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To: urtax$@work
Yes, good work. I'm so old that citizenship variables were taught in social studies classes in elementary and junior high school.

I learned that a natural born citizen is one in which " no further action was ever required to by a citizen with regard to his place or standing in our civil society" - and that is why Barack Obama and Marco Rubio, while being eligible for US representative status (questionable in Obama's case)are NOT qualified for the office of the presidency.

Rubio is a naturalized citizen and Obama's father was a British subject.

Obama MAY be a naturalized citizen, but there is not a generally accepted argument that he is even that.

I tend to almost believe that the so-called "botched swearing in redo" ceremony (attended to by Chief Justice Roberts without cameras) was likely an Obama oath of citizenship ceremony which is why the SC won't touch any "birther" claims - even the Supreme Court is complicit in the usurpation.

4 posted on 06/23/2012 7:02:53 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: atc23

I tend to almost believe that the so-called “botched swearing in redo” ceremony (attended to by Chief Justice Roberts without cameras) was likely an Obama oath of citizenship ceremony which is why the SC won’t touch any “birther” claims - even the Supreme Court is complicit in the usurpation

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I always thought it was because he wanted to be sworn in using the koran and not the Bible. He didn’t want us to know he’s muslim.

As for the issue at hand, I don’t believe Rubio is eligible. If he’s being vetted and they find he is not, I certainly hope they will be honest with us and bypass him.


5 posted on 06/23/2012 7:14:33 AM PDT by mardi59 (THE REBELLION IS ON!!!)
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To: atc23

“I tend to almost believe that the so-called “botched swearing in redo” ceremony (attended to by Chief Justice Roberts without cameras) was likely an Obama oath of citizenship ceremony which is why the SC won’t touch any “birther” claims - even the Supreme Court is complicit in the usurpation.”

Any evidence for that?

“The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term “natural born” citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship “by birth” or “at birth,” either by being born “in” the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship “at birth.” Such term, however, would not include a person who was not a U.S. citizen by birth or at birth, and who was thus born an “alien” required to go through the legal process of “naturalization” to become a U.S. citizen”

-”Qualifications for President and the ‘Natural Born’ Citizenship Eligibility Requirement”. Congressional Research Service report. Federation of American Scientists.


6 posted on 06/23/2012 7:16:21 AM PDT by Flightdeck (If you hear me yell "Eject, Eject, Eject!" the last two will be echos...)
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To: atc23
I tend to almost believe that the so-called "botched swearing in redo" ceremony (attended to by Chief Justice Roberts without cameras) was likely an Obama oath of citizenship ceremony which is why the SC won't touch any "birther" claims - even the Supreme Court is complicit in the usurpation.

I hadn't considered THAT! Truly stunning, if true. That would make Roberts complicit in this fraud.

7 posted on 06/23/2012 7:20:07 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: atc23; urtax$@work; Red Steel; David; LucyT; Brown Deer; Seizethecarp; Danae; GregNH; ...
Rubio is a naturalized citizen.

No, Rubio was born in the United States, making him a citizen at birth and eliminating the need to be naturalized.

But the issue of Rubio's NBC status or lack thereof, and theerefore his constitutional eligibility for the vice presidency (the eligibility requirements for VP are exactly the same as for President, according to the Twelfth Amendment), boils down to whether or not his foreign-born parents were naturalized by the time of his birth.

Does anyone know the date on which Marco Rubio's parents were naturalized?

22 posted on 06/23/2012 8:34:43 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: atc23

Even the usurper acknowledged the definition of TWO CITIZEN PARENTS when he signed SR 511 in committee. He signed it again when it went to the Senate. Every Senator who signed the resolution to vet McCain can’t wiggle out of it now. By SCOTUS’ own words, they are “evading” the NBC issue. They’re evading it because they know he’s not eligible. The big question is why was it Roberts who did the swearing in? Why wasn’t it a lefty? Who decided it’d be Roberts? The answer is whatever went on behind closed doors, Roberts was party to it so now they have power over him. It’s the same with Congress who signed off on the TWO CITIZEN PARENTS definition. They allowed it to happen and now they’d lose everything if they dare speak up.


30 posted on 06/23/2012 8:57:50 AM PDT by bgill
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To: atc23

Rubio is NOT naturalized. He was born in Miami, Florida.

His parents were Cuban refugees who were naturalized when he was four years old. There are those who hold that a “natural born citizen” should be one whose parents were citizens at the time of birth and who therefore hold that Rubio is ineligible for that reason.

However, the constitution did not clarify that point and, according to those who know constitutional law, that is not the prevailing opinion among the legal establishment.

If Rubio is nominated, he will be considered eligible. After Obama’s election, the question of required parental citizenship is probably over.


80 posted on 06/23/2012 6:43:41 PM PDT by Jedidah
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