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To: UCANSEE2; Dogbert41; jessduntno
If you're performing a raid that involves forcibly entering a property, you must be 100% sure that what you are looking for is inside and that no innocent people will be harmed in the process. Not 99.99999%, but 100%. It’s called investigation, surveillance and police work.

You’re putting innocent people’s lives in your hands because breaking into a home automatically invites deadly force. Countless people have been killed by such “mistakes” with no punishment for those involved. I worked in jobs where one mistake could have killed people. I made sure to check every single thing countless times before authorizing anything. If I made one such mistake, I would never work in the industry again and would be subject to criminal and civil charges. Cops and Judges should be held to an EVEN HIGHER standard.

If they do not find what is explicitly stated in the warrant, someone clearly did not do their job. All those involved in such “mistakes” should be fired and charged with the relevant crimes committed during the “mistake”- property crimes, burglary, murder, assault and/or animal cruelty.

Free nations cannot stand for such fishing expeditions, even for “super evil” things like drugs. The property owner is lucky these thugs didn’t “throw down” some evidence on her property and lock her up like often happens in the NYPD: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2095772/Cowboy-cop-Jason-Arbeeny-planted-crack-couples-car-seat-escapes-jail.html

Of course, the thugs never get jail time. Even after admitting to taking away freedom from innocent people like the piece of sh** cop in the article I posted. He should have been publically humiliated and executed as an example to all the corrupt cops.

60 posted on 09/04/2012 1:23:43 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga

“If you’re performing a raid that involves forcibly entering a property, you must be 100% sure that what you are looking for is inside and that no innocent people will be harmed in the process. Not 99.99999%, but 100%. It’s called investigation, surveillance and police work.”

No it isn’t, that there is called fantasy.


63 posted on 09/04/2012 1:27:54 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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To: varyouga; UCANSEE2; Dogbert41; jessduntno
If you're performing a raid that involves forcibly entering a property, you must be 100% sure that what you are looking for is inside and that no innocent people will be harmed in the process. Not 99.99999%, but 100%. It’s called investigation, surveillance and police work.

No, that's called being a pussy. We have the police (and SWAT teams) to break people's faces, period. Guilt and innocence are merely window dressing to the real issue: power. As government agents, thereby having all legitimate civil power, you are nothing! Know your place, peon!

You’re putting innocent people’s lives in your hands because breaking into a home automatically invites deadly force. Countless people have been killed by such “mistakes” with no punishment for those involved. I worked in jobs where one mistake could have killed people. I made sure to check every single thing countless times before authorizing anything. If I made one such mistake, I would never work in the industry again and would be subject to criminal and civil charges. Cops and Judges should be held to an EVEN HIGHER standard.

Bah! Irrelevant, you see the guilt or innocence of a mere resident/citizen is nothing because their life is nothing. You cling to that foolish belief that [human] life is sacred and not to be thrown away whimsically, it simply is not true: you are merely cattle to your federal masters. If they decide you should die, then who are you to oppose your masters? Indeed, the black-robed god-kings declare what is legal and illegal, so obviously nothing they do can be illegal -- this is the basic tenant of American jurisprudence: the Supreme Court is master over the Constitution [Supreme Law] just like the inferior courts are superior to the inferior law. How else could the judges bar firearms from states whose Constitutions say things like "No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense" yet compel people not even accused of any crime to appear in court?

If they do not find what is explicitly stated in the warrant, someone clearly did not do their job. All those involved in such “mistakes” should be fired and charged with the relevant crimes committed during the “mistake”- property crimes, burglary, murder, assault and/or animal cruelty.

Again you make incorrect assumptions, the laws are not to restrain the government, but to limit the citizenry. Therefore, to apply any law to the government is to disregard the true purpose of the law. You, as a mere citizen, are nothing more than cattle that believes itself to be a reasonable human being. If you were a human being, you would not be merely cattle but one of the ruling class... that you are not proves the lie of your claims of intelligence.

Free nations cannot stand for such fishing expeditions, even for “super evil” things like drugs. The property owner is lucky these thugs didn’t “throw down” some evidence on her property and lock her up like often happens in the NYPD [snip] Of course, the thugs never get jail time. Even after admitting to taking away freedom from innocent people like the piece of sh** cop in the article I posted. He should have been publically humiliated and executed as an example to all the corrupt cops.

That is your problem: believing that America is free. It is not, and never was. Do not believe your lying history books, or your lying elders, or your lying memories. FedGovia has always been at war with Citizenia.

WARNING: The preceding should have been read with heavy cynical sarcasm.

100 posted on 09/05/2012 10:54:01 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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