Are you talking about sysadmins? Sysops, and systems programmers? The hairy backroom crowd?
HEY! I resemble that remark.
/johnny
Some of us still do it...
You know, smp/e, JES2, kicks...
I just wish the network dudes would stop plugging my full duplex, 1000 mps ethernet cable into half duplex ports...
;-)