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A very nice little Madrigal
Youtube ^ | Mr. Thomas Weelkes

Posted on 05/25/2012 2:54:04 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother

Hark all ye lovely saints above

Just a little musical relaxation for a Friday afternoon.

I heard this for the first time a couple of days ago and was enchanted. After the repeat of the first verse, Mr. Weelkes slides through a dissonance into a minor key, then dashes back to major and back to the dominant.

Not only is it a musical tour-de-force, it's gorgeous. Enjoy!


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1 posted on 05/25/2012 2:54:13 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother
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To: Tax-chick
Hi! I know you said this is not your kind of music, but isn't this splendid?

Mr. Weelkes wrote a lot of really good church music too, but this is his secular side.

2 posted on 05/25/2012 2:59:15 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Great change of pace...thanks!


3 posted on 05/25/2012 4:21:11 PM PDT by Enten (I don't have islamophobia...I do have islamonausea)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Thank you!

(Put me on your ping list. :-)


4 posted on 05/25/2012 5:01:03 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I first encountered madrigals when, upon arriving in Colonial Williamsburg for a weekend during the Christmas Season we experienced a concert in the Colonial Capitol Building. I was enthralled! I hummed and whistled some of the melodies for the next few days.

I’ve purchased several albums of Elizabethan music, in Colonial Williamsburg and elsewhere, with lute and harpsichord and recorder, and the rare madrigal included, just by happenstance, but never have found much in the way of pure madrigals.

I noticed there are several pretty good leads in the sidebar on the page where that madrigal is found. I’ll follow up on some of those. Thanks a million!


5 posted on 05/25/2012 5:35:06 PM PDT by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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To: MV=PY
LOL! I haven't got an "English Renaissance music ping list" - and if I did it might be just the three of us. :-D

But I'll make a note . . . .

Mr. Weelkes, by the way, was something of a character. He had a bit of a drinking problem and he was a very rowdy drunk. Got in trouble with the chapter (no kidding) for passing water on the Dean of Chichester from the organ loft during Evensong . . . eventually they detailed somebody to make sure he showed up for services clean and sober (and, presumably, dehydrated).

But they never, ever fired him because his music was just too wonderful. Unfortunately he died young, probably of the D.T.s, but he still produced an amazing body of music.

Alleluia - I heard a voice (Rev.14:2)

As a minister in the audience shouted when Susannah Cibber sang "He was despised" in the premiere of the Messiah, "For that, thy sins are forgiven thee!"

6 posted on 05/25/2012 5:48:48 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Tucker39
Best all round surveys I've found are a couple of albums by John Rutter and the Cambridge Singers - Flora gave me fairest flowers and Olde English Madrigals. He's got some others out - his group has a very spare, clear sound that lets you hear each part.

The Baltimore Consort does a lot of madrigals, but I don't care for their sound, which is loose, heavy on the vibrato and thicker, if that makes any sense.

You could listen to the snippets on amazon to see which style you prefer. I'm thoroughly in the traditional English camp, and that's not to everybody's liking.

Actually, our choirmaster tells us that the Elizabethans probably sounded like old-fashioned Appalachian mountain singers - very nasal and forward, with no vibrato at all. Don't think anybody could stand that these days (but when we sing the really early stuff, like Josquin and Ockeghem, we can get away with it.)

7 posted on 05/25/2012 5:57:55 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

That was charming. Takes me back to my college years, singing “Pastime With Goode Companie” and other Tudor favorites. I can still pick an A out of the air if I start “Fine Knackes for Ladies.”


8 posted on 05/25/2012 6:50:07 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I love you for your perspicacity.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Heehee! Musicians sometimes seem to be troublesome lot (no personal experience or anything like that) ;-)

How do you come to know so much about this gent?


9 posted on 05/25/2012 8:04:46 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: MV=PY
Musicians are . . . different. Sometimes troublesome, sometimes not.

I know about Mr. Weelkes and his checkered career because he composed a lot of church music. I usually look up the dates &c. of any composer we sing, and when I looked him up, I found all this stuff. He apparently was pretty notorious. Which is kind of sad that he had to suffer so (of course those around him had to also. Very sad all around).

If you put "Thomas Weelkes" into YouTube you'll get all sorts of neat stuff. The big names in early music like the Kings Singers or Cambridge are safest, but there are lots of local groups singing both sacred and secular.

10 posted on 05/26/2012 5:57:32 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Tax-chick

Fun stuff! Once you get the hang of it, it’s not hard. After all, this sort of music was written for middle class Elizabethans to sing around the table after dinner. Back in the day before phonographs and CDs and iTunes and Pandora. . . .


11 posted on 05/26/2012 6:00:51 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

And before mass-produced novels and gas lighting and central heat, too.


12 posted on 05/26/2012 6:11:23 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I love you for your perspicacity.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I think Rutter is the best!


13 posted on 05/26/2012 6:17:25 AM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Tax-chick

. . . and television. Don’t forget television (wish I could!)


14 posted on 05/26/2012 11:21:29 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

I watched “Bridezillas” one morning at my parents’ apartment. There are some crazy people out there!


15 posted on 05/26/2012 11:54:01 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I love you for your perspicacity.)
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Rutter is a very fine director, and the Cambridge Singers can't be beat for that English sound.

I don't like all of his own compositions, but some of them are very good. We sing his "Candlelight Carol" just about every Christmas. "The Lord is My Shepherd" from his Requiem is also fine (I like oboes - "Des Antonius von Padua Fischpredikt" by Mahler is also a favorite of mine, not only because of the oboes but because Fischer-Dieskau (may he rest in peace) sings it spectacularly.)

16 posted on 05/26/2012 11:54:07 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Tax-chick
I don't want to even think about Bridezillas! My USMC son has decided he wants a 'real wedding' on the beach at my parents' house (they got married at the courthouse), and my daughter and her beau are plotting marriage too.

Hopefully everything will be nice, quiet, modest and fun. Daughter is saving the cost of a wedding dress by wearing her grandmother's dress and veil (which I also wore). Double weight silk satin, round neckline, chapel train, and real Brussels lace veil. Going to have to have it cleaned to try to get some of the aging stains off the satin.

17 posted on 05/26/2012 11:57:34 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Two weddings at once? Sounds stressful!

I saved the cost of an expensive wedding dress by having one made by a dressmaker who ran a Mexican takeout shop out of her studio. It came to about $350, for materials and labor, and I got exactly what I wanted.


18 posted on 05/27/2012 6:11:16 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I love you for your perspicacity.)
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