Posted on 08/10/2012 8:56:53 PM PDT by goodn'mad
But it looks like that is exactly what Romney is trying to do.
He is no conservative, but Ryan certainly is and they are both knowledgeable about budgeting and business.
Obama and Romney are NOT the same. Romney has real accomplishments and has made something from nothing and employed hundreds of thousands of people along the way. Obama has flapped his blue lips and killed millions of jobs in the process with his incompetence.
Regardless of Romney's Leftist proclivities, which I acknowledge, the ONLY REAL issue in this election is the economy. Without a strong economic recovery and a REAL change to the structural deficit of the budgetary process, We are doomed to fall into a financial Armageddon and it will be impossible to dig our way out and will happen much much sooner than anyone expects. Romney is our only hope, and with Ryan as VP we just MAY stand a chance.
Why should’nt we play?
So Romney is a Rook or a Knight, maybe even a Pawn.
But, politicians are not the only players, if WE say so,
Why should’nt we play?
So Romney is a Rook or a Knight, maybe even a Pawn.
But, politicians are not the only players, if WE say so,
Thanks...I needed that. Maybe this is his strategy. I sure hope so. Muhammed Ali picked up a good strategy as he grew older and lost his speed i.e. he let his opponent wear himself out through a flurry of punches. Ali merely leaned against the ropes and deflected the punches until his opponent was worn down and then delivered the KO. It’s possible, I guess.
“I did not speak of Massachusetts, only his experience as a businessman. As for his governorship, he left the state in better financial situation than he found it, yet he erred far too often by acquiescing to the Leftist Dems that infest that state.”
He did not “acquiesce” to the Dems. That is pure RINO-crap spin. He led the charge. The proof is that he even had his RomneyCare bill enshrined in official portraits of himself because he was so proud of it. He still defends his actions today. He enthusiastically embraced leftist policies to outleft the left in that state. As for leaving it in a better “financial “ state. I highly doubt that, unless transferring large portions of their healthcare spending to the federal government helped achieve that.
“Obama and Romney are NOT the same. Romney has real accomplishments and has made something from nothing and employed hundreds of thousands of people along the way. Obama has flapped his blue lips and killed millions of jobs in the process with his incompetence.”
Romney’s real “accomplishments” consists of RomneyCare, apparently designed by the same socialist that helped design ObamaCare. Seeing as how that is the truth, I suspect his “success” at Bain could have been accomplished by any warm body. It’s funny that he can’t even use his governorship in Mass. as an “accomplishment,” even though it actually matters far more than anything else.
My 1st choice for VP is definately Allen West. A retired military man, black, says it like it is....we could do a lot worse. I don’t think Obama would know how to handle him. But I understand that the VP pick is Paul Ryan. I like him to.
Thanks for your feedback, bigbob. I’m a civilian (also retired military man) living and working overseas. I was home during the summer. I drove several hundred miles to get my absentee ballot squared away. I’m a “broken glass” Republican, especially this election. Obama and his minions has scared the crap out of me and I’ll vote for anybody who runs against him. Romney wasn’t my 1st choice but I’ll vote for him to get rid of Obama. I think (and hope) that there are millions like me who will crawl over 10 miles of broken glass to get rid of this bunch. The nation’s existance is at stake.
They'll just sweep in her thighness of cankels, and Mitty will lose.
Well now, quoting stats put forth by David Axelrod are we? I'm only giving this a one post reply.
Did you know the 2005 unemployment rate in MA was 4.8%? 4% is essentially full employment. How much "business growth" can you have when the State is fully employed? Does that factor into your Axelrod "factoid" on MA's "business growth"?
Reported by PolitiFact:
"According to a spokesman, the Romney campaign calculated the yearly percentage increase or decrease in job growth for each of Romney’s four years in office. So from December 2002 to December 2003, the job growth in Massachusetts was 51st highest nationally out of 50 states plus the District of Columbia -- in other words, dead last. The following year, it was 46th, then 40th, then in Romney’s final year in office -- December 2005 to December 2006 -- it was 30th in the nation.
Looking at the statistics in this way advances the Romney camp’s argument that, while Massachusetts’ overall job growth under Romney was among the lowest of any state, the trendline over time puts his tenure in a more favorable light. A state that was a doormat in job growth at the beginning of his tenure rose into the broad middle of the rankings by the end of it.
We did our own math and found the exact same results as the Romney camp. So we agree that the numbers back up Fehrnstrom’s general argument that job growth rates in the state improved over the course of Romney’s governorship relative to other states."
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jun/05/eric-fehrnstrom/mitt-romney-campaign-says-job-growth-massachusetts/
“Well now, quoting stats put forth by David Axelrod are we? I’m only giving this a one post reply.
Did you know the 2005 unemployment rate in MA was 4.8%? 4% is essentially full employment. How much “business growth” can you have when the State is fully employed? Does that factor into your Axelrod “factoid” on MA’s “business growth”?
Reported by PolitiFact:
“According to a spokesman, the Romney campaign calculated the yearly percentage increase or decrease in job growth for each of Romney’s four years in office. So from December 2002 to December 2003, the job growth in Massachusetts was 51st highest nationally out of 50 states plus the District of Columbia — in other words, dead last. The following year, it was 46th, then 40th, then in Romney’s final year in office — December 2005 to December 2006 — it was 30th in the nation.
Looking at the statistics in this way advances the Romney camp’s argument that, while Massachusetts’ overall job growth under Romney was among the lowest of any state, the trendline over time puts his tenure in a more favorable light. A state that was a doormat in job growth at the beginning of his tenure rose into the broad middle of the rankings by the end of it.”
Apparently the vast majority of job losses were in manufacturing, a little more than 11 percent, whereas the healthcare services and “business professionals” increased the most, thus accounting for your drop. Which is not surprising, considering RomneyCare. The same thing will probably happen under ObamaCare once it kicks in. Real jobs will be lost, while government jobs and jobs associated with entitlements will boom.
http://news.yahoo.com/mixed-job-picture-romney-mass-governor-131712965.html
Considering Mass. was one of the highest taxed states in the union, and was a victim to an unethical and statist takeover of their healthcare system as well as other gimmicks and fees, it is not surprising that Romney fled the state. I wouldn’t want to live in that hell hole either.
As for the rest of your Post, you are not alone FRiend.
The glass shards are a little sharper with Romney as the Nominee, but the enemy here isn't the Republican. Romney might be a fair weather friend to Conservatives, but we at least will have some impact on his decisions with the help of a Republican House AND Senate. There will be no consideration of our positions with Obama simply because he HATES everything we as Conservatives stand for. He does not just disagree with us, he HATES us, and I have never thought a sitting President, Democrat or Republican was capable of HATING a plurality of the Citizens of this great land. Obama has proven that for the last four years and he will only get worse when given an unlimited mantle of power that he will unleash with the Mandate his Reelection will promote, real or imagined. To a Liberal Progressive a One Percent win is considered a Mandate, as long as they are the ones who win the Election.
Unfortunately, probably not in our lifetime.
When he's the nominee, officially, see what happens.
Mr. RomneyCARE always loses.
THAT is why he was carefully selected ... by the DNC.
Funny, I thought the GOP primary process did that.
Listen, you winers need to think why your guy/gal didn’t get the nomination. Was it the “RINO’s” colluding together to screw over your candidate, or were there fundamental flaws with each of your candidates that lessened their appeal?
Seems like Reagan didn’t have a problem bringing in the moderates to his cause. Why did your guy fail?
You can biatch and moan about how the GOP-e conspired against you personally, but the fact remains that your candidate did not generate the votes. That’s how it works.
As a side question: it has been pointed out by some here that they consider themselves conservatives and not Republican (I personally consider myself both). If that’s the case, why do you even care who we nominate as our party’s candidate?
I’m very excited about the prospect of Ryan being on the ticket. He would have been my choice for the top of the ballot, but here we are.
First things first we must eradicate the cancer and then we must treat the patient. Romney will not only have to deal with the rats he will have to deal with us
“You can biatch and moan about how the GOP-e conspired against you personally, but the fact remains that your candidate did not generate the votes. That’s how it works.”
That IS how it works. It’s called a primary. The candidates went head to head, toe to toe. The one with the most votes eventually won. Two of my preferred candidates did not generate sufficient votes. Does that mean I hope Obama wins this Fall? Hardly
Are these people nuts? According to FR’s 2012 definition of conservative, there aren’t ANY!! not one!!
A quote from the Gipper, he used to be considered a conservative until 2012.
“When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn’t like it.
“Compromise” was a dirty word to them and they wouldn’t face the fact that we couldn’t get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don’t get it all, some said, don’t take anything.
I’d learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: ‘I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.’
If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that’s what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it”.
Ronald Reagan on politics and compromise from his autobiography
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