Posted on 05/14/2012 1:57:42 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
Generally, any other employer inquiring will only be given date of hire, and last date worked, as employers know if they reveal anything else, they're screwed.
And there are individuals that will call, acting like prospective employers, as a pretext just to see what the employer reveals.
Always a very bad idea. As stated in other posts - write it. Got to bed and re-read it in the morning. Then throw it away.
No wonder companies are afraid to hire new employees. It’s like picking behind Door Number 3 on “Let’s Make a Deal”, you have no idea if there is a Zonk behind the curtain.
Not officially, but it really is a small world. I've seen this happen so many times. When someone gets a professional reputation, good or bad, it carries forward across many companies. I've seen people who had such poor records, everyone knew the day they were interviewing and immediately warned the hiring manager. Word of these types of incidents travel fast.
Don’t send it. You may find it hard to get hired again.
There are reasons for that.
One of which is due to massive corruption in today's workplace, such as firing half the crew/staff, and forcing others left to perform twice the work for the same pay.
Welcome to the new American work place.
Employer says the wrong thing, they lose big.
Employers know this and know it's not worth it.
NEVER put anything in writing. It carries weight in court and employment decisions.
Act in haste (or anger) repent at leisure.
IMHO...
If management has demonstrated that they are not actively seeking your advice, just move on.
Proving a point does not make you any money.
Your future career is what is important.
Try to have several people you can use as a good reference from the place.
If this is not possible, it’s not the end of the world; I would understand, some businesses are dysfunctional but manage to stay in business, not everyone will like everyone. It would look great, IMHO, if there was even one good reference.
Just learn from the experience.
Other than that, just get on with your life. A year from now it will seem like small potatoes.
IMHO...
One of these experiences was one of the things that made me rethink my drugging.
I am quite good at web development. I breeze through the tech interviews to the point that they generally note "Computer Stud" on my resume.
However, one time I showed up at a place, and they had a 1 hour tech test that involved creating a small website quickly with certain specifications -- data storage, manupulation, presentation, entry, validation, etc.
I did the test. The manager brought me into the office. He looked at my effort. He said, "This is the best anyone has EVER done on this test. Not only did you do everything asked, you caught the little trick question, and you also added error checking, data redundancy, and penetration security. Amazing."
I beamed happily.
He continued, "....but.. one of our network guys recognizes you. He told me about certain problems you were manifesting. We can't hire you."
Wow. Got my attention. Atlanta is big, but got small that afternoon.
I’m not talking employers in an official fashion but employees and all those company ‘whispers’. For example, you have a guy selling at AT&T in a town was a complete slag off. He quit and tried to work for T-Mobile. The employees there knew that guy and warned the manager conducting the interview when he came in. Pleasant interview, but they simply chose someone else.
All the ‘official’ channels made him appear a perfectly acceptable employee.
The unofficial reptuatoin though can kill employment.
Short answer, absolutely don't disseminate this screed. Move on.
“Speak when you are angry and you will make the best speech you will ever regret.”
~Ambrose Bierce
Personal brands and networks collide these days. You’re so right.
Obviously you over-came it but for some, getting that reputation, your only choice is to go Galt. I have some friends like that. Brilliant programmers but with attitude or other personal issues, their only real choice is to do ‘blind’ contract work. It actually works out better for them financially too.
I believe all job hunters should read the book, The Brand You 50 by Tom Peters. People completely ignore building their personal brand and reputation and just apply for a j.o.b.
Talk to an employment attorney. If you don’t know one freepmail me.
That is always possible, however it’s a really big world out there, and the chances of someone knowing you as a carpenter, machinists, programer, QA person or cubical drone 200 or 2000 miles away are extremely remote at best.
In fact, where most HR interviews are held, are private, and nowhere near the “floor” where other employees work.
Don’t burn bridges. You never know when you may cross paths with any of them again. Find some other way to vent.
When or if they happen to see an old co-workers applying, they will encourage management to hire them, as they know the type of hell they came from and why the their former coworker are now applying at their company.
You'll note the employee that started this thread was with the company 5+ years.
That generally indicates a dedicated long term employee, one who likely has experienced a company going south attempting to survives this economy, by brutalizing/cheating, concocting new pay plans, phony commissions, and or playing games with their employees in order to maximize their profits.
Not all employers are bad, but there there are many that are just nasty, or became nasty due to the economy, new management and the drive for higher profits etc.
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