Skip to comments.Can this happen in dealing with Obamacare?
Posted on 06/28/2012 11:39:22 PM PDT by MacMattico
Eric Cantor has scheduled a "repeal Obamacare" vote for July 11th. Because the mandate was defined as a tax, can the House simply repeal the tax, as they have the power of taxation?
Would this effectively cancel the mandate, causing the bill to implode on itself?
It can't be this simple, I know I'm missing something.
I think for your plan to work, the Republicans would have to have spines, instead of being subservient lick-spittle worms who cower at the thought of confronting Obama and his host of Orcs in the House and Senate.
Other than that, sounds good to me.
I’ve wondered this too.. Could be grounds for another lawsuit headed to SCOTUS since Roberts “changed” what 0bamacare is.
I say great. Even though it will die in the Senate, make the reps stand up and be accountable for their vote1
Right now I’m sick to my stomach and tired of ‘hoping’ people we think are on our side will do something. I’m also tired of hearing how Roberts did us a favor. Sorry, needed rant. To ticked off to hope this happens.
No, the house alone can’t repeal anything.
Oh, I’m with you. I’ve gone after Roberts on other threads. I was just hoping, probably out of desperation. :(
“Ive wondered this too.. Could be grounds for another lawsuit headed to SCOTUS since Roberts changed what 0bamacare is.”
First let me say that I agree that this case ranks up there with Roe v Wade and Dread Scott.
But, actually Roberts didn’t change the law in his ruling.
My wife is an attorney and she says that the justices don’t have to follow only the arguments given by the defense.
If they see other ways that a case can win they have the right, a duty even since they are supposed to be seeking justice, to add to the case.
He argued that it is constitutional when viewed as a tax. He is wrong, but has that right to view it that way.
(We are doomed to TSA style health care. Thanks, Bush!)
However the House *can* put up a bill forcing a bunch of vulnerable Senators to declare themselves on what may be the most hated bill in history, right before an election.
It’s a pressure point.
OMG, that was funny!
Thank you for the laugh on such a dark day.
Doesn’t matter. It’s all for show.
They don’t have the votes to sustain it and Obama will veto.
Harry Reid won’t just table it, the repeal will be placed in a dark and dank closet.
The Senate will never see it and Barry will be immune from any action.
My understanding . . . just because O and his minions call it something else, or by any other name . . . its still a tax. And voted on by both houses and signed by the president.
Now its up to the people to decide by electing their representatives to keep it as is or repeal.
Not much analysis required beyond that.
Doesn’t work. Once a tax is in effect, the house and the senate both have to pass a repeal.
I wonder if there are any Demrat legislators who would have
voted against Obumblecare if it had been sold as what it really
is, a mega-tax increase......
What you're missing is the utterly destructive legal precedent that Roberts established today, one that will be cited by future courts to uphold the most outrageous, egregious and coercive punitive taxes imaginable.
Not really; Roberts said essentially that when the mandate was originally passed, the Congress was within its authority to do so even though they got the reason for that authority wrong. In other words, when it passed, it was passed as a tax even though everyone thought it was going through under the Commerce Clause.
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