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To: OldEarlGray
Ok so according to you, we should just turn off our firewalls, uninstall antivirus software, stop using birth control, not wear a seatbelt, cancel our insurance... and anything else that isn't 100% absolutely effective.

That's your asinine argument.
Seriously, get back on your meds.
Also, I told you I don't even download music. You can't even keep track of the people you are lashing out at. I suspect you are one of those people who subscribed to PC Magazine and now you're an expert, right?
Stuxnet was installed by a user... by allowing autoplay to execute. Yes, a sandbox can stop that if used properly. Of course, all of the home users out there are still battling stuxnet, aren't they? Oh, right... it was never a problem for them. There are currently over 8600 windows devices on my network and to date, not a single one of them has been infected with stuxnet. The bigger danger to a typical PC user is people like you who mock solid advice.
Oh, and you can bloviate all you want... it's somewhat entertaining, but don't ever insinuate that I participate in illegal activity again. I don't appreciate it.

52 posted on 06/14/2012 8:52:31 PM PDT by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: FunkyZero

No Wiley, I think if you want to play in a sandbox, then it makes more sense to use the one created by the folks who wrote the operating system, instead of some ACME freeware thing you found on the internet.

Got VM?

[I suspect you are one of those people who subscribed to PC Magazine and now you’re an expert, right? ]

Tell us Wiley, what did you learn at TechEd this week? Were you in the penetration testing session? Did you attend the sessions where Stuxnet was injected into a VM network as a livefire demonstration? No?

Have a nice day, Wiley.


53 posted on 06/15/2012 3:51:16 AM PDT by OldEarlGray (The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sanitized with American Tea)
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To: FunkyZero

>>Stuxnet was installed by a user..

But not via 90% Web Surfing or 10% Email.

You don’t digest facts well. Perhaps there’s a freeware ACME gas reducer you could try to help with the cranial flatulence you seem to be experiencing?


55 posted on 06/15/2012 4:04:55 AM PDT by OldEarlGray (The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sanitized with American Tea)
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To: FunkyZero
>>Oh, right... it was never a problem for them
 
Until the gazelle is beaing eaten, the crocodile hidden in the watering hole is never a problem for them.
 
Got APT?    Yes, No?  How do you verify that when the certification process has been compromised?

56 posted on 06/15/2012 4:42:59 AM PDT by OldEarlGray (The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sanitized with American Tea)
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To: FunkyZero
There are currently over 8600 windows devices on my network and to date, not a single one of them has been infected with stuxnet.

I think that's largely because you probably don't run nuclear centrifuges located in Iran. Stuxnet was an extremely targeted virus. 

Not arguing the other points about sandboxing. I think it's a great idea. I go further and recommend VMs that can be easily reverted to known good states. Personally, I don't allow windows systems on my home network, but that's because I'm a Unix bigot, and it's my network, so I get to make the rules. :-)




59 posted on 06/15/2012 6:51:14 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: FunkyZero

[but don't ever insinuate that I participate in illegal activity again.]

I'm not the one shilling "free"ware with the idea that music should be downloaded from within a SandBoxie, Wiley.

You remind me of folks who think they're protected from AIDs because some pharmaceutical snake-oil company sold them a pill to protect them from the due penalty for their perversions.

http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/lamivudine/pseudomyxoma+peritonei

See Wiley, there's that "sa-God" complex vs the 1st commandment conflict articulated in Romans 1:20++, again.

That's a behavioral problem rooted in the calibration of the moral compass the operator's framework is booted with.

You sure you're not an apple administrator?
 
"Go ahead, take a byte, it's "free"..."


67 posted on 06/16/2012 7:42:37 AM PDT by OldEarlGray (The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sanitized with American Tea)
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To: FunkyZero

>>There are currently over 8600 windows devices on my network

8600 windoze devices on the ACME botnet ehh Wiley? {yawn}

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9200598/Group_used_30_000_node_botnet_in_MasterCard_PayPal_attacks

30,000 -- Well, that’s a little more impressive... for a non-government-sponsored bot-net anyhow.

“Both MasterCard and Visa also had their public websites knocked offline by a “hive” of as many as 3,000 activists who had downloaded Web-attacking software, which was then turned on different websites. “

{Sigh} Alas! If only Visa and Mastercard had worn a pair of these here ACME Sand-Boxers...

...the malware attacking them would've been a thing of the past and the organized cyber-criminals who perpetrate such mischief would've been discouraged from skimming their way out of Cyberia ever again. Alas!/s

68 posted on 06/16/2012 9:04:03 AM PDT by OldEarlGray (The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sanitized with American Tea)
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