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To: fabian
Well, I see that is where you and many others blow it. Many leftists do indeed have a well meaning agenda to equalize and help people. The problem we all know is that is is the wrong way to help. Obama is one such brainwashed leader and to see him as just trash or an overtly evil man is really making it harder to not resent him and stand up boldly to him and his type.

I think giving tyrants any motives but evil just makes us willing pawns in their game. When you see men like Obama suggest policies that have been tried again and again and failed every time, you certainly have to suspect he has no intention of helping others. Why else does his Aunt live in a slum and his brother live in Kenya in a mud hut. That shows no true compassion. It's easy to be generous with the wealth of others to increase your popularity, that shows only a hunger for power and a wish to enslave others.

Abraham Lincoln said it best, "It is the eternal struggle between two principals right and wrong throughout the world.It is the same spirit that says you toil and work and earn bread and I'll eat it. No matter in what shape it comes, whether from the mouth of a king who seeks to bestride the people of his own nation and live by the fruit of their labor or from one race of men as an apology for enslaving another race. It is the same tyrannical principle."

It's a matter of world view. I'm a devout Christian, the good book makes it clear that God stands on the side of Liberty and the Devil on the side of Tyranny. If you don't think their is a force behind the evil in this nation and others, read the tenth Chapter of Daniel. "Where the spirit of the Lord is, there is Liberty." II Corinthians 3:17.

Every great dictator has claimed to tyrannize his subjects for the greater good. Hitler claimed to have the best interests of the German people at heart, surely you won't say he murdered out of compassion. The socialists and the Satanists claimed to have the best interests of the people at heart, did they? Barrack Obama and many politicians today make the same claims for the people and I don't believe it. I don't care if they are dupes of evil, their actions are evil; and by their fruits I judge them.

33 posted on 05/11/2012 10:12:27 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
Nope, you are not correct. Evil masquerades as goodness in many many people, especially those on the left. Obama and his ilk have been brainwashed in the mind controlling institutes called present day colleges and to see that force of evil working in their minds actually helps a lot in standing boldly against them. It is resentment for people that makes us ineffective, but when we can really see evil working in their minds, we want to actually fight them to free them too, if at all possible!
I was once told by a reverend that this type of thinking will make me venerable to the left, but he could not see for some reasons of hardness, that it is actually very much the opposite. Remember, Jesus said to love our enemies, and it is love to see them also as victims to some degree of evil spirits. That does not let them of the hook, as we ALL have moments of awakening that could lead us to salvation. So let's help be those moments in people’s lives, even leftist types. There are many of them that have converted to conservatism.
And yes, to some degree Hitler had a grand motive of a thousand years of glory. He was totally possessed by evil...a sociopath type that took pleasure also out of having power over people.
35 posted on 05/11/2012 10:42:57 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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