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The real cause of disease and all suffering...and why cancer cures are spiritual in nature.
Youtube ^ | 5/30/12 | fabian

Posted on 05/30/2012 9:59:55 AM PDT by fabian

This posting is under news because this is news for so many people! And life saving news at that. If you do not wish to watch the short video, let me tell you that those teeny tiny irritations that fuel most of our lives, are the actual source of food for a darkness that creates disease, suffering, and misery.

Please, listen to the Be Still exercise that is being used widely now in our military at www.copingstrategiescd.com for the simple and highly effective answer!


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1 posted on 05/30/2012 10:00:09 AM PDT by fabian
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To: fabian

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2 posted on 05/30/2012 10:04:36 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian

The real cause of disease and suffering is the fall of mankind in the Garden of Eden. That’s an easy one.


3 posted on 05/30/2012 10:14:17 AM PDT by crosshairs
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To: crosshairs

Yes...but the cure is much simpler than imagined!


4 posted on 05/30/2012 10:34:14 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian

You can lay there and die, I’ll go find someone that knows what to do about it.


5 posted on 05/30/2012 10:36:42 AM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: CodeToad

Many people have found the cure within by letting go of all resentments....takes faith though. No faith...need doctors, yes. Sometimes not enough faith and doctors are still needed, yes.


6 posted on 05/30/2012 10:39:04 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian

We’ve seen your view before as children were left helplessly to die when simple medical intervention was all that was needed. This tree-hugging “have faith” expression is born of acid trip, ignorance, and laziness. God gave us brains and expects us to use them. Faith is one thing, but doing something for ourselves is mandatory.


7 posted on 05/30/2012 10:43:02 AM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: fabian
...and why cancer cures are spiritual in nature.

Do you mean that all cancer cures are necessarily spiritual in nature, or that some cancer cures might be at least partially spiritual in nature?

Because, frankly speaking, many people who wholly deny the efficacy of prayer have nonetheless experienced total remission.

Regards,

8 posted on 05/30/2012 10:46:47 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinarily good evidence.)
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To: fabian
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9 posted on 05/30/2012 10:56:41 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Whatever...way to bring the meaningless into a meaningful post!


10 posted on 05/30/2012 11:00:53 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: alexander_busek
Well, yes, doctors can help rid the body of cancer and other diseases and may be needed in many cases. However, if the root cause that I speak of in the video are seen and allowed to pass, other diseases will eventually pop up. Do all need the Be Still to overcome stress? No..but it sure has helped so many!
11 posted on 05/30/2012 11:05:13 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian

This is actually a very nasty post.

Your claim is that cancer and other diseases are the fault of the person who gets them being that they are hateful and angry people and that is why they have cancer. That they have not found salvation so that is why they have cancer or other diseases.

That is a sick and hateful position in and of itself. It takes a very sick and hateful human being to tell a person suffering from a fatal disease that it is their own fault and is due to them being hateful and angry.

By your own logic you should be getting a taste of your own medicine and feeling the effects of these hateful and angry accusation you are making against those who suffer with cancer and other diseases.


12 posted on 05/30/2012 11:05:58 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: TheBigIf; fabian

Worse yet, the poster is yet again pimping some coping strategies website. AGAIN!


13 posted on 05/30/2012 11:10:45 AM PDT by coop71 (Being a redhead means never having to say you're sorry...)
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To: Repeal The 17th

14 posted on 05/30/2012 11:11:04 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: fabian

I am just curious… do you tell little children who are suffering from cancer or some fatal disease this same message claiming that the ‘root cause’ of their disease is that they harbor too much hatred and anger and resentment? That if only they could become a better person and find salvation then maybe they wont have to die?

Pathetic.


15 posted on 05/30/2012 11:16:14 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: TheBigIf

“This is actually a very nasty post.”

Dittos! It was a very nasty post that accused those with cancer of not being with God. This is the type of mean and nasty person that would let a child die from a simple medical issue because they think God will save the child if and only if the child “deserves to live”. They forget there are rules about testing god this way.


16 posted on 05/30/2012 11:17:19 AM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: TheBigIf

There are often anger or other emotional issues even with kids having cancers...often coming through the parents. Look deeper.


17 posted on 05/30/2012 11:19:03 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian

Good post but cancer cures are 50% material and 50% spiritual. You can go the 100% spiritual cure route but you have to be an exceptional human being and bring lots of merit into the cure....otherwise you lose. If I had cancer I would go see the Dr Issels institute in Germany. They give you the best of chemo and best of alternative so they work synergistically. Then go pray you need both we are spirits in this material world (sting)

http://www.issels.com/


18 posted on 05/30/2012 11:20:13 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: coop71

Pimping a website? And you are a conservative? That website happens to be helping a lot of war vets along with civilians in becoming free from killer stresses!
What is your problem? Goodness gracious.


19 posted on 05/30/2012 11:21:26 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: CodeToad

Indeed, many forget that when God sent the Manna, He pretty much indicated ways to manage both our physical and mental health. It was not about being “happy animals”, it was about managing ourselves, reshaping ourselves and taking responsability for the continuation of the human race, and not taking it for granted like animals do.


20 posted on 05/30/2012 11:21:51 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: TheBigIf

No, you are expressing hate, not I. I am helping people and you are quite blind, sadly.


21 posted on 05/30/2012 11:22:31 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian

There are often? So then what percent of chidlren got cancer because they or their family were too angry or too hateful? I guess then you tell them that either they repent or get what they deserve?


22 posted on 05/30/2012 11:25:15 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: fabian

Oh so I am expressing hate because I stated that I thought your message to people suffering from cancer was hateful. I see. I guess anyone who disagrees with you is hateful then.


23 posted on 05/30/2012 11:27:29 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: TheBigIf
I guess anyone who disagrees with you is hateful then.

Or just full of 'body Thetans' or other such nonsense. Nobody was posting to the other thread with this same BS.

24 posted on 05/30/2012 11:31:54 AM PDT by xone
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To: CodeToad; TheBigIf
Moreover, seeing as how almost all men past a certain age either die of or are going to die with prostate cancer- I guess all men are hateful - past a particular age - and particularly in our testicles.

Simple minded people like simple minded answers.

Rain falls on the just and the unjust alike.

If ONLY sickness didn't afflict the righteous, and only good things happened to good people, and those with love and faith didn't have children with cancer or other defects. But the universe just doesn't seem to work out that way.

Some people need to read about Job and give up their delusions that personal health is a sign of righteousness and sickness is a sign of sin.

Cancer is caused by somatic mutations - not a misalignment of the spirit.

25 posted on 05/30/2012 11:33:09 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: fabian

fabian said - “I am helping people….”

There is nothing wrong with trying to help people deal with stress (especially patients suffering with disease) or in helping people find salvation or find the Lord. I am all for these things.

fabian said - “….and you are quite blind, sadly.”

But it is you who are blind and not me in that you do not see how your ‘root cause’ argument is wrong and also hateful. To tell a child or anyone that their cancer is their fault because they are an angry hateful person or because they do not have real salvation is absolutely horrible and mean spirited. It is sick and cruel. It is unbeleivable to me that you can sit their and defend telling a child suffering from a fatal disease such things. It is you who are blind to your own hateful behavior.


26 posted on 05/30/2012 11:35:03 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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I’m wondering what sin an infant commits, to be diagnosed with cancer even before they learn to walk?


27 posted on 05/30/2012 11:36:04 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: TheBigIf

No, but your tone is mad...sorry, it is. Disagreement is fine, obviously.
And I did not say that the kids are hateful...but if you read my other reply, there are emotional issues going on there, often through the mom...or dad. Painful and difficult to see that, but it is true.


28 posted on 05/30/2012 11:39:14 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian

Interesting, but seems a bit new age. I was hoping to hear ‘Jesus’ in the message somewhere.


29 posted on 05/30/2012 11:39:53 AM PDT by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: fabian

Interesting, but seems a bit new age. I was hoping to hear ‘Jesus’ in the message somewhere.


30 posted on 05/30/2012 11:39:59 AM PDT by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: TheBigIf

No, I think there are real problem with the parents of young kids who get cancer, often. And if they end up dying, they will still be with God because they were so young and were not able to understand.
You are reacting emotional here and not really considering anything I have exposed.


31 posted on 05/30/2012 11:42:50 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian

This certainly makes life EASIER to live (many peoples lives are domineered by bullying, angry spirits that they have internalized) but it isn’t any guarantee of transforming this present cursed world into instant Eden II (in fact not even Jesus Christ bothered). The good thing is that people are being urged to get right with God. The bad thing is that too much is being claimed for that in this present world, and when newcomers fail they are tempted to give up on God as so much hooey.


32 posted on 05/30/2012 11:43:09 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Well, with a good intent, there is no failure. God is waiting in our conscience and is very powerful.


33 posted on 05/30/2012 11:45:44 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian
Fabian Society.

Fascinating.

34 posted on 05/30/2012 11:46:14 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: fabian

I was born with a bicuspid aortic valve. Left alone, no matter how spiritually perfect, I would die of either the subsequent chamber enlargement & wall thickening causing congestive heart failure, or of valve calcification blocking the beat signal. Two surgeries and electromechanical implants later, I’m fine until either the valve breaks or the wiring dislodges.

Kindly explain how spirituality would have resolved the problem of a hydraulically overloaded heart.


35 posted on 05/30/2012 11:49:14 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: allmendream
I guess all men are hateful - past a particular age - and particularly in our testicles.

Isn't that what NOW has been telling us for decades? :)

36 posted on 05/30/2012 11:50:58 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: allmendream

“read about Job and give up their delusions that personal health is a sign of righteousness and sickness is a sign of sin.”

I had a Born_Again friend that claime dhis wife’s thyroid issue was because she was not a “believer”. When she went to the doc and received medical treatment he claime dshe had sinned and demanded “penance”. She told him to piss off and she continued to take the meds prescribed. She got better. Her response to him was that either the devil had won over God and allowed her to be better by taking the meds or else God allowed her to use the meds. He didn’t have an answer. They never do.


37 posted on 05/30/2012 11:52:10 AM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: jackv
I was hoping to hear ‘Jesus’ in the message somewhere.

There is no Jesus in Royanity, at least not one who is the Son of God, and God Himself. No Trinity in Royanity.

38 posted on 05/30/2012 12:14:34 PM PDT by xone
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To: ctdonath2

I never wrote nor implied that there is no need to use doctors at time.
I don’t know about your heart and what the doctors told yyou would happen may or may not have been accurate. Often doctors are wrong!


39 posted on 05/30/2012 12:21:09 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: ctdonath2

I never wrote nor implied that there is no need to use doctors at time.
I don’t know about your heart and what the doctors told yyou would happen may or may not have been accurate. Often doctors are wrong!


40 posted on 05/30/2012 12:21:28 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: ctdonath2

I never wrote nor implied that there is no need to use doctors at time.
I don’t know about your heart and what the doctors told yyou would happen may or may not have been accurate. Often doctors are wrong!


41 posted on 05/30/2012 12:21:41 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: xone

Royanity? Never of of that one.


42 posted on 05/30/2012 12:26:34 PM PDT by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: jackv
Royanity

This guy's version of 'God'. Since he has no Christ in it as Christians do, I insert his name. Elsewhere this site has been hyped on FR, the last time this absence of Jesus wasn't obscured. Not many hits on that thread. I guess we are back to disguising this and repackaging it to look like something Christian. It is same old same old, but now we meditate.

43 posted on 05/30/2012 12:32:59 PM PDT by xone
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To: fabian

Again I honestly find your message to be mean spirited and cruel. To tell a child that the cause of their fatal disease is their parents being angry, hateful or being sinners is wrong. To tell an adult person that their disease is caused by their anger, negative emotions or their sinful nature is also mean spirited as well.

You claim that you have exposed some truth in this regard but I did not see any evidence at all presented by you in this thread or in the video you linked to. Please be specific and cite the evidence you are relying on for your claims.

I also am not reacting emotionally at all. It is 100% through logic that I find your claims to be wrong and mean spirited. If you can not logically see how your message can be cruel then it is you who are blind.


44 posted on 05/30/2012 12:38:29 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: xone
Oh ok! I even googled it! Haha!

I was hoping the exercise would draw on the power of Jesus. Letting go of our ego and pride and resentment are all definitely good but...a little spooky when he said a couple of times, once you stop this exercise, you may never get "it" back again. Hmmmmm.

45 posted on 05/30/2012 12:55:23 PM PDT by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: ctdonath2

“Kindly explain how spirituality would have resolved the problem of a hydraulically overloaded heart.”

Some Born-Again types believe that the Bible claims a perosn that sins has for four generations spite from God, so, your medical condition as a child was the result of someone having sinned in your family past and you were their punishment. I kid you not. They believe that with total conviction.

I was always taught that children were born innocent, yet, these type want to claim they are born of sin.


46 posted on 05/30/2012 1:22:31 PM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: jackv
once you stop this exercise, you may never get "it" back again. Hmmmmm.

Hmmmm is right, 'it' might just be a 'who'.

47 posted on 05/30/2012 1:23:09 PM PDT by xone
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To: CodeToad
I can buy the "original sin" concept. What's odd is they claim one can overcome physical ailments via spiritual purity, while failing to note that the whole point of the Crucifixion & Resurrection was that we cannot overcome spiritual failing on our own. If we grant, for sake of argument, that physical ailments can be cured by spiritual purity, there is nobody capable of reaching that level of purity - so let the doctors do as they must to intervene.

Am reminded of a joke ending with God saying "I sent you two boats and a helicopter, what more did you want?"

48 posted on 05/30/2012 1:29:51 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: TheBigIf

Many doctor know darned well that not handling stress well which is another name for evil....causes disease. What I am saying here is not crazy and there is no meaness other than what you are projecting” unwittingly. There are many many people that have been cured of cancer and worse diseases through a calming faith. Just do a little research....don’ask me to do your work for you. If you contact Colonel Monaco at patriot outreach which uses the coping strategies cd I am sure he can provide you some proof of what I write about.


49 posted on 05/30/2012 1:31:08 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: TheBigIf

Many doctor know darned well that not handling stress well which is another name for evil....causes disease. What I am saying here is not crazy and there is no meaness other than what you are projecting” unwittingly. There are many many people that have been cured of cancer and worse diseases through a calming faith. Just do a little research....don’ask me to do your work for you. If you contact Colonel Monaco at patriot outreach which uses the coping strategies cd I am sure he can provide you some proof of what I write about.


50 posted on 05/30/2012 1:31:25 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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