[Marine_Uncle]

Think I'll bookmark this one. Perhaps the Independence Day celebrations of the future will be carried out in far different conditions then have been the case. Hope not, but facts surrounding that old Maunder Minimum period just doesn't go away.
And a happy 4th to you.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Thanks.

Just got off the phone with my daughter,....she is up in the High Desert just above the Cajon pass and it is Hot up there....) 100+

Rather cool and overcast down here ...75 at the moment.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Some genuine discussion going on with this article at WUWT.....

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• sean2829 says:

  July 4, 2012 at 7:29 am

  A few months back on the SolarHam.net message board, a commenter asked Dr. Svalgaard if the weakening magnetic fields measured by Livingston and Penn is what caused the Dalton minimum. Leif’s answer was most interesting. He saw the Dalton min. as part of the natural 100 year ebb and flow of weak and strong cycles. He then went on to say that the Maunder minumum was a manifestation of what L&P are observing now. This is the strongest suggestion I’ve seen from Leif that we may be headed into more than just a Dalton like minimum. Previously, Dr Svalgaard has said the probability we are headed for a Dalton type minumum is high but we only had a low probability for a Maunder type episode. If Dr. Svalgaard reads this note I’d like to ask him three questions. First, has the probability between Dalton vs. Maunder type events changed in his opinion for the next few decades, second, what type of evidence does he have beyond the L&P effect to support that probability and third, will there any any peer reviewed publications in the near future to discuss where the sun might be headed?

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Some genuine discussion going on with this article at WUWT.....

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• sean2829 says:

  July 4, 2012 at 7:29 am

  A few months back on the SolarHam.net message board, a commenter asked Dr. Svalgaard if the weakening magnetic fields measured by Livingston and Penn is what caused the Dalton minimum. Leif’s answer was most interesting. He saw the Dalton min. as part of the natural 100 year ebb and flow of weak and strong cycles. He then went on to say that the Maunder minumum was a manifestation of what L&P are observing now. This is the strongest suggestion I’ve seen from Leif that we may be headed into more than just a Dalton like minimum. Previously, Dr Svalgaard has said the probability we are headed for a Dalton type minumum is high but we only had a low probability for a Maunder type episode. If Dr. Svalgaard reads this note I’d like to ask him three questions. First, has the probability between Dalton vs. Maunder type events changed in his opinion for the next few decades, second, what type of evidence does he have beyond the L&P effect to support that probability and third, will there any any peer reviewed publications in the near future to discuss where the sun might be headed?