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For D.C. Baseball Team, Deluge of Phillies Fans Is National Disgrace
The Wall Street Journal ^ | May 2, 2012 | BRAD REAGAN

Posted on 05/06/2012 8:48:44 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

One of Andrew Feffer's jobs is getting Washington Nationals fans to come to the ballpark. But this year, the team's chief operating officer has another goal: keeping Philadelphia Phillies fans out.

Since the baseball franchise left Montreal for Washington, D.C., in 2005, the Nationals pastime has been losing games. They haven't yet had a winning season. Meanwhile, their rivals 125 miles up I-95 have been one of the best teams in the game.

With seats in Philly's Citizens Bank Park hard to come by, Phillies fans have taken to descending on Nationals Park whenever their team pays a visit. Two years ago, Nationals fan Ryan Sullivan spent more than $600 on Opening Day tickets for himself and his father. The park was filled with Philadelphia supporters, whose team routed the Nationals 11-1. One overindulged Phillies fan threw up on Mr. Sullivan's shoes, he says. "They were so obnoxious."

A veteran sports marketer, Mr. Feffer joined the Nationals in 2010. As a Virginia native, he had long been irked by the way Philadelphia fans converged on Washington to cheer for their teams—hockey and football fans also contend with Flyers and Eagles fans from up north.

The last straw came Aug. 20, on what should have been a happy occasion: The Nationals set a single-game attendance record. The problem was that two-thirds of the crowd was rooting for Philadelphia, which won the game 5-0. Phillies fans created a sign across the bleachers that said: "Welcome to Citizens Bank Park South."

Something, Mr. Feffer says, "had to change."

His solution was a curveball: For the first series between the two teams this year, Friday through Sunday, he blocked single-game ticket sales outside the District of Columbia, Maryland and Virginia.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: baseball; nationals; phillies; phillysucks

1 posted on 05/06/2012 8:48:51 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Reminds me of Seattle. When the Boo Heys play here people from Vancouver just about take over the ballpark. At least they’re polite...


2 posted on 05/06/2012 8:53:43 PM PDT by stormer
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To: MinorityRepublican

Only in D.C. would you rather not sell tickets than sell tickets.


3 posted on 05/06/2012 8:53:59 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: MinorityRepublican
Thanks to cheap flights to Pittsburgh, we help fill PNC Park with Phillies fans or Cubs fans when their respective teams are in town. The Cubs fans are at least polite.

Philadelphia fans have a reputation for being a**holes wherever they go. Why do you suppose that is?

4 posted on 05/06/2012 8:58:05 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

As a Brewers season ticket holder, I can say that many Cubs fans are NOT polite. Cubs fans make me long for White Sox fans.

The only real way to keep out of town fans out of the seats is to build a strong, local fan base.


5 posted on 05/06/2012 9:01:08 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Vigilanteman

Our proximity to New Jersey?


6 posted on 05/06/2012 9:02:18 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Vigilanteman

“Why do you suppose that is?”

It still is? Some things never change, I guess. Philadelphia fans had a reputation for being a**holes at least as far back as the 1950’s.

In the American league it seemed to be White Sox fans. At least according to Mel Allen. Maybe they were just the biggest Yankee haters.


7 posted on 05/06/2012 9:16:26 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: MinorityRepublican

StubHub, tons of DC area fans bought extra tics and put them up on StubHub, no lack of Phillie Phans this past weekend.


8 posted on 05/06/2012 9:16:51 PM PDT by this_ol_patriot (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Go to any ball park when the Red Sox are in town - anywhere in the country - and you’ll see a huge number of Red Sox fans there. I was watching the Red Sox play in Chicago at U.S. Cellular Field and even the radio broadcasters were commenting that it both looked and sounded more like a home game at Fenway.


9 posted on 05/06/2012 10:21:52 PM PDT by RonF
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To: Vigilanteman
Philadelphia fans have a reputation for being a**holes wherever they go. Why do you suppose that is?

Mostly democrats...

Just a guess..

10 posted on 05/06/2012 10:30:25 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Looks like his plan failed...

Phillies 9 Nationals 3


11 posted on 05/06/2012 11:20:01 PM PDT by onona (RIP Levon, another good man gone.)
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To: NoCmpromiz

Aren’t Eagles fans supposedly obnoxious, too? Not just baseball.


12 posted on 05/06/2012 11:30:03 PM PDT by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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To: RonF

Red Sox Fans...come to Baltimore to see their team play.
Lots of them.


13 posted on 05/07/2012 12:30:44 AM PDT by JimmyMc
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To: MinorityRepublican

Same thing happens when the Raiders play the Chargers in San Diego.Raider thugs,er, fans, descend, bedecked in chains, spikes,and leather.


14 posted on 05/07/2012 1:57:59 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: Vigilanteman
"Philadelphia fans have a reputation for being a**holes wherever they go."

Chris Matthews is their role model?

15 posted on 05/07/2012 2:31:04 AM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: boop

Yes, all Philly fans are a**holes.

Philles, 76ers, Eagles and Flyers.

All a**holes!


16 posted on 05/07/2012 2:35:08 AM PDT by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: RonF

When I saw Roid Sux fans (spit) in the crowd at Arlington last year, I knew the Republic of Texas wasn’t long for the world. It was damned enjoyable to watch the locals twist in the wind watching Baltimore pound them at Fenway this weekend, though... :-)


17 posted on 05/07/2012 2:59:32 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Philadelphia morons are the lowest of low. No one would want them!


18 posted on 05/07/2012 3:46:52 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Yeah - at the Prudential Center (aka THE ROCK) where NJ Devils play have to contend with offensive NY Ranger scum
because tickets too expensive at Madison Square Garden


19 posted on 05/07/2012 3:50:44 AM PDT by njslim (St)
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To: Vigilanteman
The Cubs fans are at least polite

Exactly. Most obnoxious, lease knowledgeable, etc. I guess I would be pissed too if my team hadn't won in 104 years. F the flubs.

20 posted on 05/07/2012 3:54:16 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: Tribune7

We need some Phila. fans on here to plead our case. We’re not all a**holes.


21 posted on 05/07/2012 5:43:27 AM PDT by randita
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To: randita

There was a guy who called in to “nats extra” who said there was a loud philly phan nearby who was very funny, and not vulgar or drunk. I think also a few nats fans were ejected because they actually started fights with p. fans. I think they actually were probably better behaved because there was so few of them compared to years past in nats park. It was a great first series this year.

Freegards


22 posted on 05/07/2012 5:56:54 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: who knows what evil?

The Red Sox, next to the Yankees, have the greatest amount of bandwagon fans in the game. Therefore, a large number of “Red Sox” fans in these varying cities are locals who are part of “Red Sox Nation”.

Doesn’t help the ESPN pushes “Red Sox Nation” 24/7 during Baseball season.

Myself, I’m still waiting for “Cleveland Nation”...


23 posted on 05/07/2012 6:28:13 AM PDT by Black_Shark
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To: MinorityRepublican
With seats in Philly's Citizens Bank Park hard to come by, Phillies fans have taken to descending on Nationals Park whenever their team pays a visit.

That used to be a way for us Giants fans to get to see our guys play; go to a road game against a less than successful team. Given the astronomical prices here for scalped tickets you might even save a few bucks. Not so much any more, though!

24 posted on 05/07/2012 6:36:33 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Vigilanteman
Philadelphia fans have a reputation for being a**holes wherever they go. Why do you suppose that is?

I'll take "BEHAVIOR" for $500, V-Man!

25 posted on 05/07/2012 6:38:28 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Black_Shark
Doesn’t help the ESPN pushes “Red Sox Nation” 24/7 during Baseball season.

I have to walk around with an 'air sick' bag around my neck because ever time I hear 'Red Sox Nation' here in the northeast; I just have to barf. I go through a lot of bags... :-)

26 posted on 05/07/2012 7:08:49 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I was born in 1959 and grew up in Newtown Square, 10 miles west of Philly. I have loved the Phillies passionately since their days of playing in Connie Mack Stadium under Gene Mauch.I had many memorable moments in the Vet. I was at Game 4 of the 93 Series, which the Phils lost 15-14. I was heartbroken when the incomparable Harry Kalas passed away, and two of my most memorable moments were meeting Steve Carlton in a Woolworths in Cooperstown, and meeting the late Richie Ashburn in a pizza joint outside Philly. I now live in Laurel, MD, and try to get to a Phils-Nats game in DC every year. Two years ago I was there when Ryan Zimmerman hit a walkoff home run off Brad Lidge. I turned my jersey inside out! I am also a passionate Eagles fan, though haven’t gone to a lot of their games because of cost, and because of obnoxious, drunken fans. The atmosphere at a Phils game is much different than at an Eagles game. Phils fans are crazy passionate, but generally well behaved compared to Eagles fans. The worst fans at Phillies games were Mets fans. I will own up to Eagles fans at the Link being obnoxious, but Phils fans are not. I’m as conservative as they come, am a lifelong Phillies/Eagles fan, but am not an obnoxious fan. In the DC area, the lousy Redskins get all of the attention. The Nats are an up and coming team, and success will build their fan base.


27 posted on 05/07/2012 7:09:24 AM PDT by Freestate316
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To: Vigilanteman

“Welcome to Philadelphia...and oh by the way, YOU SUCK!”


28 posted on 05/07/2012 7:10:36 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: onona
Looks like his plan failed... Phillies 9 Nationals 3

Nats still took 2 out of 3 for the weekend.

Personally, I'm in favor of banning Philadelphia sports fans from... well, just about anywhere that can call itself civilization.

29 posted on 05/07/2012 7:16:32 AM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Cubs fans do the same in Cincinnati, every Reds home game against the Cubs.


30 posted on 05/07/2012 7:26:28 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: South Hawthorne; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ..

Defense of Philly ping


31 posted on 05/07/2012 7:26:55 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Oh, the irony)
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To: who knows what evil?

True enough - the Red Sox are having a tough time this year. Pitching, don’t you know. We’ll see how we do a few months from now, it’s a long season, but right now we’re hurting, that’s for sure. Of course, I’ve been a fan since about 1963, so I’ve seen LOTS worse baseball than this.


32 posted on 05/07/2012 9:14:44 AM PDT by RonF
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To: RonF

The worst of the lot? J-E-T-S fans. Here in Dolphin Nation, they LIVE here and can be counted on to get drunker than monkeys in the stands and start fights with Dolfans.
The tail-gating in parking lots are like J-E-T-S war camps; they crank up their BBQs and break out the sissy beer about 0900 for a 1300 kickoff. Keeps me out of that park and parked in front of my flat screen.


33 posted on 05/07/2012 9:21:38 AM PDT by Ax
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To: randita

Phillies fans are outgoing and fun, for the most part. They are not dried up old miserable farts who can’t unclench long enough to hoot and holler.


34 posted on 05/07/2012 9:54:23 AM PDT by Scarpetta (e pluribus victim)
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To: Ransomed

My son, a Phillies fan who lives in D.C., caught the game last night. He’s been to many Nats-Phillies games and said last night was the first time he felt outnumbered.


35 posted on 05/07/2012 9:58:34 AM PDT by randita
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To: onona
You may want to check the NL East Standings before spouting off.
36 posted on 05/07/2012 10:18:05 AM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (Pictionary at the Rorschach's tonight!)
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To: onedoug

ping


37 posted on 05/07/2012 12:10:39 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: randita

Well, it’s the first time the Nats have been decent since the first half-season there.

With the Hamels/Harper thing it might be interesting. I think they both handled it well, although if you are going to throw at someone it should be because they were acting cocky in the bigs, not because the press made a big deal about you and you acted cocky in the minors. Harper has shown nothing but hustle and hasn’t acted like a prima-donna, and I have watched everygame so far with the Nats. Stealing home was the proper response, and Hamels got hit next time up. Afterwards, Harper said Hamels pitched a great game.

Freegards


38 posted on 05/07/2012 12:21:10 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: windcliff

I did notice a heck of a lot of Phillies fans while catching a little bit of yesterday’s game.


39 posted on 05/07/2012 12:38:02 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Ransomed

Harper seems like an intense, hard-nosed player. Gotta love that kind of hustle and attitude in such a young player. I hope he has a stellar year against every other team but the Phils.

Strong division rivalries are good for the game-players and fans alike. The Phils have always had good battles with the Mets and Braves. It would be fun to extend the hard fought battles to the Nats as well.

If you ever want to be in a wild and woolly place, go to Citizens Bank Park when a big contingent of Mets fans are in the house. I’ve seen many fisticuffs in that situation. Maybe you’ve seen them over the years as well.


40 posted on 05/07/2012 12:48:03 PM PDT by randita
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To: GreenLanternCorps

Totally true about the Cubs and Cincy. It seemed like there were more blue caps in the stands at Riverfront than red ones. And that’s at least a 6 hour drive from Chicago.


41 posted on 05/07/2012 2:53:50 PM PDT by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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To: Black_Shark
Speaking of obnoxious fans, do you remember when during a Bengals game, the Riverfront crowd was going wild, acting obnoxiously, throwing things on the field, and Sam Wyche got on the PA system and told the Cincy crowd to settle down. He said: "You live in Cincinnati, Not CLEVELAND!"

Nothing like the OLD "Dog Pound" of the 70s/80s.

42 posted on 05/07/2012 3:02:09 PM PDT by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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To: randita

Oh yeah, it will be great if we can see a series with both teams healthy sometime.

Strasburg vs. Halladay would be cool.

Freegards


43 posted on 05/07/2012 5:14:15 PM PDT by Ransomed
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