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A loving mother's advice: Hit the road, son (How I convinced my son to leave home)
Los Angeles Times ^ | 08/07/2012 | Kerry Madden

Posted on 08/07/2012 7:11:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: wbill
I'm still not getting over paying 100K for a film major. When would they start to see a return on that kind of investment?

My nephew graduated from film school (film editing) last year.No,he's not a pervert...he's a film fan who's also a technogeek.My sister paid a lot more than $100K.Before he entered I begged her to send him to the state university (where he had a full four year scholarship) but little "Jimmy" wanted the $120K school.Today,he's traveling 120 miles a day,3 days a week to make about $5/hr (I guess he's an "independent contractor" or something).He's a great kid but has the maturity of a 10 year old and my sister can never say "no" to him (she was widowed about 8 years ago).

21 posted on 08/07/2012 7:57:17 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Word Is Out,Harry Reid's Into Child Porn.Release All Your Photos,Harry!)
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To: TheWriterTX
Yep. I live about 20 min from Mom and Dad now. Or, "Close enough so that we can get together any time we want, but far enough away so that we need to call before coming". :-)

Makes it handy, Mrs WBill leans on them during the day for lots of grandkid-sitting. It's pretty much a win-win-win for everybody.

We've had a few lean times. Mom and Dad have always offered - "You can move back in with us if you need to." I've told them, "No offense, but if I ask, it means that we're 1 step removed from a cardboard box on a steam grate." It's still nice to have a net to land on, but nicer not to use it.

When my family was moving into a new house just recently, there were a few complications with the closing. We wound up staying with Mom and Dad for about a week while things were getting sorted out. Frankly, that was long enough. :-)

22 posted on 08/07/2012 8:03:51 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Mr. K
How they ever got to Flagstaff, is a mystery to me. Bucksnort Ar. is way off I-40, and with a low tire finally made it to OKC, totally in another direction from Bucksnort, Ar..............
23 posted on 08/07/2012 8:04:59 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will j rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: SeekAndFind

The bottom line is a kid has to have some skin in the game. I have a Jr and Sr in high school. They both have jobs and it’s pretty nice I am not dishing out money to them when they are out with friends. They are saving and enjoying the summer at their expense....not mine.


24 posted on 08/07/2012 8:12:23 AM PDT by oust the louse (Obamacare has morphed into a tax on staying alive.)
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To: Breto

My dad gave each of his children a suit case for high school graduation.


25 posted on 08/07/2012 8:14:08 AM PDT by patriotsoul
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To: SeekAndFind

Kid should have taken out his own college loans. I doubt very seriously that he would have signed for $100,000. Parents are idiots.


26 posted on 08/07/2012 8:19:17 AM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: jboot

Flannery will get you nowhere.


27 posted on 08/07/2012 8:32:21 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: SeekAndFind

By the time I got to the part about her cleaning up the driveway after sonny-boy and friends, I was ready to vomit myself.

If my kids are that needy and self-centered in their 20s, I will officially declare myself a failed parent, not writing articles showing it off.


28 posted on 08/07/2012 8:42:36 AM PDT by workerbee (June 28, 2012 -- 9/11 From Within)
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To: SeekAndFind

Were Flannery a graduate with a degree related to the Oil and Gas Industry, he’d have a starting salary of about $80,000 and would be paying off his student loans himself.

However, that would require that he would be able to do math, something that seems to have escaped the past two generations of Americans. The totally worthless Dept. of Miseducation ought to be investigating that serious deficiency because it is dangerous to our nation’s future.


29 posted on 08/07/2012 8:52:02 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: SeekAndFind

M two boys were good kids, one about 23 the other about 21 when my wife and I decided that after 22 years in the Navy we were going to build and move into our own permanent new house. The builder told us that we could close and move in in 7-8 months. We informed the boys that we would be moving within that timeframe, and that they would not be moving with us, so it was time to find other arrangements. After a few moments of silence, they looked at each other and said “cool!”. I was completely speechless, having expected recriminations and a battle. It was the best thing we ever did for them, I think. 16 years later both area successful in their lives, with wonderful families and they even come visit us occasionally. You just gotta let them grow.


30 posted on 08/07/2012 8:53:39 AM PDT by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: oust the louse

My story briefly. I worked since I was 10. I started cutting grass, moved to a steel mill and then tried college - which I could not afford. After 6 years in the Navy the GI bill put me through college. Then I got a job in Texas and never looked back. The biggest debt that I had was $1500 for a nice engagement ring. All of my children moved out after college. I always figured the ideal distance between me and my parents was 250 + miles. I have always been independent, but I was prepared and had some good breaks.


31 posted on 08/07/2012 8:55:09 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: bboop
How about scholarships. I have seven grandchildren, six have either graduated or still attending college. Not one dime, except books for some have been spent by their parents.........
32 posted on 08/07/2012 8:57:04 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will j rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: eartrumpet

She’s waaay past 18, but I still don’t think her butt looks like a junk car...:)


33 posted on 08/07/2012 9:01:21 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: kabumpo

C’mon, you know they are the exception not the rule.


34 posted on 08/07/2012 9:11:31 AM PDT by jrestrepo (See you all in Galt's gulch)
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To: SeekAndFind

On his 18th birthday, one guy I know came downstairs for breakfast to find his plate broken and his fork bent backwards. He got the hint.


35 posted on 08/07/2012 9:13:05 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: wbill

That’s what we did. Son lived with us for a few months after he got out of the navy. Then found someone to split the rent on a house while he was in college. The roommate was a deadbeat and didn’t help pay the rent so he moved back in with us for awhile. He never asked a dime from us, and was adamant that we don’t help him over and above a room to live in. We didn’t mind him being home for awhile. He saved his money, got married in May. He’s going to school and working. He graduates December of this year. Wife has a degree. They have no college loans - both are very thrifty. He was home only as long as he needed to be. We’re glad to have the house to ourselves!


36 posted on 08/07/2012 9:14:28 AM PDT by sneakers (Go Sheriff Joe!)
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To: Gay State Conservative
3 days a week to make about $5/hr

So....at that rate, he'd only need to work 20 years to break even. :-)

The politically correct thing to say is: "Well, he's getting a foot in the door. We all started out at the bottom. Etc." But, since we're all FReepers here, I can say that it sounds like a lot of money is getting flushed.

If the kid is techie, then he'll find another niche as soon as he gets hungry enough. There aren't many smart, technically-oriented people waiting in line at soup kitchens.

But, the short term will be tough to watch.

37 posted on 08/07/2012 9:18:54 AM PDT by wbill
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To: sneakers
Smart move on your part.

Not starting in a hole made *everything* easier for me. So many of my friends went deep in debt with college loans. Or, ran up their credit cards while working towards a permanent fulltime position. Or, did both, while buying a car, etc etc etc.

Tough to be successful when you're already a monthly house payment's worth (or more) of debt behind, before even buying a house.

38 posted on 08/07/2012 9:24:40 AM PDT by wbill
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To: SeekAndFind
An actor-director-musician-screenwriter...

That spells either "genius" or "loser." No middle ground there.

39 posted on 08/07/2012 9:33:23 AM PDT by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: blueunicorn6

I get the hint his parents were a**holes,....and cowards,too!

Sheesh,some of you sound quite sensible ,but some sound not like tough love but wild animals .

Sure ,teach your kids to work and be responsible.


40 posted on 08/07/2012 9:39:47 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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