Virgil Goode On the Issues [Constitution Party POTUS Candidate]

OnTheIssues.org ^

[gusty]

If you want to vote for a Democrat like Goode, just go the full monty and vote for Obama

[cripplecreek]

All I know is that the Mittlickers better hope Goode can help get people to the polls because if they’re counting on Mitt to carry the downticket GOP races, the GOP is screwed.

[CharlesWayneCT]

I will note that some people who are backing Goode now are the same people who attacked Rick Perry for being a Democrat in the 1980s, up to when he supported Al Gore for the 2008 democratic primary.

Virgil Goode was a democrat until the year 2000, serving 2 terms in congress as a democrat before serving a term as an independent. He became a republican in 2002, after working to ensure that Boucher, another democrat, was guaranteed not to be redistricted out of a seat in the house.

I don’t say this to oppose him — he has in this decade been a stalwart conservative, and his loss in 2008 was a true shame. I just like to point out how the best conservative we had to beat Romney this time around was dismissed for positions that were later completely acceptable in the final guys in the race, and in Goode now.

Unfortunately, about the only impact Goode could possibly have in this election is to drain off just enough republican votes in Virginia to give Obama the state. But I don’t expect it to happen, since there’s probably a reason he didn’t even try to run again for his seat in 2010, even though he only lost it by a couple hundred votes. We still took the seat back, but with a candidate not as conservative as Goode.

A no-name candidate with no money and no constituency, I doubt he will even be a blip on the radar for this election. Still a good guy, and I wish he had focused on things he could win here in Virginia, like the Senate seat.

[sand88]

He’s got the Mittsuckers all stirred up.

Yep! Just think if Conservatives would have never voted for rabid RINOs, then the party would have been pulled more towards Liberty.

As it is now, the GOP-e are left of the 1950s RATS.

There is no way I will ever vote for a Liberal, left or right.

[SoConPubbie]

If you want to vote for a Democrat like Goode, just go the full monty and vote for Obama

What is it about Mitt Supporters and their habit pattern of lying and deceiving?
Oh, that's right, Mitt has the same problem, I guess the nuts don't fall far from the tree, do they?

[SoConPubbie]

So Charles, do we have to ask who you are supporting?

[DannyTN]

"If you look at 2007 prior, he was voting with the Dems on many things ",

What are you looking at? Based on the following analysis looking at 2006 votes, Goode is a solid Conservative.

Okay let's look at all of his 2006 votes. I ran out of time so I did every vote for about half a year. Votesmart Key votes Goode

Anti-Abortion- Bill required doctors to give info prior to abortion. Dec. 6, 2006 HR 6099 Abortion Pain Bill Bill Failed - House (250 - 162) Yea

Created military tribunals to try overseas combatants - Bill was sponsored by Republicans Sept. 29, 2006 S 3930 Military Commissions Act of 2006 Bill Passed - House (250 - 170) Yea

Pro-Private Property vote Bill allows individual private property owners access to both local and federal courts when bringing forward civil rights cases concerning their property. Sept. 29, 2006 HR 4772 Private Property Rights Implementation Act of 2006 Bill Passed - House (231 - 181) Yea

Funded Homeland Security - but this was Bush's Homeland Security before the sexual assaults started Sept. 29, 2006 HR 5441 Department of Homeland Security Appropriations Act 2007 Conference Report Adopted - House (412 - 6) Yea

Voted to allow electronic surveillance of terrorist suspects. Republican sponsored bill Sept. 28, 2006 HR 5825 Electronic Surveillance Modernization Act Bill Passed - House (232 - 191) Yea Tribunals again Sept. 27, 2006 HR 6166 Military Commissions Act of 2006 Bill Passed - House (253 - 168) Yea

Pro-Private Property - bill sponsored by Republicans Sept. 26, 2006 HR 4772 Private Property Rights Implementation Act of 2005 Bill Failed - House (234 - 172) Yea

Funded Military Sept. 26, 2006 HR 5631 Department Defense Appropriations Act, FY 2007 Conference Report Adopted - House (394 - 22) Yea

Pro - Free Expression of Religion Bill - Sponsored by Republicans Sept. 26, 2006 HR 2679 Public Expression of Religion Act of 2006 Bill Passed - House (244 - 173) Yea

Voted against going into secret session to consider the report ""Trends in Global Terrorism: Implications for the United States." Bill was sponsored by Nancy Pelosi Sept. 26, 2006 Motion to Resolve Into Secret Session Motion Rejected - House (171 - 217) Nay

Anti-Abortion vote. Voted to make it illegal for a non-parent to transport a child across state lines for an abortion - Sponsored by Republicans Sept. 26, 2006 S 403 Child Interstate Abortion Notification Act Bill Passed - House (264 - 153) Yea

Pro-gun vote. Reduced the descretion the AG had to arbitraily revoke firearm licenses. Sponsors=R Sept. 26, 2006 HR 5092 Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives Bill Passed - House (277 - 131) Yea

Pro-environment vote. Voted to add 10,000 acres to the white mountain national forest. Sponsors were Republican. Sept. 25, 2006 HR 5062 New Hampshire Wilderness Act Bill Failed - House (220 - 169) Yea

Anti-Immigration vote. Voted to recognize local officials inherent authority to deal with illegal immigrants Sept. 21, 2006 HR 6095 Immigration Law Enforcement Act of 2006 Bill Passed - House (277 - 140) Yea

Pro-Stimulus. Voted to fund grants for development plans for disadvantaged applachian regions. Bill was sponsored by Republicans Sept. 21, 2006 S 2832 Appalachian Regional Development Act Amendments of 2006 Bill Failed - House (215 - 204) Yea

Pro-VoterPhotoID. Sept. 20, 2006 HR 4844 Federal Election Integrity Act of 2006 Bill Passed - House (228 - 196) Yea

Anti-Immigration, Pro-Border fence vote Sept. 14, 2006 HR 6061 Secure Fence Act of 2006 Bill Passed - House (283 - 138) Yea

Anti-Gambling, Pro-States rights Vote Sept. 13, 2006 HR 4893 Restricting Indian Gaming to Homelands of Tribes Act Bill Failed - House (247 - 171) Yea

Anti-HorseMeat vote. Republican Sponsor, Bipartisan cosponsors Sept. 7, 2006 HR 503 Horse Slaughter Prohibition Bill Bill Passed - House (263 - 146) Yea

Voted for Cloture on a bill that increased minimum wage and exemptions for Death tax. Sponsors = R July 29, 2006 HR 5970 Death/Estate Tax and Minimum Wage Bill Bill Passed - House (230 - 180) Yea

Pro Funded Pensions. Sponsors=R July 28, 2006 HR 4 Pension Reform Bill Bill Passed - House (279 - 131) Yea

Pro Gov't coordinated standards on Health IT Sponsors = R July 27, 2006 HR 4157 Better Health Information Systems Act of 2006 Bill Passed - House (270 - 148) Yea

Voted against Exemptimg India from certain Atomic Energy Act provisions. Sponsors=R, Cosponsors were Bipartisan July 26, 2006 HR 5682 U.S.and India Nuclear Cooperation Act of 2006 Bill Passed - House (359 - 68) Nay

Voted against Free Trade with Oman. SPonsor=R, Cosponsor=D July 20, 2006 HR 5684 U.S.-Oman Free Trade Agreement Implementation Bill Passed - House (221 - 205) Nay

Anti-human embryonic stem cell research. Voted against allowing HHS to support research using Human embryonic stem cells. Sponsor=RINO, CoSponsers=D July 19, 2006 HR 810 Stem Cell Research Bill of 2005 Veto Override Failed - House (235 - 193) Nay

Voted for removing court jurisdiction of the Pledge July 19, 2006 HR 2389 Pledge Protection Act of 2006 Bill Passed - House (260 - 167) Yea

Anti-Sodomy. Voted for a Constitutional amendment defining Marriage as one man and one woman. July 18, 2006 H J Res 88 Same-Sex Marriage Resolution Joint Resolution Failed - House (236 - 187) Yea

Anti-Embryonic stem cell. Voted to develop alternative stem cells from sources not involving Embryos July 18, 2006 S 2754 Alternative Stem Cell Therapies Act Bill Failed - House (273 - 154) Yea

Voted to extend voting rights act of 1965 another 25 years. July 13, 2006 HR 9 Voting Rights Act Reauthorization Bill Passed - House (390 - 33) Yea

[al_c]

Good stuff! Why didn’t he run on the GOP ticket?

[ScottinVA]

Virgil Goode’s chance of winning:
0. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

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As are Romney’s.

[ScottinVA]

Good stuff! Why didn’t he run on the GOP ticket?

As is the case with us, the GOP left him.

[ScottinVA]

Yeah, his voting background sure speaks to Democrat. /s

[Longbow1969]

I just like to point out how the best conservative we had to beat Romney this time around was dismissed for positions that were later completely acceptable in the final guys in the race, and in Goode now.

You make a good point about that, but in the end it was Perry's inability to communicate effectively enough at a national level that did the most damage to him. I supported Perry and tried to stick with him as long as possible. Perry has an almost perfect resume and on paper was clearly the best candidate, but I think we have to be fair and admit that his own poor debate and communication skills are probably what ultimately did him in.

I would add another factor that many people don't like hearing. Palin. I really believe that, at least on forums such as this one, large numbers of devoted Palin supporters were so convinced she was running that they thought they were helping clear the way for her by working to undermine any serious threat to her candidacy. For quite awhile, Perry was perceived as, potentially, one of her main conservative rivals. I think Palin's waiting till so late in the game to declare she wasn't running ended up hurting all the conservative candidates to some degree. It simply made it harder for conservative primary voters to focus on the actual candidates because so many were pining for the one that wasn't going to run. I believe this was far more damaging than most people think.

A no-name candidate with no money and no constituency, I doubt he will even be a blip on the radar for this election. Still a good guy, and I wish he had focused on things he could win here in Virginia, like the Senate seat.

As I'm from Virginia I know who Goode is. While he may be a good guy, he is not a very significant political figure statewide and is unlikely to have any impact even here in the Commonwealth. Like you said, "a no-name candidate with no money and no constituency" isn't likely to be so much as a blip on the radar.

[CatherineofAragon]

"You make a good point about that, but in the end it was Perry's inability to communicate effectively enough at a national level that did the most damage to him. I supported Perry and tried to stick with him as long as possible. Perry has an almost perfect resume and on paper was clearly the best candidate, but I think we have to be fair and admit that his own poor debate and communication skills are probably what ultimately did him in. "

No, they weren't, and quite frankly I get weary of rebutting this. His back surgery was what did him in. The early debates were horrific, and with each one, I would be on the edge of my seat, nervous, wondering when the screwup would come. But by the time he healed, toward the end, his performances were excellent, and I was completely relaxed because I knew he'd do a great job. Rick Perry does not have poor debate skills, and he most certainly doesn't have poor communication skills.

[Longbow1969]

No, they weren't, and quite frankly I get weary of rebutting this. His back surgery was what did him in. The early debates were horrific, and with each one, I would be on the edge of my seat, nervous, wondering when the screwup would come. But by the time he healed, toward the end, his performances were excellent, and I was completely relaxed because I knew he'd do a great job. Rick Perry does not have poor debate skills, and he most certainly doesn't have poor communication skills.

Well, I hope you are right. I really do. I am willing to believe the back surgery and medication caused him problems, but even near the end of his run I didn't find Perry's communication ability terribly effective. He struck me as especially strong at small group fundraisers and the like, and rather poor when he had to speak off the cuff to the media and even in the last few debates he participated in. Yes, he got better in the final debates, but I still felt he did not do as well in those as even Santorum and Gingrich did. In the end I concluded Perry was basically a paper tiger on a national level - great resume, but just lacking the core communications skills needed.

But if you are right about this then we will likely see Perry running again in 2016 or 2020. I am not from Texas or anywhere near it, so I don't really know Perry as much as perhaps you do. His resume is only getting stronger as it seems to me he is becoming more and more conservative as time passes. I'd be thrilled to support him again if the communication issues are resolved.

[Raider Sam]

You need more adjectives. If you add in more adjectives, you will convert more people from the GOP.

[CharlesWayneCT]

Has Newt officially dropped out yet? I’m with Newt, so long as Newt is in it.

[CatherineofAragon]

I'm not a Texan either---Virginian, born and bred---but FR helped inform me about Rick Perry. I became a wholehearted supporter when I learned as much about him as I did. I believe his latter debate performances were quite good, and I believe he could have taken on Obama in the national debates. Maybe he isn't quite as smooth and glib as Newt or Santorum, but if that's the standard, very few are going to measure up, you know? I have to admit, it bothers me that the debates have become the be-all and end-all to rate the candidates.

Last I heard, Perry isn't ruling out running for national office again. So I guess we shall see. I think he learned some important lessons this time around which could possibly be put to good use next time.

[Longbow1969]

Good points, thank you for your insight. I like Perry and would certainly be open to supporting him again.