the president believes his presidency is essential to the continuation of the US government,
THEN the president would be OBLIGATED to remove the threat.

As such he would be required, in his own mind, to issue a presidential finding that Andrew Beritbart needs to be eliminated before the videos are released.

The CIA, would legally be bound to follow the presidential directive and eliminate the threat in a timely fashion.

After all, destabilizing the US government is an act of war, and in perfect alignment with al Qaeda's goals, isn't it? Isn't it?

Although some of us old fashioned folks, bitterly clinging to the Constitution, might argue that it is a freedom of speech issue…


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KEYWORDS: andrewbreitbart; breitbartautopsy; breitbartdeath; defenseact
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1 posted on 03/04/2012 8:28:18 AM PST by null and void
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To: null and void

Can we let the autopsy conclude first and until then, let the poor man rest in peace.


2 posted on 03/04/2012 8:29:16 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

Of course.

A government that murders one of its own citizens can absolutely be trusted to release accurate autopsy results, can’t it?...


3 posted on 03/04/2012 8:31:08 AM PST by null and void (Day 1138 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: null and void

Why didn’t he have personal security?

Surely anyone making the claims that he did understands that they are targets.


4 posted on 03/04/2012 8:31:27 AM PST by COUNTrecount (Barry...above his poi grade.)
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To: null and void

If this is true, this would make Watergate, Iran Contra and the Tea-Pot scandal combined look like a petty crime in comparison.


5 posted on 03/04/2012 8:31:55 AM PST by Nowhere Man (Send Obama back to the ghetto, November 6th.)
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To: null and void
A government that murders one of its own citizens can absolutely be trusted to release accurate autopsy results, can’t it?...

Just hope they are not having Fanny Malik do the autopsy. B-P
6 posted on 03/04/2012 8:33:25 AM PST by Nowhere Man (Send Obama back to the ghetto, November 6th.)
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To: mnehring

Interesting the media was claiming his death was of natural causes before an autopsy was conducted. Perhaps an Operation Mockingbird disinformation operation.


7 posted on 03/04/2012 8:34:11 AM PST by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: Nowhere Man

IF it’s true. I’m speculating based on knowing the law and the actors.

If it is actually legal, there is no there there.

(Although there should be!)


8 posted on 03/04/2012 8:34:11 AM PST by null and void (Day 1138 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: null and void

Wish we had Sheriff Arpaio’s coroner doing this work.


9 posted on 03/04/2012 8:34:31 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: null and void
A government that murders one of its own citizens can absolutely be trusted to release accurate autopsy results, can’t it?...

Almost as much as internet conspiracy theorists.

10 posted on 03/04/2012 8:35:18 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Nowhere Man

All of those things are petty scandals compared to what Barrack Obama and this administration and the democrat in congress have done to this country!


11 posted on 03/04/2012 8:35:25 AM PST by A. Morgan (Ayn Rand: "You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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To: mnehring

We will never know the real results of an autopsy, as that would be piece of cake for the killers!


12 posted on 03/04/2012 8:36:19 AM PST by jacob allen
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To: FightThePower!
Interesting the media was claiming his death was of natural causes before an autopsy was conducted.

Yep. Not "APPARENT natural causes", flat out natural causes...

13 posted on 03/04/2012 8:36:27 AM PST by null and void (Day 1138 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: FightThePower!
Perhaps an Operation Mockingbird disinformation operation.

Of course, our "educated" friends at Occupy won't understand that, since they likely read crap like "The Sexual Politics of Meat" while in college for 6 years racking up 300 thousand in student loan debt.

And yes, that's a real book, sadly....

14 posted on 03/04/2012 8:36:37 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: null and void; Eaker; Absolutely Nobama; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ...
Dear fellow FReepers,

Please read (and save) my damning "J'accuse" of the Obama regime, Murdergate, and the liberal media establishment.

Gangster Government, And Sakharov's Immunity.

I wrote it one day before the "death by natural causes" of Andrew Breitbart, while he was taking a walk alone near his home.

15 posted on 03/04/2012 8:36:42 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: null and void

Really ridiculous post. Perhaps at least wait till the autopsy results are in before tossing out silly conspiracy theories?


16 posted on 03/04/2012 8:37:25 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: null and void

Soros global governance agenda was also threatened by sunlight from Breitbart, same with the unions. They need Obama and current establishment to thrive.


17 posted on 03/04/2012 8:37:53 AM PST by opentalk
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To: COUNTrecount
Why didn’t he have personal security?

Surely anyone making the claims that he did understands that they are targets.

We'll never know. Perhaps he thought he was immune? Perhaps he couldn't afford it?

18 posted on 03/04/2012 8:38:35 AM PST by null and void (Day 1138 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: null and void

We were told in the news that he died of natural causes. How did they know that?


19 posted on 03/04/2012 8:41:02 AM PST by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: null and void

Somebody should file a FOIA on Breitbart and see if the FBI had a file on him...


20 posted on 03/04/2012 8:41:21 AM PST by Beaten Valve
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To: Nowhere Man

If it is murder, then we have become a third world country where people who speak out or threaten the body government are killed.
If it is true,then we are all targets. It would be time to take proactive steps


21 posted on 03/04/2012 8:41:50 AM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: null and void

I have it from a double-secret source that Breitbart was actually struck by a remnant fragment from comet Elenin.


22 posted on 03/04/2012 8:42:50 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: bmwcyle

We were told in the news that he died of natural causes. How did they know that?


Otherwise they would have said “there’s no evidence of terrorism”.


23 posted on 03/04/2012 8:43:16 AM PST by OwenKellogg (Gingrich / Robinson 2012!)
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To: Travis McGee

I’m reading it, saving it, posting it elsehwere, and hub is going to print it out and take it to some guys at the fire station.


24 posted on 03/04/2012 8:43:45 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: Nowhere Man

BTW Iran Contra wasn’t any kind of a crime.


25 posted on 03/04/2012 8:43:53 AM PST by skeeter
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To: C. Edmund Wright; null and void
It wouldn't matter who is doing the autopsy as there are drugs that can't be "found".

If it was a "hit", it was perfect and no one will ever know. Anyone even questioning it will be labeled a nut. He had heart issues, right? Right? Perfect.

26 posted on 03/04/2012 8:44:15 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: null and void

I was surprised to see this exact storyline on NBC’s “The Firm” (Chapter Nine) last night. A soldier returns home to find his son missing but knows that he is dead because he was on the phone with him at the time the son was ‘taken out’.

The soldier’s attempts to reach the truth were thwarted by the feds due to the ‘war on terror’ confidentiality. Who knows when any of us will be determined to be a terrorist and taken out without due process? The Constitution has died.


27 posted on 03/04/2012 8:44:42 AM PST by PuzzledInTX
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To: null and void
As I posted a few days ago, what better way to defuse suspicion than to exploit a known pre existing condition?

I'm not saying either way what happened to AB, I'm just saying that if I wanted to eliminate someone and I already knew he had a heart condition, what better way to off him then to “move” his condition along at a faster pace?

28 posted on 03/04/2012 8:45:50 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: Beaten Valve

Of course the FBI has a file on him - and I am not a conspiracy theorist in the least. Anyone who is in the public eye, runs media outlets, and is considered something of a rabble rouser will have an FBI file.


29 posted on 03/04/2012 8:45:56 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: null and void
Andrew Breitbart spent over a week in the hospital last year for heart related issues. This was confirmed by his #1 business partner. He had a history of heart problems.

He was a man that embraced and loved life, all aspects of it. He smoked too much, drank too much, tended towards corpulence and worked 20 hours a day.

‘The candle that burns twice as bright, burns half as long’ & Mr Breitbart burned as bright as a million candles.

He was not assassinated and any talk of that does a disservice to him and his adversaries.

30 posted on 03/04/2012 8:46:29 AM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Oh, you are right, but you are using a type B personality assessment of my very type A comment.

You assumed I literally meant I wanted Arpaio’s coroner doing the work. I did not. I was making a rhetorical point that I am not trusting of an elected coroner in a liberal part of the country necessarily. This is where OJ was exonerated after all.

You assumed I meant that a good coroner would necessarily find a murder in his examination. I never meant any such thing.

I was just having a rhetorical chat, not making a legal point.


31 posted on 03/04/2012 8:47:12 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Beaten Valve; LucyT

Excellent idea.


32 posted on 03/04/2012 8:47:24 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: null and void
Do NOT give an inch, nully.

My reply to a post on another thread:

To bring out the worst of FR and let the world laugh at all the conspiracists here?

It really is all right. To some people it is a coincidence. Some people don't like coincidence(s). Some people don't believe in coincidence.

Sure, Savage wants ratings and air time. But he is asking the questions that are in people's heads. On their mind.

I would prefer those questions be asked. I would prefer people voice their opinion.

Because the second you look down, stifle your voice, and just shuffle along, you are headed straight for the gulag.

LIVE FREE OR DIE.

33 posted on 03/04/2012 8:47:24 AM PST by bigheadfred
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To: OwenKellogg

Gee and Obama has the power to kill or detain Americans if they are terrorist. Oh that right, he said he would not use the new power he signed on New Years eve.


34 posted on 03/04/2012 8:48:58 AM PST by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: null and void
Breitbart had heart problems, his friends were aware of it, and he had been advised to change his un-healthy lifestyle.

He continued to live a hectic lifestyle with little sleep and he died young.

His hard-to-process death is a great loss but to claim he was "murdered" with poison darts, etc., (on another thread) makes no sense. Is it logical to think the "killer" would have known he was going to be out walking at midnight?

How would security protect from poison darts anyway?

Peter and the Wolf!

35 posted on 03/04/2012 8:49:17 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Longbow1969
Really ridiculous post. Perhaps at least wait till the autopsy results are in before tossing out silly conspiracy theories?

You are missing the point.

The point isn't whether Breitbart was assassinated, the point is that he could have been, and it would be perfectly legal!

Think that one through, would you?

36 posted on 03/04/2012 8:49:27 AM PST by null and void (Day 1138 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Beaten Valve
Somebody should file a FOIA on Breitbart and see if the FBI had a file on him...

There's no doubt The FBI has a file on Breitbart. The FBI has a file on you. And me.

37 posted on 03/04/2012 8:50:00 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: DJ MacWoW
This part is blood curdling:

Johnson said only the executive branch, not the courts, are equipped to make decisions about who qualifies as an enemy,

We are in the midst of a Revolution and those who could speak up and do something are silent or making fun of it and anyone who does speak up.

Hope things are looking up!

38 posted on 03/04/2012 8:50:38 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: Yorlik803
If it is murder, then we have become a third world country where people who speak out or threaten the body government are killed.

Ron Brown and Vince Foster come to mind.

39 posted on 03/04/2012 8:50:44 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: C. Edmund Wright; null and void

My point was that it doesn’t matter who does the autopsy.


40 posted on 03/04/2012 8:51:21 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: lonestar; Jim from C-Town

See post #36


41 posted on 03/04/2012 8:52:26 AM PST by null and void (Day 1138 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Jim from C-Town

With today’s pills you can extend people’s life with things that would have killed you 30 years ago. Just because he had the problems is not a absolute that he died from his issues. My father survived three major strokes and drove a car after them. It was the forth one that took him. Modern medicine extends life today. I would wait on your judgement.


42 posted on 03/04/2012 8:53:24 AM PST by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: Longbow1969

I think that ‘silly conspiracy theories” are just fine..they are a form of investigation prodding and vetting.

Twenty years ago we never would have thought about political assasinations everytime a politcal figure died suddenly. Times are strange now, and what was unthinkable 20-30 yrs ago....now is not so “weird”.


43 posted on 03/04/2012 8:54:43 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (NEWT in 2012)
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To: little jeremiah

Thanks. I believe “Gangster Government” is important, and it’s the entire reason for my “Operation #EFAD push over the past week.


44 posted on 03/04/2012 8:54:49 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: little jeremiah

Yes. The revolution is on and has been since Bam got in the WH. His Presidency is headed toward totalitarian with an advocate press. People had better wake up. Even on FR.


45 posted on 03/04/2012 8:55:11 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: null and void

If ‘they’ did do it, ‘we’ will never know.

If ‘they’ didn’t do it, many will still believe it anyway.

IMHO, God took Andrew because it was his time to go.

Whether they did it or not, the real issue is how they try to take advantage of it.

With all due respect to the death of Andrew Breitbart.
“The brightest stars burn the fastest”.


46 posted on 03/04/2012 8:55:20 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: null and void

All that came to mind when I read that he had died while walking was Marilyn Monroe and her very convenient suicide and the many deaths during the Clinton years, Arkacides.


47 posted on 03/04/2012 8:57:16 AM PST by Dustbunny ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. " Ronald Reagan)
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To: null and void
No.

Much as I would love to see such a conspiracy exposed, Andrew's heart was a ticking time bomb.

And it detonated.

48 posted on 03/04/2012 8:57:21 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopaths.)
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To: null and void
The Obama regime has already PROVEN itself capable of planning and executing coldly murderous programs, like Operation Fast And Furious, AKA

MURDERGATE.

The legality or otherwise of assassinating Andrew Breitbart with a puff of "Instant Heart Attack" by a "passer by" would just be irrelevant.

49 posted on 03/04/2012 8:57:23 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: little jeremiah
Johnson said only the executive branch, not the courts, are equipped to make decisions about who qualifies as an enemy,

Star Chamber ??

50 posted on 03/04/2012 8:57:27 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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