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Was Rush Wrong About What He Said, Or How He Said It?

Posted on 03/05/2012 7:18:01 AM PST by Why So Serious

I will start with, I did not hear either the student's testimony, or Rush's response. Nor do I care to listen to either. I know the two sides of the argument. Girl wants to have sex and thinks someone else should pay for her birth control. Rush thinks covering any part of the cost of the sex is what he said it is.

This is so stupid. I believe that golf is very therapeutic. Lord knows how relaxed I am when I am on the golf course [even when I am playing bad]. That said, tell me why my company's healthcare provider should not cover the cost of my tee time. Oh, and I love to have a glass of red wine when I get home in the evening. You know, it helps me unwind in the same therapeutic way. So I would also like to be able to purchase my wine using my prescription card. Need I tell you what tooling around on my pontoon boat does for me, in a therapeutic way?

I am sure that we can all make a short list of things we spend money on that more closely falls under the umbrella of health care than birth control pills.

I am in no way against a woman wanting to take birth control. In fact my wife did take it before we were married and for a while after we were married. Guess who paid for it? The person who should have.


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KEYWORDS: fluke; rush; sandrafluke; sandytheslut
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1 posted on 03/05/2012 7:18:03 AM PST by Why So Serious
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To: Why So Serious

Rush was wrong by being conservative and saying it. If we were liberal, he could have called her a C*unt and no one have noticed.


2 posted on 03/05/2012 7:22:37 AM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: Why So Serious
My take is Rush presented the slut and prostitute as an analogy. Ever notice how people take his words and twist them continuously?
3 posted on 03/05/2012 7:23:27 AM PST by hope
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To: Why So Serious

I have no doubt that before Rush said anything, he and his staff had planning meetings. Here they would discuss how to handle it in a way that entertained while, at the same time, kept or expanded listenership. They would have brainstormed what-if scenarios. They would have discussed using inflammatory remarks with a final goal in mind. And after all was said and done, they chose to go with the inflammatory accusation followed by the apology.

The real question is, was the apology part of the plan, or did they grossly miscalculate where the original remarks took us? I suspect it is the former, but the next couple of weeks will tell.


4 posted on 03/05/2012 7:23:56 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Why So Serious
Rush was very wrong in how he said this, because he took what should have been a great issue for conservatives, and blew it.

This woman clearly deserved to be attacked for her testimony on two grounds. First, she misrepresented the cost of birth control. Target has pointed out it has a store very near the campus where birth control pills only cost $9/month. She claimed they cost nearly $100. She could/should have been attacked as deliberately misrepresenting the cost of birth control to Congress and the public for political gain.

Second, she should have been attacked as an example of exactly why making it free is such a terrible idea. As an aspiring lawyer, she should know that your representative of your class should support your argument. But her personal circumstances and testimony was the opposite. She and her law school friends weren't unable to afford BC because of the cost. They actually were able to afford it and did pay for it themselves. They just wanted to spend that money on something else, and therefore wanted it subsidized. Imagine that --- people going to one of the best, more expensive law schools in the country, rather likely to end up as part of the 1%, expecting a $9/month handout so they can spend more money on concerts, beer, or other luxuries. Ridiculous.

But rather than hammer her on those grounds, which make her unsympathetic, Rush chose the slut route. Stupid.

5 posted on 03/05/2012 7:25:29 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Why So Serious

Did rush slip up in the language he used which allowed his opponents an unnecessary opening to demagogue? Sure he did. The next question is what can be done to change the terms of the debate away from rush’s language and back to the stupid policy this woman was pushing. We need to get off defense and back on offense.


6 posted on 03/05/2012 7:26:44 AM PST by plain talk
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To: Why So Serious

To even ask the question is to fall into the leftists’ trap.


7 posted on 03/05/2012 7:28:35 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Why So Serious

As I understand it, lots of insurance companies cover the cost of Viagra. Given that, I don’t think it is so odd—or in any way an indicator of “sluttiness”—for women to want prescription birth control to be covered as well.

The rightful question is whether and how much the federal government should be mandating what health insurance coverages.

IMO Rush was crass and offensive and he significantly hurt the conservative cause, because he both took the attention for the week running up to Super Tuesday off of Obama and the economy and he about finished up the Democrats’ work to get moderate, independent and casual Democrat woman voters fired up against the GOP for November.

Between Santorum and Rush, much of the Democrats’ work was effectively done for them.

I know that I’m in the distinct minority on FR for holding such opinions, but so it goes.


8 posted on 03/05/2012 7:29:09 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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Rush spent hours hitting the exact points you mentioned. He also used a very logical and substantive route to label what she is doing as the same as a prostitute or slut. The later was perfectly acceptable, but those lines took on a life of their own. He probably took it too far, or at the very least should have handled it differently knowing there was a risk of having it used for propaganda purposes. Never before has anything he done been successfully used against sponsors or political gains. We’ll see how it shakes out this time.


9 posted on 03/05/2012 7:29:19 AM PST by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: hope
I agree...It was an analogy...Lotta Dem prostitutes around (please look up the definition)...the media is loaded with them.

Now, let's see Fluck's bank account and who is paying her for her "testimony". Was she under oath??

10 posted on 03/05/2012 7:29:35 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Why So Serious

If fluke wants to talk like a slut or back a position that makes it easier for women to be sluts, then she is a slut. Rush was right.

The liberal socialists believe that freedom of speech only applies to them. They wish death on conservatives, call us sluts, whore, teabaggers, astroturf, wish us to be raped. The minute a conservative uses the same words they go insane.

Liberals do not own the country and we can say what we please when we please. They better get used to it.


11 posted on 03/05/2012 7:29:53 AM PST by mardi59 (I'm not looking for MTV, I'm looking for MVP. Newt 2012!)
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To: Why So Serious

While I chuckled and thought what he had to say was true, I’m afraid ol’ Rushy broke one of his own rules. “Don’t beat up on a girl.”


12 posted on 03/05/2012 7:30:18 AM PST by 1raider1
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To: 5thGenTexan

It was an inelegant verbal execution of a sentiment that was spot on.


13 posted on 03/05/2012 7:30:18 AM PST by VanDeKoik (If case you are wondering, I'm supporting Newt.)
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Since young women are having sex with abandon, the word, ‘slut’ no longer applies to anyone. Now, the word-of-the-day is hook-ups! Women go on the prowl to hook-up, and if they don’t find the right guy, the night is considered a failure. Of course, they don’t label themselves sluts...


14 posted on 03/05/2012 7:32:32 AM PST by Jaidyn
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To: cuban leaf

I don’t think he did the brain storming but its clear to me
that he should have had. As someone who knows he has a target painted on his back, he should know that every word
he utters is fair game for parsing by the Dark Side.


15 posted on 03/05/2012 7:33:21 AM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: Why So Serious

Rush....the word slut or whore was right. It was the reference that was, let’s say...misplaced. Fluke is and was a whore for the reason of prostituting herself for the big spenders on Capitol Hill. Plain and simple. The little tramp got her 15 minutes of fame and maybe got to sleep with some hot guy that suddenly was attracked to her fleeting fame. But really, she sold herself to a cause for cheap, fleeting fame.


16 posted on 03/05/2012 7:33:57 AM PST by free from tyranny
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“I have no doubt that before Rush said anything, he and his staff had planning meetings”

...nope. Rush works for himself. Nobody oversees his show and pre-approves anything. His staff does what he tells them to do. When/if he makes an error that may be costly is when the big wigs at Clear Channel step in. His entire future is based on credibilty. Standing by his remarks would’ve been the plan if there was one. This was said off the cuff. Once he said it, he knew he stepped in it.


17 posted on 03/05/2012 7:34:10 AM PST by albie
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To: Why So Serious; TXnMA; Jim Robinson; butterdezillion; TigersEye; RKBA Democrat

The Judges on an Opinion Test are the MSM Liberals who sit on the High Court of Public Opinion.

They alone have the power to flunk anyone who states, or writes, an opinion that is their very own. (One of the few tests where this is true).

The rulings by these High-Poo-Bah Judges are always swift, absolute and final.

BTW, aren’t these Judges rulings also opinions that are subject to THE TRUTH SQUAD here on Free Republic?


18 posted on 03/05/2012 7:34:51 AM PST by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Why So Serious

Telling the world a popular activity is sinful will not be without consequence.

Hey, one guy got nailed to a tree just for saying how great it would be to be nice to people for a change.


19 posted on 03/05/2012 7:35:46 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Why So Serious

Liberal women should put a $20 dollar bill in a large jar each time they have sex and then drop off said FULL jar to the the Center for Disease Control.


20 posted on 03/05/2012 7:38:32 AM PST by CainConservative (Santorum/Huck 2012 w/ Newt, Cain, Palin, Bach, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Petraeus in the Cabinet)
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