Posted on 04/19/2012 6:01:35 PM PDT by Morgana
WASHBURN, Mo. -- A mother is upset over over a classroom incident that left her kindergartner embarrassed. A 6-year-old girl had an accident in her classroom, and her parents are pushing for policy changes.
"They told me that the teacher had asked her to go to the restroom before testing time," said mother Lisa Skidmore.
Skidmore says asking a young child to go to the bathroom on demand is next to impossible.
"You can't do that to a 6-year-old." That's why, when her kindergartner told her teacher she had to go to the restroom during the test and wasn't allowed, Skidmore couldn't believe it. Her little girl couldn't hold it.
"They didn't even bother trying to clean her up or anything. She still had poop, diarrhea poop, coming out the back, up her front, down her legs," she said.
Skidmore says her daughter was forced to sit in the class for the remainder of test time, about 15 minutes, then mom was called after the test, and it was a 20-minute drive to school to pick up her daughter.
All the while, the little girl had to sit in the mess. No one bothered to clean her up, although a teacher did give her a trash bag to wrap around herself.
"You don't even treat a dog that way!" Skidmore said.
She says she's hoping policy will change, and common sense will prevail.
"I don't want this to happen to any other kid. That's the point of this: I don't want this ever happening."
School District Superintendent Bob Walker didn't want to go on camera but said he wishes the school would've handled it differently.
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You didn't say if your girls are 6 years old. But no matter their age, you're saying that if they had an accident, you'd make them sit in their shit for a half hour while you kept driving? Great.
And for those who want to lay all the blame on the school - if this was mandated standardized testing, then the school's hands are likely tied. As a former teacher who had to help administer such tests for several years - for many states, the regulations are so strict that if a child is allowed to leave the room for essential any reason, the school can get in big trouble, and the teacher actually lose his/her teacher license.
What bull - an "essential reason" means it's - essential. Which means it's the reason the school would NOT "get into trouble" nor would any teacher "lose their license." Or are you saying that if they did NOT force that little 6 year old girl to sit in her shit for a half hour in front of her classmates, that the school would have "gotten in trouble" and the teacher would have "lost her license"? Good Lord, do you even bother reading what you wrote?
Any and all "breaks" required all test materials being taken up (ONLY between timed testing periods) and secured (lock and key), all students supervised while going on break/bathroom.
So what? I mean really, so what? So in order to avoid that bother, 6 year old girls (or anyone, really, for who the hell are teachers to decide?) should be forced to SIT IN THEIR SHIT?
You're a former teacher? Yeah, I believe it. THANK GOD you're out of the classroom. And now that you have more time - get psychiatric help. Because you're defending the indefensible with lies. And if you think I'm overreacting, if you think I'm being unfair, then do an experiment - sit in front of your family, shit yourself, and then sit there for a half hour. THEN tell me you're rational.
And BTW, your disclaimer is pathetic - it only serves to prove you know exactly how revolting you are.
child abuse!
You said just exactly what I wanted to say. Thank you
I quite agree with you but in this case the child was sick. A good teacher/mom/anyone for that matter ought to be tell if a child is just wasting time or really “has to go”.
What is worse is letting the child sit there in human filth. Do you realize what a haz-mat situation that was? Not surprised every kid had what she had by the end of the day. That was just stupid on that teacher’s part. A janitor should have been called right away to clean up the mess and the kid sent home.
I agree with you in that a child should not be forced to sit in their own filth.
I have a feeling that teacher was so pressured by her superiors to “make the kids take the tests” that she did what she did. Plus the fact that she is heartless.
If I were the teacher I would not want to smell a kid who just had an accident like that. I’d call for the janitor and send the child to the school nurse or office just to be rid of the smell.
These parents really need to file charges of child abuse against the teacher/school.
You didn't say if your girls are 6 years old. But no matter their age, you're saying that if they had an accident, you'd make them sit in their shit for a half hour while you kept driving? Great.
Our girls are currently 8 and 6 years old. We have never, and would never make one "sit in their sh__ "(why you felt the need to use profanity to illustrate your defective and assumptive view is beyond me, but offensive either way)."
It's quite simple - we have a drill before hitting the road (long or short hop trips) - everyone goes to the bathroom immediately before we head out the door. Same goes for when we leave whatever location we went to (restaurant, friend's house, family, etc.). It just is part of the usual routine. In the last 3 years, we have had to make maybe 2 "emergency unscheduled stops" for potty breaks. We space out schedule breaks around everyone's needs (and when we say "schedule - that isn't a set time on the clock... just a reasonable amount of road progress plus the "needs" of the family at the time). If we have stopped for a meal - we know that a break will be needed sooner.
I left teaching voluntarily to enter full-time ministry. I never had an issue with bathroom troubles (was actually a band director - teaching students from 4th - 12th Grade. Biggest potty issues were not with the younger children, but with the 7th-9th graders who like to test boundaries. Still - was not a regular issue for me or my classes.
And finally - what "LIES" did I post? I assume you are speaking from someone actively engaged in the teaching profession who has read the documents that the test administrators must sign that clearly state ANY AND ALL deviations from the long list of rules are grounds for disciplinary actions up to and including revocation of teaching license. I was required to sign such a document at least 3 times.
Here in Arkansas, there are teams that are sent out by the Arkansas Department of Education to do drop-in monitoring. They just show up at a campus, and walk in like they own the place. If they see any violations (even minor), the sh__ word you apparently have a fascination with (considering you used it multiple times in your psychotic rail against my previous post) hits the fan. Administrators run around paranoid. Teachers walk on egg shells... it is not a pleasant time.
So - next time you decide to falsely accuse me (or anyone else here on FR) of lying, or of needing psychological help, you might ought to check your own pants for the load of sh__ you seem to be obsessed with.
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Actually - yes you can. Every time we leave for any significant drive, we make certain that our two girls go to the bathroom before we leave. It has been quite some time since we have had to make an “unscheduled” stop.
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I agree with you about kids *in general* of that age. Our five-year-old boys can certainly pee “on demand” and do so all the time, every time we get ready to leave the house. (Though if they’ve drunk a lot of liquid, sometimes even the “preventative peeing” doesn’t prevent a stop halfway to our destination.)
However, the story said the child had diarrhea. Diarrhea does not show up when YOU want it to (i.e., at the kids’ scheduled bathroom time). It shows up at the most inconvenient time possible, in my experience even as an adult. If you’ve picked up some sort of virus or whathaveyou, the diarrhea can come on very suddenly, without warning. So when that poor child told her teacher she had to go . . . she meant she had to GO. NOW.
Teacher’s fault. If the kid says they have to go, they probably really mean it.
I remember those tests, Minnesota or something.
Every single one of them I never ever wrote the right answer, I just randomly marked the boxes, some could have been right for all I care.
Years later I read that by randomly marking the answers generally gave more correct answers than the average studen was able to give.
And when my son has to take these tests I tell him to just mark at random.
I don’t believe in the big pre-destiny idea of job and career placement based upon testing like this, its reeks of manipulation, culture breeding and harvesting.
...it’s a public school, why should anyone be surprised?
Diarrhea sometimes doesn’t give much warning.
Well, I don’t know about the lying part. I certainly do feel you are telling the truth, indeed smugly so...minister!
Control freak much?
Kindergarten basically lasts all the way through 12th grade anymore, what with the government schools routinely putting the headbangers in with the regular kids (they call this “mainstreaming”) and then requiring an extra teacher in the classroom to deal with the constant disruptions. Yikes. Parents, get your kids out of the government schools if you love them.
Six year old children are not taking the SAT or ACT.
Geeze!... Where have we heard this before.? ....( Thinking)....Oh yes! The Nueremberg Trail. " I was just following orders".
Honestly,....There are schools that are soooo emotionally, physically, sexually, and spiritually abusive that it would be better for the child to NEVER attend. Using your argument it now seems that **all** government schools are **that** bad.
Let's see? Job or child abuse? Job or child abuse?
So?....From your post, I conclude that teachers are willing to abuse children for a paycheck. Wow!
Parents: WARNING! This seems to be the mentality. Paycheck over child safety and well-being. GET YOUR CHILDREN OUT OF THE GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS! ( Yes, I am shouting, jumping up and down, and having a fit.)
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Culture Breeding? Harvesting? Hm?....Yes, it does seem like that.
It is for unique insights like this that I read Free Republic. It is very astute of you to make an observation like this.
Molestation in the bathroom by an older boy seems to be a “big deal” to me.
So?....Please tell me. Why should parents subject second graders to molestation by older boys? How is this preparing them for the real world?
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