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Charge of the Metro brigade: Did Microsoft execs plan to take a hit?
The Register ^ | 15 March 2012 | Andrew Orlowski

Posted on 03/15/2012 10:22:26 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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To: tx_eggman
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21 posted on 03/15/2012 11:05:13 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Brass, copper, lead. The new precious metals.)
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To: Drill Thrawl

I’m running Office 97 on Win 7.

I really like the stability of Win 7 but hate the interface changes in Office.


22 posted on 03/15/2012 11:19:38 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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so reading between the lines, all computers will not move to touch screens.

I know MS was to be enabling kinect on desktop systems.


23 posted on 03/15/2012 11:24:09 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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oops typo...

will NOW move to touch screens.


24 posted on 03/15/2012 11:24:57 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
I use WinXP, Linux (Debian-like flavor), OSX Lion, and anything else they can throw my way at work. I use Win7 and just grabbed Win8 (first dev verision) at home.

I like Win8 already - even if it has a ton of features not implemented in my image.

Note: You can switch back to the "old" desktop in Win8 if you can't handle Metro. Personally, I like it but it's not too useful without a touchscreen. I'm going to test it out on a touchscreen laptop/tablet.

If Microsoft is successful in this, expect Apple's OS X+1 to do the same ... basically move toward their tablet and phone IOS.

25 posted on 03/15/2012 11:41:50 AM PDT by DesertSapper (ANY GOP candidate is better than 4 more years of 0bama!)
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To: ShadowAce

I remember when Gates was last at the helm when a major upgrade was taking place to Microsoft Office. He said he gave two directives: 1) do not change the file extensions, 2) do not change the menus.

I’ve gotten used to the ribbon but the file extension stuff is really annoying. xls, ppt, and doc are firmly ingrained into the heart of business. Virtually everything I create and receive are in still in xls, ppt, or doc even though we are using 2007 and 2010 version of Office. I for one miss Gates at the helm. Not a fan of Balmer in the least. Windows 8-no thanks...but I love 7.


26 posted on 03/15/2012 11:50:07 AM PDT by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: longtermmemmory

We have a Kinect at home. It is a fun toy and could be very useful for consumer applications but waving your hand in the air is not a high precission way to interact with a computer, even less precise than a fat finger on a touch screen.

I use a keyboard with my tablet most of the time because touch is good for a rough fast interaction but not good for precise data input.


27 posted on 03/15/2012 12:27:01 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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“You can switch back to the “old” desktop in Win8 if you can’t handle Metro”

No, you can’t. MS removed the Start button. There was a reg hack to put it back in the Developer Preview but MS removed even THAT in the Consumer Preview.

You’re trapped flipping between the two UIs.


28 posted on 03/15/2012 12:30:03 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Burning the Quran is a waste of perfectly good fire.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

You should try the win8 preview and see how fast ie10 is (the touch version). The full screen apps look great. This is a game changer and most won’t understand it until they get to touch it. I was the same way with the iPad until I got to try it.


29 posted on 03/15/2012 12:34:31 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: ShadowAce

Just like Star Trek, every other release sucks.


30 posted on 03/15/2012 12:37:38 PM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: for-q-clinton

We’ve been running it. What you don’t understand is that professionals who operate Active Directory domains don’t really care about little speed gains with applications that aren’t mission critical. That kind of poking around is for the home.

What we care about - for the general user - is ease of use and compatibility in the workplace. And for that, the current release is Pure Fail.

Admins around the world are looking at this like their standing in the shallows, with everything under control, but there’s a 30-foot swell about a half-mile out, coming in fast and it’s gonna suck when it hits.


31 posted on 03/15/2012 1:07:02 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Burning the Quran is a waste of perfectly good fire.)
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Jelly donuts are not your friend in that sort of environment.


32 posted on 03/15/2012 1:12:08 PM PDT by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

I understand that from the admin perspective, but this is the CONSUMER PREVIEW...NOT the ADMIN PREVIEW.

Have you tried the preview for the windows server 8? Also most admins are moving to powershell anyway, so really it will be run a powershell script.

Admins may like having a tablet/pad with touch to manage the enterprise though. I bet they will be complaining if they don’t get touch interfaces/apps to manage their network.


33 posted on 03/15/2012 1:23:16 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: dangerdoc

Upgrade path is from WinXP to OS X.


34 posted on 03/15/2012 1:24:14 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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I tried OSX, didn’t care for it much.


35 posted on 03/15/2012 1:31:41 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: for-q-clinton

So, when was the last time you saw a MS OS release where the UI for the home version and the UI for the pro version was different?

It is completely fair to assume 8 is going to be the same. Especially considering the way MS has completely toasted the Start Orb.

Which brings up, if I’m actually going to get a different UI with the pro version, then why am I being forced to use Metro at home? Why don’t I get a choice?

This is almost the same as if MS forced you to use Window Media Center as the OS shell. I actually think Media Center’s pretty cool....in a media center. Not on a desktop.

Likewise, 8’s got all sorts of potential for being cool on a tablet or phone...but annoying on the desktop.

And let’s face it - I don’t really like Apple, but do think for one second they didn’t wonder if Lion should be interfaced the same as iOS? If it were a good idea, they would have already done it.


36 posted on 03/15/2012 1:37:13 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Burning the Quran is a waste of perfectly good fire.)
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I switch to the "desktop" view quite easily. As for the Start button, other than right-click >> Explore, I rarely use it in WinXP or Win7 - so no loss for me. However, if you want to run apps designed for the Metro interface, well...

I'm hoping my Dev version will let me install DiabloIII when it's released on 3/15 - might have to move up to the Consumer Preview for that though.

I will seriously consider buying a tablet (thanks to the Win8 Dev Team) if I can get one with enough CPU/GPU power to run some good games and render my house designs created in Chief Architect.

37 posted on 03/15/2012 1:38:54 PM PDT by DesertSapper (ANY GOP candidate is better than 4 more years of 0bama!)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

wow. A little nyquil and I suddenly can’t proof read.


38 posted on 03/15/2012 1:41:27 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Burning the Quran is a waste of perfectly good fire.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

You do that Server doesn’t use the aero interface, right?

I can easily see an app that launches into admin mode where you can do all your admistrative functions from there.


39 posted on 03/15/2012 1:46:48 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
And let’s face it - I don’t really like Apple, but do think for one second they didn’t wonder if Lion should be interfaced the same as iOS? If it were a good idea, they would have already done it.

Apple does not think of everything, you know.

Apple: ‘A6′ Chip Will Merge iOS With OS X In 2012, Says Jefferies

40 posted on 03/15/2012 1:48:05 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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