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Ban on leaf blowers mulled
Salem (MA) News ^ | 4/17/12 | raccoonradio

Posted on 04/17/2012 9:44:54 AM PDT by raccoonradio

If you're running a leaf blower, some people in Marblehead want you to reconsider the rake.

They've even put the issue on the warrant for the May 7 Town Meeting.

The proposed article says simply, "To see if the town will ban the use of leaf blowers in the Town of Marblehead or take any other action relative thereto."

Some supporters have suggested the wording be amended on the floor to merely limit leaf blowing.

Noise is the main objection to leaf blowers, although there are other drawbacks touching on health and the environment. Getting rid of the noise, said Sandi Peaslee, a backer of the article, "would be a wonderful thing."

Even landscapers like Scott Thomson in Salem express sympathy toward those who can't bear the ear-splitting roar of leaf blowers. His own workers are told to wear protective devices over their ears.

But if the article passes, it's going to cost Marbleheaders more to groom their yards — substantially more, Thomson said.

"I would say 25 percent more at the least," he said, noting that it will take workers a lot longer to do the same job with a rake.

Thomson, who remembers the days before leaf blowers, believes they not only make lawn work quicker, they make it better. For example, a leaf blower can force out dead leaves stuck within bushes and hedges.

Otherwise, he said, "they have to pick those leaves out by hand."

His trucks also use large reverse blowers to suck leaves in at the end of the job. Thomson wonders if a new bylaw would affect that process.

"This is about money," he said. "We sell time." And that time will balloon if the article passes.

Proponents like Beth Grader expect opposition. At a March 27 forum in Marblehead to discuss the issue, opponents of the ban grew so heated that some simply left the meeting, she said.

People who have paid for leaf blowers want to use them, Grader said.

"And I hate telling anyone what they can do," she said, but adds, "You have the darn things going all summer long."

She notes that her seriously ill mother, confined to her room with open windows, will be hard-pressed to bear the racket.

"The decibel level of a leaf blower is much higher than a lawn mower," she said.

And that's only part of the problem.

Peaslee points out that gasoline-powered motors pollute the environment. Moreover, leaf blowers' absence would improve conditions for the garden, as they often take out vital "leaf litter" that helps plants thrive.

Grader also invites voters to consider what's in the dust that leaf blowers kick up, including animal droppings. The dust lingers in the air, she warns, and runners and others breathe all that deep into their lungs.

If limiting leaf blowing is an idea whose time has come, you wouldn't know it by listening to one veteran Salem city councilor. Joe O'Keefe says it hasn't been proposed in his city, and he thinks it would fail 11-0 if it were.

"What are they going to ban next?" he asks. "People want to clean their lawns and driveways. It's an advantage to have a leaf blower. Are we going to ban lawn mowers, too? Or airplanes? They make noise."

He has his own leaf blower but concedes, "I can't get it to start."

As for his neighbors in Marblehead, he asks, "Don't the taxpayers and poor souls in Marblehead have enough to do without banning leaf blowers?"


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To: raccoonradio

Now, all you people who thought smokers were crazy for getting upset about all the smoking ban ordinances, can now officially apologize. Once the “illuminated elite” figure out they can push people around, there’s no end to it. They’ll just keep expanding the groups they can push around.


21 posted on 04/17/2012 10:35:11 AM PDT by cincinnati65 (Romney is not MY candidate for President in 2012.)
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To: raccoonradio

I hate those things.People seem to use them and think it is ok to blow the leaves out of their yard and into others yards.Better to run a mulching mover over them and leave them on the lawn for food.


22 posted on 04/17/2012 10:36:32 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: whatexit

I actually prefer the rake to the blower. I own a blower, but find it is actually more work to use it unless it is to gttheleaves off my driveway or a solid surface. A blower is pretty much useless on the grass, especially given the amount of rain we get in the fall.


23 posted on 04/17/2012 10:39:49 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

You are right. It is an obnoxiously loud and annoying tool.
Even the one I own (and haven’t used in years) was not something I purchased myself.
It was given to me as a gift.
I do remember thinking at the time, “What am I supposed to do with this loud worthless piece of crap”, but I was polite to my wife’s relative and thanked her.


24 posted on 04/17/2012 10:41:17 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: raccoonradio

I’ve always wondered to where do they blow the leaves? Aren’t the leaves eventually going to blow around again? In my neighborhood I’ve seen the leaves being blown into the catch basins, which clogs them up and causes our street to flood. There’s actually a law against it, but it’s never enforced.


25 posted on 04/17/2012 10:46:49 AM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: raccoonradio
I used to live in Marblehead, and it's a v-e-r-y wealthy town populated by eighth-generation (at least) Yankees who did not appear to often groom their own lawns.

My educated guess is that a fair number of "undocumented" folks from Lawrence and Lowell will soon be nursing sore arms, aching from raking.

I'd also love to know what Barbara Anderson (Citizens for Limited Taxation and a long-time Marblehead resident) thinks of this.

26 posted on 04/17/2012 10:49:18 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: BuffaloJack
I do remember thinking at the time, “What am I supposed to do with this loud worthless piece of crap”

Build and Ride a Hovercraft

27 posted on 04/17/2012 11:01:19 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: raccoonradio

These ideas are always advanced by liberal pussies who don’t do their own land maintenance, and never have pushed a mower or pulled a rake.


28 posted on 04/17/2012 11:06:03 AM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: AbnSarge

Use a mulcher and/or run the mower with the shoot toward the inside of the mowing pattern. Problem solved.


29 posted on 04/17/2012 11:07:35 AM PDT by bgill
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To: raccoonradio

These ideas are always advanced by liberal pussies who don’t do their own land maintenance, and never have pushed a mower or pulled a rake.


30 posted on 04/17/2012 11:08:47 AM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: raccoonradio
"And I hate telling anyone what they can do, she said, but adds, You have the darn things going all summer long. She notes that her seriously ill mother, confined to her room with open windows, will be hard-pressed to bear the racket. The decibel level of a leaf blower is much higher than a lawn mower, she said."

Then shut the damn window. If you live in a community where people can afford to get their landscaping done, then you can afford a window a/c. Shut the window, dipshit.

"Peaslee points out that gasoline-powered motors pollute the environment."

So now leaf blowers are a pollutant and adding to the failed global warming theory?

"Moreover, leaf blowers' absence would improve conditions for the garden, as they often take out vital leaf litter that helps plants thrive."

BS. I watch my mow & go guys blow the leaf debris into my flower beds and they're doing fine. Where does she think all those leafs go, down some special leaf drain hole? Also, if you have a garden, then you know how to fertilize it. It doesn't need "leaf litter".

"Grader also invites voters to consider what's in the dust that leaf blowers kick up, including animal droppings. The dust lingers in the air, she warns, and runners and others breathe all that deep into their lungs."

Unbelievable. Dust in the air? Guess they should outlaw dirt and the wind. While they're at it, they should outlaw plants that are the main cause of allergies that get into the all so wonderful "runners" lungs.

As far as "animal droppings", anyone who has a pet or has pets outside next door is inhaling molecules of fecal matter. Here's a fact for this dumbass: She inhales more fecal molecules every time she flushes the toilet after emptying her bowels, unless she pushed the handle and runs. If she's not strictly hygiene aware, than she also has fecal matter on her hands after doing her duty.

While I'm on a rant: I am so sick of that stupid commercial that shows some woman on her balcony smoking and watching the special-effects generated smoke drift up to the floor above and left of her to attack the baby in the crib.

Think about it. She's outside which immediately dissipates the molecules. Yet, they show the smoke (in a stream) traveling directly up and over to the other apartment and then inside and then into the baby's room and then hanging over the child with a demonic look. How many exhaled molecules could actually reach the child from that distance from outside? I say 4.

Poor kid is gonna have stunted growth and emphysema due to that women outside below. Sheesh. The kid has more threat from its own parents bringing home some bacteria or virus.

Another example of government officials and busy-bodies needing to justify their existence.

31 posted on 04/17/2012 11:09:17 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever)
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To: raccoonradio

Instead of banning leaf blowers outright, a better way would probably be to do three things:

1) Make a scheduled window of time each weekday when leaf blower use is acceptable. Make it flexible in case of storms, or for people who work during that time, encouraging them to agree with their neighbors when an acceptable time would be. Discourage leaf blowing on the weekends.

2) Encourage “casual” leaf blower users to use electric, either wire or battery powered, which while less powerful are also less ‘stinky’. Encourage “professional” landscapers to keep their gasoline powered leaf blowers tuned and serviced, to minimize their stink.

3) Combine it all with a public-private composting initiative, which already exists in many cities, in which there is free curbside pick up of bagged leaves and other garden waste, by request. This works in two ways, in that after composting, local residents can pick up free compost fertilizer for their gardens, with the remainder used for public parks.


32 posted on 04/17/2012 11:18:38 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("It is already like a government job," he said, "but with goats." -- Iranian goat smuggler)
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To: wolfman23601

Sounds like a weak leaf blower. A 200mph Echo works fine on grass :)


33 posted on 04/17/2012 11:24:59 AM PDT by whatexit
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To: bgill
"Use a mulcher and/or run the mower with the shoot toward the inside of the mowing pattern. Problem solved."

Sorry, that doesn't work for us suburbanites who have patios and pools and are too busy with our jobs and making an honest living. Even I get annoyed by the constant noise of the leaf-blowers in my neighborhood, but I understand that all are at work during the day. If they can afford mov&go, and prefer to enjoy their weekends, more power to them.

Screw the noise-nazis. If they don't like it, let them move to a rural area or shut their damn windows or get ear plugs. Noise is a fact of life in suburbia - think car traffic. During the summer with the bedroom slider open, I sleep with earplugs. Sleep great.

34 posted on 04/17/2012 11:25:08 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever)
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To: raccoonradio

I lived in Masshole. Without a leaf blower... I hope liberals do this. :)


35 posted on 04/17/2012 11:32:38 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: GOP_Party_Animal; BuffaloJack
Yep, that's what I do, except I bag it and drop it off for the city to compost the chopped leaves. I prefer chemical fertilizer for the lawn. Why anyone would pay for that obnoxiously loud tool is beyond me. It's tough for a small-government type to say, but I wish my city would ban leaf blowers.

You guys must be real strong to be able to push those manual, rotary, mulch mowers, because I know you don't want that obnoxiously loud gas powered, lawn mower to do your little job?

I wish my city would allow me to shoot loud mowered hypocrites.

37 posted on 04/17/2012 12:08:46 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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To: USS Alaska
I wish my city would allow me to shoot loud mowered hypocrites.

How many people do you see wearing hearing protection when they are using their gas lawnmower? Zero. That's because sounds lower than 85 dB are not harmful. On that logarithmic scale, a leaf blower's shrill whine is well over 100; nearly as obnoxious as you are.

38 posted on 04/17/2012 2:27:22 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: raccoonradio
What's next-gas powered lawnmowers? We could go back to something like this...


39 posted on 04/17/2012 2:53:59 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: bgill

You’ve got me convinced. But then, I do my own yardwork (one of the few around that do). The landscapers and lawn services are the ones who use that technique. Show up, lot of noise, gone to the next job.


40 posted on 04/17/2012 4:47:45 PM PDT by AbnSarge
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