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To: mlizzy
This whole "debate" has been framed to benefit the left-wing pro-homosexual people. First, having attraction to members of the same sex does not make you a member of some separate race of people. It means you are a regular person with a sexual disorder. Referring to people as "gay" in the same way some people are white, some black, some asian, etc. frames the entire debate as if homosexuals should be treated as a separate race of people rather than as human beings with a disorder. That is wrong, and every time we, as conservatives, play into that narrative, we already surrender the debate.

It is easy for kids these days to be brainwashed into thinking that "gay rights" is a civil rights issue when we allow gays to thought of as a separate race. After all, if blacks can't help being black and they suffered through slavery and Jim Crow, then why wouldn't we view gays the same way? But once you reframe the debate to where homosexuals are regular people, except they have a sexual disorder, then the entire concept of a civil rights struggle goes away. As long as we treat them and view them as a separate race of people, all of the civil rights arguments stay in place, and those false arguments are used to make the younger generation sympathetic toward all gay causes.

With regards to this father's letter, if we assume it to be true and accurate (what grown man prints a letter like this? It looks like something a kid would write), it should be seen this way: if the son had come to his father and said "Dad, I am struggling with a sexual attraction to men" the father would most likely have been alarmed and would have looked for ways to fix or avert the problem, rather than disowning his son. However, when the son says "I'm coming out officially and declaring myself GAY", this implies that not only does the son have a sexual attraction to men, but that HE HAS EMBRACED not only the sexual nature, but the label and the lifestyle. This is the kid telling his dad that he has thought it over and decided that homosexual behavior is the way to go, and he is going to embrace it fully. Simply having the feelings is not grounds for disowning, but MAKING A DECISION TO EMBRACE A LIFESTYLE is.

I see the kid's official coming out message as sort of an in-your-face challenge to the dad, daring him to reject the kid's choice. And, in doing so, the kid actually betrays the father because he puts the father in a position of either accepting the homosexual lifestyle or rejecting his son. It's the Devil's choice: either 1) embrace homosexuality as normal and healthy and discard your own beliefs, or 2) look like an a-hole for rejecting your son (especially when the son posts your letter on the internet). The son is responsible for this whole mess, and kudos to the dad for making what would inevitably be the harder choice: going against the politically correct, pop-culture opinion. After all, we saw what the Left tried to do to Dan Cathy after he merely expressed his beliefs. The dad here knew he faced the same potential disfavor and harassment.
43 posted on 08/08/2012 1:37:44 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak

“I see the kid’s official coming out message as sort of an in-your-face challenge to the dad, daring him to reject the kid’s choice.”

We don’t know what the ‘kid’ - OK, man in his late 20s - told his father. I’d bet you are right. Given how so many queers demand acceptance and support, he probably told his Dad how proud he was to be queer, and how his Dad could accept him like that or never speak to him again.

I had a child try that with me once over premarital sex. I could ‘accept’ it and be supportive, or they wouldn’t talk to me and I would never see any grandchild. I took them up on it and told them I did NOT approve & would not be blackmailed into pretending otherwise. If that meant no communication, so be it. It was over a year before we talked again.

If it had been 10 years, or 20, so be it.

Homosexual marriage is not about marriage, but about forcing heterosexuals to show approval of the ‘gay’ lifestyle. If I was the unfortunate father of this guy, I’d post something in public saying his behavior was evil and perverted, and that I do not and will never approve of it.


64 posted on 08/08/2012 5:48:50 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberalism: "Ex faslo quodlibet" - from falseness, anything follows)
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To: fr_freak

You have said this exactly right, and very succinctly. This IS the correct view of things. Thanks you for your words.


71 posted on 08/08/2012 9:05:36 AM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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