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New Savage Model 42 22LR/410 Shotshell Combination Gun
gunblast.com ^ | 17 August, 2012 | Jeff Quinn

Posted on 08/24/2012 3:03:40 PM PDT by marktwain

Savage Arms has a history of producing good-shooting, affordable combination guns. Unlike many of the European combo guns that cost more than a new pickup truck, the Savage Model 24 that was built in the 1950s, 60s, and 70s provided shooters, campers, hunters, and survivalists with handy firearms that would fire both rifle and shotgun ammunition, at prices that most folks could afford. However, several variations of these discontinued Model 24 combination guns are now fetching princely sums of money, as most folks who have these guns are not willing to part with them. If you do find one for sale, they are sometimes in pretty rough condition, as these were working guns; riding in pickup trucks and living in the woods much of the time.

Savage has now introduced a thoroughly modernized version of the Model 24, called the Model 42. Instead of blued steel and walnut, the Model 42 wears a matte black finish on the receiver and a satin black finish on the barrels, all fitted into a lightweight black polymer stock. The forend is slim and easy to grasp, with long finger-grooves on each side, and texturing along the bottom. It is very comfortable to hold. The buttstock has a generous pistol grip, also textured for a secure hold. The polymer is impervious to harsh weather and rough handling. The recoil pad is soft and effective, and the black stock is accented with red butt pad, pistol grip cap, and forend cap spacers. “Savage Arms” is proudly shown in red letters along each side of the forend. The action is a non-ferrous casting, with the barrels, mono-block, trigger, hammer, and other small parts made of steel. Thankfully, the Model 42 has sling studs, as should any such firearm that is meant to live in the great outdoors. The barrels measure twenty inches in length. Each barrel measures .555 inch diameter. As far as I can tell, the 410 barrel has no choke constriction, and it is not threaded to accept choke tubes.

To open the action of the Model 42 for loading, a lever in front of the trigger guard is pulled rearward by the shooter’s trigger finger. The mono-block hinges to allow loading and unloading of the weapon. The upper barrel accepts any 22 Long Rifle cartridge (a 22 Magnum version will be available later), and the bottom barrel accepts any 2.5 or 3 inch 410 shotshell. The crossbolt safety pushes to the left to fire. The rebounding hammer is blocked from contacting the firing pins unless the trigger is pulled. The hammer nose rotates to select either the upper or lower barrel to fire. The extractor is manually operated, but I found it easier to just flick out the empty 22 cartridges with my fingernail, using the extractor to remove the empty 410 hulls.

The Model 42 is very light and handy, weighing in at just under four and three-quarters pounds (4 lbs., 10.6 ounces, to be precise) on my scale. The overall length measures thirty-five and three-quarters inches, and the length of pull measures thirteen and one-half inches. The trigger pull feels somewhat heavy, but released crisply with five and one-half pounds of resistance, as measured on my Lyman digital scale.

I tested the Model 42 combo gun to check for velocities from the twenty-inch rifle barrel with several brands of 22 Long Rifle ammunition. I also shot some of the 000 Federal buck across the chronograph to check for velocity from the 410 barrel. The results with each brand and type of ammunition are listed in the chart below. HP is a lead hollowpoint bullet. Solid is a lead roundnose bullet. Velocity readings were taken at an elevation of 541 feet above sea level, with an air temperature of eighty-nine degrees Fahrenheit, and humidity in the fifty-one percent range. Velocities are listed in feet-per-second (FPS), and were recorded ten feet from the muzzle of the rifle and shotgun barrels. Bullet weights are listed in grains.

Ammunition Bullet Weight Velocity

Federal Bulk HP 36 1266

Winchester DynaPoint HP 40 1168

PMC Match Solid 40 1069

Wolf Match Solid 40 1022

CCI Mini-Mag HP 36 1265

CCI Mini-Mag Solid 40 1222

CCI Velocitor HP 40 1397

Remington Yellow Jacket HP 33 1423

Remington Hi-Speed Solid 40 1254

American Eagle HP 36 1158

PMC Zapper HP 38 1276

Olin Solid 40 1043

Winchester XPert HP 36 1197

Hansen Solid 40 1121

CCI Blazer Solid 40 1224

CCI Stinger HP 32 1515

CCI Quiet22 40 690

Federal 000 Buckshot 4x62 1090

The polymer mechanical sights proved to be plenty accurate enough to shoot very good groups at twenty-five yards, even with my aging eyes. The rear sight is removable for the attachment of a scope mount, but I did not have one available, so used the Model 42 with the supplied mechanical sights only. The rear sight is adjustable for both windage and elevation correction. The shotgun barrel patterned very well using buckshot, birdshot, and the Winchester PDX1 ammunition. The three-inch chamber will accommodate any 2.5 or three inch 410 shotshell.

Many shooters frown at the perceived power of the 410, and doubt its effectiveness. The 410 pellets hit the target just as hard as do the pellets thrown from a larger gauge shotgun; they just do not have as many pellets in the pattern. Birds and small game are killed with just a few pellets, so the 410 is plenty capable of taking small game out to twenty yards or so with the 410 barrel of this Model 42. Beyond that, the pattern gets pretty sparse, so the hunter should select the upper 22 Long Rifle barrel at greater distances.

The Model 42 functioned perfectly, with one exception. Early on in the shooting, the hammer spring strut slipped out of engagement with the hammer. I removed the buttstock and put it back into place, and no further problems were encountered. Maybe the hammer strut was not fully engaged with its notch before leaving the factory; I don’t know. Anyway, that was the only problem noted, and the Model 42 continued to function one hundred percent after that incident.

The Savage Model 42 would make a dandy trail gun, truck gun, survival gun, or companion around the camp. The 22 Long Rifle cartridge is very efficient, and useful for collecting critters for the camp pot, and the 410 barrel patterns well enough for bird hunting at close range. The 410 is also very useful for dispatching venomous snakes around camp, or around the home. The 410 is also an effective defensive weapon against predators of the human type, using buckshot or the PDX1 defensive ammunition.

The Model 42 is a modernized version of an old classic. It is lighter, shorter, and handier than its predecessor. While the new Model 42 might not be as visually appealing to traditional shooters, the old Model 24 was not exactly a handsome gun. The beauty of the new Model 42 lies in its versatility, handiness, and function. It is like the multi-tool of the firearms world, providing shooters a variety of ammunition choices in one handy package.

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1 posted on 08/24/2012 3:03:55 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Cost?


2 posted on 08/24/2012 3:08:13 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1313 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: marktwain

GunBroker shows one available for $400. With the advanced materials, I expect the price to come down considerably. It should be incredibly cheap to produce.


3 posted on 08/24/2012 3:09:07 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Around 15 years ago I owned a Tikka combination gun. It was a .243 over a 12 gauge. It was more expensive than the Savage/Stevens but not all that expensive.

The .243 used a flip up rear sight. It actually had a very good sight picture. That .243 barrel was about as good as they get. I could consistently get half inch groups at 50 yards and I suspect it would have been super accurate if I had any way to add a scope.


4 posted on 08/24/2012 3:12:30 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: marktwain

all my guns sank with my boat.

I have a skeeter swatter and a tent stake to defend my self.

Obama would smile.


5 posted on 08/24/2012 3:16:52 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: marktwain

Nice! I love Savage guns and that’s a sweet combination. The .22 magnum version would be perfect.


6 posted on 08/24/2012 3:17:50 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: marktwain

Cool! I have one of the old ones. It’s in good shape, and yes, it’s a very handy varmint gun. My little buddy.


7 posted on 08/24/2012 3:17:59 PM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: marktwain

Love it. Thanks for posting.


8 posted on 08/24/2012 3:21:49 PM PDT by Jimmy4Toes (I like me and my gun.)
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To: marktwain

I wonder if it shoots the 45 colt like the Judge does. 454 Casull would be good also.


9 posted on 08/24/2012 3:23:25 PM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: marktwain
I WILL be buying one of these. I had one many years ago and liked it, but it was pretty heavy. This new model is much lighter. I'll probably wait for the 22wmr model which they say will be out soon.
10 posted on 08/24/2012 3:24:32 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: marktwain

Me likey. Christmas, unless we’re in the 0bamapocalypse by then.


11 posted on 08/24/2012 3:27:00 PM PDT by Noumenon (Obama 2012: Zimbabwe without the airfare)
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To: ottbmare; All
“Cool! I have one of the old ones. It’s in good shape, and yes, it’s a very handy varmint gun. My little buddy.”

I recently saw an old Stevens .22/20 gauge in near new condition, on sale in a gun store in Dallas. It was discounted to $250.

It is a cool concept, but I have found that several dedicated guns work better for me. I would like this one a lot better if they had made double trigger model. I am not partial to the hammer selector.

It seems to me the competition it has to beat are all the used 12 gauge pump guns out there for $200, or those who would rather have a Savage semi-auto model 64 for $139 brand new, with a used single shot shotgun of any gauge for $100.

12 posted on 08/24/2012 3:29:17 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: mountainlion
I wonder if it shoots the 45 colt like the Judge does.

I wondered that too. It will shoot .410 slugs though. I don't know how they would compare but here is a site with some data on .410 slugs.

Ballistic Testing of Select 410 slugs.

13 posted on 08/24/2012 3:40:34 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: hadaclueonce

Is that a 12 GA skeeter swatter?


14 posted on 08/24/2012 3:43:16 PM PDT by ontap
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To: basil
Hey Santa. Take a look at this!! Will talk to wife and daughter about one of these under the tree!!

basil, something for SAS list too. I just got an unneeded M1911 from my FIL this week.

15 posted on 08/24/2012 3:48:12 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (RINO season is open. No limit. Make them extinct.)
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To: marktwain

There wouldn’t have been a squirrel left on the place that wasn’t paranoid if I had one of those when I was 13. 22 short hollow point when they were cutting on a nut and a 4 shot .410 shell if you missed.

We always put the last vegetables of the season and a half dozen squirrels in the pot for some good fall stew.

It’s what you did when you had three TV stations, a radio and a weekly paper.


16 posted on 08/24/2012 4:29:33 PM PDT by IamConservative (Well done is better than well said. - Ben Franklin)
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To: marktwain

I have the old model 24 22/20 ga that I had bored to 22 wmr. Regardless of what anyone says, you can shoot 22 mag or 22 long rifle from it just fine so long as you brush the chamber often.

I also have a 24v in 223 / 20 that has taken black bear, elk, deer, and Mountain goat, along with a scaddle of grouse and ptarmagan.


17 posted on 08/24/2012 4:43:35 PM PDT by Mormon Cricket
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To: ontap

I believe it would be.

It is kinda loud when I kill skitters.

with the west Nile virus, you cannot be too careful.


18 posted on 08/24/2012 5:26:04 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: umgud

do you think the extra 50 yards of a .22 wmr is worth the price of ammo?

not critical, just asking


19 posted on 08/24/2012 5:28:26 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: marktwain

A 2-shot gun doesn’t seem to fit the defense bill.

Better off with a 8-shot shotgun and a small pistol backup, both that can hold multiple rounds.


20 posted on 08/24/2012 5:32:14 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: hadaclueonce
do you think the extra 50 yards of a .22 wmr is worth the price of ammo?

Not just the extra yardage, but the nuch fkatter trajectory,

21 posted on 08/24/2012 5:46:23 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I don’t think it is intended as a defense gun. More of a walking around the woods gun.


22 posted on 08/24/2012 5:59:35 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Secret Agent Man
A 2-shot gun doesn’t seem to fit the defense bill.

It would not be my first choice, but for those 19 out of 20 cases where any gun works and sends them running, it fits the bill.

23 posted on 08/24/2012 6:43:11 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: yarddog

Ahh. Never had one of those.


24 posted on 08/24/2012 6:45:48 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

I’ve seen that gun—and a video demonstrating all it’s “charms

All I can say is WOW!!

However, in case you didn’t know, all of our ladies’ shooting events are handguns only, because we think handguns are the best for self defense, wherever you go...in the home, and when you are traveling.

I love shooting long guns, though, and have both a shotgun and a rifle.


25 posted on 08/25/2012 2:52:05 PM PDT by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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