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10 things the “Average Joe” won’t know about Linux
Everyday Linux User ^ | 4 September 2012 | Gary Newell

Posted on 09/07/2012 3:44:45 AM PDT by ShadowAce

Introduction

Last night my son was trying to install something called Tekkit which has something to do with Minecraft.

I am not really savvy when it comes to Minecraft and I had no idea what Tekkit was. My son asked whether he could download and run the Tekkit Launcher and if so could I help him install it.

The first thing I noticed when visiting the site is that there is a download button on the right hand side for both a launcher and a server. What is lacking however is any real information about what Tekkit is, how to install it and how it works.

This got me thinking about the average computer user. How easy is it for someone to become familiar with Linux? Is there enough information to get started?

This article is therefore written for people that have heard the term Linux and wants to know a bit more but doesn’t know where to begin.

1. What is Linux?

Lots of people have chosen to make the move from Windows to Linux but how many other people have given up long before even understanding what Linux is.

You may have seen the term Linux used in the media or on television. You may also have seen Linux highlighted in big bold letters on the magazine shelves. What you may not know is what Linux is or you may have a skewed view believing it to be the plaything of geeks and nerds.

Reading Wikipedia may not help you. The first paragraph alone would be enough to make a lot of people’s brains explode.

Linux ( i/ˈlɪnəks/ LIN-əks[5][6] or /ˈlɪnʊks/ LIN-uuks)[7][8][9] is a Unix-like computer operating system assembled under the model of free and open source software development and distribution. The defining component of Linux is the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released 5 October 1991 by Linus Torvalds.[10][11]

I will therefore try and define Linux as simply as I can.

On your computer at the moment you will probably have the Windows operating system. There have been a number of versions of Windows over the years starting at version 1 and going all the way up to Windows 7 (with 8 on its way).

Windows as you may know is an operating system. What is means to you though is that using a series of menus, icons, windows and applications you can do things like browse the internet, watch videos, play games and create documents. Lurking within Windows is something called the Windows Kernel or the Windows NT Kernel. I dare you to search for the Windows NT Kernel on Wikipedia.

The architecture of Windows NT, a line of operating systems produced and sold by Microsoft, is a layered design that consists of two main components, user mode and kernel mode. It is a preemptive, reentrant operating system, which has been designed to work with uniprocessor and symmetrical multi processor (SMP)-based computers. To process input/output (I/O) requests, they use packet-driven I/O, which utilizes I/O request packets (IRPs) and asynchronous I/O. Starting with Windows 2000, Microsoft began making 64-bit versions of Windows available—before this, these operating systems only existed in 32-bit versions.

Without going to deeply into what the Kernel is it is basically the engine for your operating system. From the Windows NT Kernel multiple versions of Windows are formed including the home, professional, ultimate editions. All of these are different versions of the same operating system running off the same Kernel.

There is a common misconception that Linux is an operating system. Linux is the engine that spawns a whole host of different operating systems known as distributions.

2. What is a distribution (distro)?

When browsing the computing magazine section at your local news agent or supermarket you may have seen the Linux magazines. On the front of the magazines there are often free disks attached to the front.

In big bold writing on the front of the magazine it will say “Ubuntu 12.04 reviewed” or “What’s new in Linux Mint 13?”.

Linux Format magazine is currently giving away 2 disks with 15 distributions on it. People new to the Linux world may not have a clue what a distribution even is.

The distribution is the actual operating system. So you could look at it like this. There are various Windows distributions including Windows Home Starter, Windows Home Premium, Windows Professional and Windows Server. Each distribution of Windows has a different target audience.

Linux is the same. There are multiple distributions each aimed at a different target audience. The difference between Linux and Windows is that there are hundreds if not thousands of choices of Linux distributions.

The other big difference between Windows and Linux is that the majority of Linux distributions are free.

3. How do I know which distribution is right for me?

There is no easy answer to know which Linux distribution is right for you. It basically comes down to personal preference.

The best way to find out is to dive right in and try a few of them out. The great thing is that a lot of distributions provide live CDs which makes it possible to insert the CD into you CD drive and restart your computer and it will boot straight into the Linux distribution. You do not have to worry about messing up your Windows installation. Simply try out all the functions the Live CD has to offer and if you like it you can then install it. If you don’t like it take the CD out and restart your PC and boot back into Windows.

Now blindly downloading distributions is a bit of a scattergun approach to finding out whether Linux is right for you. If you are completely new to Linux then you probably would not want to face the daunting task of installing Slackware.

Fortunately help is at hand. Visit www.distrowatch.org. This site is an invaluable resource.

First of all there is a list down the right hand side showing the top 100 distributions. There is also a fantastic search facility. You can use the search tool to search on the distribution type. For example if you are new to Linux you might want your first foray into the world of Linux to be with the easier to use distributions. The plus side of these distributions is that most things work straight away and the menus are easy to navigate.

If you have an older computer then it makes sense to run a distribution that is kind to resources. In this instance searching on “older computers” provides a list of distributions that run well on older computers.

If you are heavily into gaming there are distributions for gamers. If you want a distribution for educating your children you can search on education.

Even after running a search you may still find that there is a list of about 20 distributions to choose from so how do you then know which one to try first. Each distribution listing on distrowatch has a description which states the major goals of the projects. You can also see screenshots and read reviews.

Each Linux distribution will come with different desktop environments and choice of installed software. Ultimately as you become more accustomed to using Linux you will know which desktop environment suits you best and which applications you prefer to use.

For people wishing to use Linux for the first time I personally would recommend Ubuntu, Linux Mint or Zorin OS.

4. What is a desktop environment?

In graphical computing, a desktop environment (DE) commonly refers to a particular implementation of graphical user interface (GUI) derived from the desktop metaphor that is seen on most modern personal computers.[1] These GUIs help the user in easily accessing, configuring, and modifying many important and frequently accessed specific operating system (OS) features. The GUI usually does not afford access to all the many features found in an OS. Instead, the traditional command-line interface (CLI) is still used when full control over the OS is required in such cases.

Wow! That paragraph was taken straight from Wikipedia.

Think of the desktop environment as the series of menus, taskbars, windows and keyboard shortcuts that you use to start and run applications.

If you look at Windows 7 the desktop environment consists of a taskbar at the bottom. The taskbar is split between the Start icon, quick launch icons, opens applications (tasks) and the system tray which includes the clock. When you click the start button a menu appears and you can search for programs or you can use the menus to navigate for the programs you wish to run.

In addition to the menus and taskbars there is the desktop itself which has icons, a background, context menus that can be pulled up by pressing the right mouse button and of course you can add widgets to display things like the weather.

The one thing you will quickly learn about Linux is that there are lots of choices for everything and there is an abundant choice of desktop environments. The main desktop environments in use are Unity, Cinnamon, Mate, Gnome, KDE, XFCE and LXDE. If I started a debate as to which is the best one then I would have pages upon pages of comments declaring allegiances to one or another. At the end of the day it is down to choice. Really the only way to decide is to try a few out and best way to try a few out is to try different distributions that implement different desktop environments.

5. Where can I get Linux distributions?

First of all you can get most distributions for free. Visit distrowatch.org and search for the distribution you are interested in and click the download link.

Some distributions make it more complicated than others when choosing what to download. For example visiting the Linux Mint site you will see a table showing all the possible downloads and what they consist of. This is fairly simple. Ubuntu is even easier because there is only one desktop choice (Unity) and so you simply get the choice to download a 32 bit version or a 64 bit version.

Other distributions make it a little bit more complicated. PCLinuxOS for instance has a load of text with some small links at the bottom of the page. They should put the links at the top and the text underneath. They are not the worst though. For some distributions you will get to a folder with 20 or 30 links showing different versions some with source code, some with documentation and it will say x86, x64, i386 etc and it just isn’t clear which version it is you should download.

Of course if you have read this entire article thus far you will also realise that you can buy Linux magazines which often have a variety of different distributions on the cover disk to the magazine. Along with the cover disk there will be a review of the distribution in the magazine so you can make an informed decision as to which one is best for you.

Now whilst Linux is free you might not want the hassle of downloading the ISO image to burn to CD/DVD and you might not want to spend £5.99 on a magazine just for one disk that you may or may not like.

In this instance you can visit a site like http://buylinuxcds.co.uk where you can choose the version of Linux you would like to try and it will be sent to you on a CD or DVD for just a small fee.

6. How do I install Linux but keep Windows?

Most people when they first look at using Linux aren’t ready to give up Windows.

Firstly I would recommend trying out the live CD first.

Some Linux distributions can run from inside Windows or as well as Windows without affecting the Windows install at all.

Ubuntu has the Wubi installer which runs Ubuntu from inside Windows. Now you can try all the features of Ubuntu and use it in its entirety without worrying about losing your Windows data.

Puppy Linux on the other hand runs from a CD or USB drive and the save file is stored as a file on your Windows drive. It is basically a file like any other file and so again does not affect your Windows operating system.

Other distributions whilst not running from within Windows enable you to install the Linux distribution alongside Windows so that when you boot your PC you can choose whether to use Windows or whether to use the Linux distribution. All the major Linux distributions make this part of the installation process. It really is a case of checking boxes.

If you have ever installed Windows by yourself then in the majority of cases you will be able to install Linux. Most distributions have a graphical installer which provide a series of questions to answer such as where you are located, which users you want to create and which applications to install.

7. Can I still run my Windows applications?

There are two answers to this question. The simple answer is yes you can. The real answer though asks another question why?

If you want to run Windows software there are multiple ways to do it. One way is to install a program called WINE. This software enables you to install Windows applications within the Linux operating system and run them straight from within Linux. Now this software is very good and works incredibly well but there are some Windows programs that just won’t run properly using WINE. The other option is to install VirtualBox. This enables you to install a copy of Windows within a virtual machine whereby you can install the Windows applications you wish to use.

As mentioned previously Linux gives you choice and an incredible amount of it. To this end there are thousands upon thousands of applications that can be installed and in the majority of cases you will find an application that does exactly the same as the Windows application you currently use.

As an example of this if you want to read your emails in an Outlook style application there is an email client called Thunderbird. (http://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/thunderbird/). If you are not sure it meets your needs then there is a Windows version that you can try first.

For office tasks such as word processing, spreadsheets and presentations there is LibreOffice. Again you can download a Windows version of this software from www.libreoffice.org/download

For watching videos there is VLC player (again there is a Windows version). For music Rhythmbox or Banshee can be used. They are both similar to Windows Media Player.

8. Is my hardware supported by Linux?

Yet another common misconception in Windows land and by the media is that Linux doesn’t support hardware very well.

Whilst this used to be true support for hardware has come on leaps and bounds over the past 5 years and I haven’t got one device that doesn’t work fully under Linux.

For instance I have a Sony Walkman and Rhythmbox and Banshee both pick up the Walkman as a device and make it easy to synchronise my laptop with the Walkman.

My printer and scanner both work very well and I have a blaze ultimate portable game console which I can connect with Linux to copy games to and from the device. You can even use an XBOX controller as a joypad for playing games.

The best thing to do is to try the live version of a distribution out first and test all your hardware.

9. How do I get support for Linux?

This is a very important topic. Everyone knows a guy that can help them when their Windows goes wrong. Not many people would know a Linux guy that can help if Linux doesn’t work.

Again there are two main points to make here. When Windows goes wrong it usually goes spectacularly wrong.

The most common reasons for Windows to go wrong are:

Yes I get asked questions about other things that happen on Windows but 99% of the people that ask me for help are for these four things.

Linux nearly never goes wrong for me. Most of the time I need Linux support for things that I want to try out but just don’t know how to.

Help is not far away. The major distributions have forums that you can go to for help. Most of the people are friendly and will do their utmost to help. If the forums don’t work then there are the ICQ chat rooms. Now the Ubuntu guys bend over backwards to help people. I sat with a window open to the ICQ chat room and watched as a Ubuntu expert dedicated 3 hours of his life sorting out a troublesome router problem for a new user.

If you cannot get help in the forums then there is of course Google. My view of Google is that if you cannot find the answer to a problem then you probably just haven’t used the right search term yet.

The best site for help however has to be Youtube. Often seen as a place for watching jackass type videos or kids playing pranks this is the one platform that has helped me the most in the past few years. People dedicate a large amount of time recording video tutorials showing you how to achieve what it is you want to achieve. It was Youtube that helped me solve my son’s Tekkit problem. Currently Youtube is the most educational tool on the internet.

10. Why would I want to use Linux instead of Windows?

You know the answer to this question might be that you wouldn’t You might be perfectly happy working away in Windows land and if that is how you choose to use your computer then that is fine.

You might consider leaving Windows for the following reasons however:

It may be that when you buy your next PC it comes with Windows 8. (This will depend upon when you read this article, at the moment it hasn’t been released). You might not like Windows 8 at all. If you have an XBOX or a Windows phone then the interface will probably be familiar to you but it is a personal preference as to whether you like it or not. You might consider at this point trying Linux to see if it works better for you.

If you keep getting viruses then I would consider a number of things. Firstly update your anti-virus software and firewall. Secondly be more cautious when downloading files from the internet and also be careful about which websites you visit. Moving to Linux will give you a level of protection against getting viruses and you will feel more secure. However, of course this does not mean you should throw caution to the wind. There has been the odd isolated incident within Linux regarding viruses.

If your machine is running slowly or it is getting older then you might not be able to upgrade to a later version of Windows. Staying on the current version of Windows is an option but support will be faded out and there is every chance that security holes will be found and not plugged. Moving to a version of Linux that is designed for older computers will give you peace of mind that you are running on an operating system designed for you. It will be actively supported by the developers. You will not be considered a second class citizen running on an old version of an operating system but as a key user for a currently supported and developed operating system.

Finally you might move to Linux because you gave it a go and because like many before realised that Linux is brilliant and not just for geeks after all.



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1 posted on 09/07/2012 3:44:52 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Salo; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; amigatec; stylin_geek; ...

2 posted on 09/07/2012 3:45:41 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

ping


4 posted on 09/07/2012 3:58:44 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: ShadowAce

Good article.


5 posted on 09/07/2012 4:04:22 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: AFreeBird

I thought so as well. It answers several questions I’ve seen here on FR.


6 posted on 09/07/2012 4:15:09 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Tekkit is a highly advanced mod compilation that gathers dozens of other mods and gets them to all work in tandem. It allows you to basically construct advanced machinery at a basic level. Could spend a week building a machine that automatically mines, sorts, processes, refines, and constructs at each basic level to a finished product.

For example, I spent a couple weeks building a machine that did just that and the end result was advanced solar panels. The added fun was in refining the machine to fewer steps and more streamlining. Eventually I even built a warehouse to cover it and installed industrial lighting, taking care to wire it up.


7 posted on 09/07/2012 4:27:45 AM PDT by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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To: ShadowAce

Last week my Linux box crashed and wont boot into Gnome.

Not a huge deal is I didn’t deiced to use it for emergency photo storage to free up space on a memory card!

The hardware is still ok, I just thing the installation is now....gimped(shameless pun).

So if any Linux guys have a suggestion for this average Joe on how I may retrieve the goods from this machine before having to nuke the whole thing, I will be forever grateful!


8 posted on 09/07/2012 4:35:24 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: ShadowAce

Another thing of note, with Tekkit I saw a video of someone who built a literal piece by piece computer at the most basic level. Laying each transistor. It had something like 200 bits of memory, I think an 8 bit input register, and supported a display that was also constructed piece by piece at the transistor level. Of course it took forever for it to actually make a simple calculation, but it was a genuine simulated computer inside a computer. (How meta!) =]

I sure as hell ain’t that smart.


9 posted on 09/07/2012 4:36:08 AM PDT by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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To: ShadowAce
Here's the biggest issue with Linux: hardware support is nowhere as comprehensive as in Windows. You know most modern computer hardware out there have driver code that works directly with Windows 7.

By the way, the security issue has been resolved with Microsoft's own free-to-download Security Essentials software, so if you're running Windows 7, you don't need to buy a third-party Internet security suite (along with the steep yearly subscription cost!) for safety online. And Windows 8 will include the full Security Essentials functionality as part of the Windows Defender section of the operating system.

10 posted on 09/07/2012 4:54:02 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: VanDeKoik
If it gets past grub, here's what to do:
  1. Boot up. At the grub screen, hit escape
  2. Aftger hitting escape, you will be taken to a menu. Typically, the entry highlighted will be the default boot kernel. Hit "e" to edit the entry.
  3. Using the arrow keys, go to the line that begins with "kernel" or "linux". Hit "e" again to edit it.
  4. Hit the "end" key to go to the end of the line. Add a "3" to teh end of the line, and hit enter.
  5. Hit "b" to boot that kernel with the edits
  6. This should now place you in a console-only environment without a GUI. Login.
  7. You now have several options.
    • Try to re-install Gnome
    • Install another Desktop (KDE, XFCE, etc)
    • Since I do not know what your distro is, I cannot help with specific commands since Ubuntu and Fedora use pretty different systems
  8. Once new desktop is repaired/installed, reboot (easiest), or just type in "init 5" to get into new GUI.

11 posted on 09/07/2012 4:54:02 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: RayChuang88
Here's the biggest issue with Linux: hardware support is nowhere as comprehensive as in Windows.

Incorrect. Linux actually supports more hardware than Windows does.

By the way, the security issue has been resolved...

Security is never "resolved." Security essentials may help, but it does not cure.

12 posted on 09/07/2012 4:56:59 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: VanDeKoik
If you got a live CD, you can boot that and use it to see what is on your hard drive.

A live CD creates a fake hard drive in the memory and starts from that, which is why it doesn't need to molest the hard disk unless you want it to. In this case, you want to "mount" (make accessible) the hard drive and read off the stored data. You can copy it out to a USB drive or ftp it to another system.

You didn't say what distro you have, btw, and the expression "boot into Gnome" doesn't actually make sense. By the time Gnome should be coming up, the boot process is well over and the kernel is fully operational — at that point, it's starting up applications.

Last week, my main Linux box wouldn't start KDE, but that turned out to be because the manufacturer of my video card discontinued hardware support for its whole series. I updated my Linux installation, and wups, suddenly no X Window system, which means no desktop. Linux was alive and well, but only usable from the command line.

I got a newer video card, plopped it into the box, and lo, everything came back up with no other changes. But that had nothing to do with Linux itself.

13 posted on 09/07/2012 5:03:30 AM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: ShadowAce
6. How do I install Linux but keep Windows?

Actually for this point I would suggest Oracle VirtualBox - it's drop-dead easy to use and they are still actually "in Windows" the whole time.
14 posted on 09/07/2012 5:06:04 AM PDT by GunningForTheBuddha (DC is like a car full of clowns off their meds.)
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To: GunningForTheBuddha
VirtualBox is an excellent product, and the one I use.

But there are several virtual machines out there that would work as well.

15 posted on 09/07/2012 5:11:56 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
I've played with Security Essentials Version 4.0 and it's actually an excellent piece of security software. It's very comprehensive in watching for virus and other malware attacks.
16 posted on 09/07/2012 5:13:13 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: ShadowAce

That is a pretty broad statement considering Linux comes in so many flavors. If it were true, why are Ubuntu users endlessly searching for drivers? I think it really depends on what you are using Linux for and the distro you choose.

I will care more about Linux the moment more games become available on it. While it supports Steam, not many games are available and not near the number on Windows OS. I’m waiting for the day all games are Linux compatible and I can ditch the bloated Windows OS on my gaming rig. I would gladly kiss Windows goodbye and never look back.

I keep hearing rumors that Steam is making a gaming console that is essentially a small PC with a Linux OS that uses Steam as its front end.


17 posted on 09/07/2012 5:17:49 AM PDT by drunknsage
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To: thulldud

“You didn’t say what distro you have, btw, and the expression “boot into Gnome” doesn’t actually make sense. By the time Gnome should be coming up, the boot process is well over and the kernel is fully operational — at that point, it’s starting up applications. “

It’s Ubuntu. It goes through some sort of startup process but when the desktop usually appears, I get just a blank screen.


18 posted on 09/07/2012 5:23:21 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: ShadowAce

bump for later.


19 posted on 09/07/2012 5:23:33 AM PDT by Kakaze (I want The Republic back !)
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To: drunknsage
That is a pretty broad statement considering Linux comes in so many flavors.

Linux comes in one flavor. The distros are customizations of the one OS. Much like the different versions of Windows.

I base that statement not only on personal experience (ever install Windows on mid-tier hardware like an AS/400 or on a Tivo?) but on numerous reports around the web (see here for an example). Windows basically runs on x86 hardware with some on specialty phones. Linux runs easily on everything from phones to supercomputers, ATMs, military drones and battleships to car computers.

20 posted on 09/07/2012 5:34:12 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
" Incorrect. Linux actually supports more hardware than Windows does."

Actually ?
People would be surprised at how many things, or should I say electronic devices with a version of Linux of some short in it.
For example ? Android phones and tablets ? they run off of Linux.
PlayStation 3 fat version ? it had a Linux operating system in it until the Slim PlayStation came out.

Another good thing about Linux is that if you have a old PC a few years old and Microsoft has left you out in the cold, you can put Linux on it and the operating system will be up to date.

Best part about Linux ? it's FREE.
21 posted on 09/07/2012 5:50:58 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: drunknsage
Ouya : is a up and coming gaming system and console that is trying to get to market.
The price of the console is around $100 and it's open source.
I see a few windows based games or PC based games like Grand Theft Auto, Syphon Filter, Max Payne, MADDEN NFL 12 is on the Android now via Google Play.
22 posted on 09/07/2012 6:01:52 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: drunknsage

http://www.ouya.tv/


23 posted on 09/07/2012 6:03:00 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: American Constitutionalist

He meant what PC add-on hardware was supported. Finding viable drivers is a PITA.

I’ve put Linux on older machines. Great, now I’ve got an old computer running ... what? not the software I need to run.

Linux ain’t free. What you save in dollars you pay in time.

Every time I get the Linux spirit, I eagerly install it on something, and soon find myself spending far more time trying to make it work and getting pretty much nowhere. At least for ~$300 I’d get a new computer with an installed working OS that runs pretty much anything most people would want; I’m holding out for the $2000 box that “just works” with an OS which IS UNIX (not a hobbyist’s knock-off).

Seriously, the problem with Linux has always been, no matter how polished the delivery, is that darn near ANYTHING requires “oh, right, you just have to ...” and spend the next 3 hours fiddling with obscurities. Sure, you can get good enough that it all looks simple, but it’s still endless fiddling. Most of us don’t have time to fiddle with making the OS work, we want to get something else done. It’s written by geeks for geeks. No, really, it is. And it shows.


24 posted on 09/07/2012 6:14:29 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: ShadowAce

Thanks. I hope Linux matures further, but as yet i do not see Linux as ready to replace Windows for the typical user except for basic use. Of course, as i guess i am what is called a a Windows “power user” and want to do more things than most, and i can be critical (but appreciative) of Windows also.

And having tried every major Linux distro i have to say that that rather than “Linux nearly never goes wrong for me,” i have often found things that did not work as they were supposed to, while they have always failed to do things i take for granted in Windows, esp with XP.

A few of my suggestions are here: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=99416&p=566074#p565693

A major reason many give for switching to Linux is security, yet in over 10 years of extensive Internet use i have only had 2 viruses (one under W/98se), both soon detected.

However, in the interest of security, trying to trying to get full R/W permissions for my own files under Linux distros required learning what scripts to run, which can vary btwn distros. Puppy is an exception.

And getting old hardware to work can also require even more of a learning curve.

Of course, if hardware manufacturers would provide more for Linux that would help.

Then there is the problem of needing to purchase legal multimedia codecs needed for certain common formats (if you want to be legal, which we should).

And while help can be found in forums, i think potential users should give read some of them to see the problems people have, and what can be required to fix them. And part of the problem is that there are so many flavors of Linux that each one can have different ways of doing things.

However, these criticisms are not meant to denigrate Linux, as in fact i see much potential with it, and hope to see migration and adaptation from Windows made easier.


25 posted on 09/07/2012 6:24:03 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute actual sinner, + trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: RayChuang88
By the way, the security issue has been resolved with Microsoft's own free-to-download Security Essentials software, so if you're running Windows 7, you don't need to buy a third-party Internet security suite (along with the steep yearly subscription cost!) for safety online. And Windows 8 will include the full Security Essentials functionality as part of the Windows Defender section of the operating system.

I have been VERY disappointed by the Security Essentials anti-malware protections in Windows 7. I had recommended and installed it on several PCs, only to have some of them get quickly compromised by malware that AVG, Avast or Trend Micro would have caught.
26 posted on 09/07/2012 6:42:22 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I have a new zest for life!"--Cal from Las Vegas)
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To: ShadowAce

11 - grep is an acronym! Anyone know the full name? ;-P

I’ll reveal it once someone guesses it, or if several guess wrong! Consider it a Friday treasure hunt!


27 posted on 09/07/2012 6:44:54 AM PDT by MortMan (Laughter is the best medicine, especially when ridiculing your enemies.)
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To: ShadowAce
Incorrect. Linux actually supports more hardware than Windows does.

Maybe if you include a bunch of high end firewalls and specialty switches, but no so much for prosumer and SOHO peripherals.

My Fujitsu Scan Snap, Visioneer Paperport Strobe and Canon Faxphone (for starters) don't work with Linux.

Video drivers and drivers for popular laser printers (HP) exist, but are often buggy and/or don't employ all accelaration or available features.

I want to like Linux, but it is not a great general purpose desktop/workstation for people like me.
28 posted on 09/07/2012 6:48:13 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I have a new zest for life!"--Cal from Las Vegas)
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To: MortMan
I’ll reveal it once someone guesses it...

If someone guesses it, wouldn't they be the one revealing it? :)

btw--I know it, but won't reveal it this soon....

29 posted on 09/07/2012 6:55:25 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

I should know better than to write colloquially on a geek thread! LOL

FreepMail me your answer - it’ll give me a chance to check that we agree!


30 posted on 09/07/2012 7:01:04 AM PDT by MortMan (Laughter is the best medicine, especially when ridiculing your enemies.)
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To: ShadowAce

One thing that always bothers me - the idea that you can pop a LiveCD into your CD tray and see if you “like” linux or “like” a particular distro. To me that’s a bit like saying “go slap some paint on a wall” to see if you would “like” painting houses for a living.

Yet you see this repeated over and over and over by even quite knowledgeable people.

Until you’ve lived with an OS on a daily basis for weeks/months/years you really don’t know if you “like” it or not. IMHO.


31 posted on 09/07/2012 7:15:01 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
To me that’s a bit like saying “go slap some paint on a wall” to see if you would “like” painting houses for a living.

Understand, but most people see it as driving a car. Take it for a test drive to see if you like it.

32 posted on 09/07/2012 7:16:35 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: MortMan

Well, the answer you sent agrees with Wikipedia, but I still like my answer better! (It makes more sense to me).

I’ll give credit for both!


33 posted on 09/07/2012 7:16:59 AM PDT by MortMan (Laughter is the best medicine, especially when ridiculing your enemies.)
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To: ShadowAce

Sure - that’s the competing analogy but I’m just saying that I don’t think it really applies in this case. Again, IMHO.


34 posted on 09/07/2012 7:18:07 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: VanDeKoik
will it boot off of a 'live' cd/dvd? If so, you can recover your pictures and stuff pretty easily. If it is actually just gnome that is broke and not something more fundamental, you can likely fix it with one command (though you'll lose any desktop customizations you might have made).

Boot it up on a live disk (or if you know how to, boot into single-user mode), mount the disk that contains your home directory. Rename the .gnome2 directory in your home directory.

mv .gnome2 .gnome2.bad

Restart your computer and see if gnome works. If not, boot up the live CD/DVD again, mount your home directory, and rename .gnome2_private.

mv .gnome2_private .gnome2_private.bad

I always advise people to keep a spare login that has sudo access available on your linux box, especially if you run one of the bleeding edge distros, because it is possible to hose the configuration of your window manager (i.e., gnome, kde, etc.) yet not have anything actually wrong with the box other than a borked configuration of your personal desktop. If you have KDE installed, you might try logging in with KDE rather than booting off a live disk, and do the same rename mentioned above to fix gnome. The really cool thing about doing it that way, is if that doesn't fix things, and you want to put it back, you just rename the directory back to what it was, and you're good to go.

35 posted on 09/07/2012 7:29:21 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: zeugma

And remember ... when booting off the liveCD the harddisk tree is no longer at root but is found on /mnt/sysimage (at least that is the case with Fedora).


36 posted on 09/07/2012 7:40:42 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: ShadowAce

bookmark


37 posted on 09/07/2012 7:41:09 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: MortMan
Global Regular Express Processor

Bonus question: what does 'awk' stand for?

38 posted on 09/07/2012 7:48:25 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: zeugma

s/Express/Expression/


39 posted on 09/07/2012 7:52:05 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: zeugma

That’s one of the alternate ones I found - but not one of the two I’ll give credit for.

I’m looking up the acronym meaning for awk, so I won’t post it. Let’s see if someone knows it without having to search!


40 posted on 09/07/2012 8:20:47 AM PDT by MortMan (Laughter is the best medicine, especially when ridiculing your enemies.)
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To: zeugma

awk is a good one. Not sure if I can beat that for obscurity. :)


41 posted on 09/07/2012 8:26:45 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

What do you mean?

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bookmark

42 posted on 09/07/2012 8:26:47 AM PDT by ThomasThomas
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To: MortMan

HINT: awk isn’t really an acronym. It is initials.


43 posted on 09/07/2012 10:48:41 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: ShadowAce

bflr


44 posted on 09/07/2012 11:34:09 AM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: zeugma

Yep. One of the gents is best known for writing about C/C++!


45 posted on 09/07/2012 12:46:54 PM PDT by MortMan (Laughter is the best medicine, especially when ridiculing your enemies.)
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To: MortMan
get regular expression - print

Mel

46 posted on 09/07/2012 1:21:56 PM PDT by grwcfl537 (Sed libera nos a malo.)
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To: MortMan
aho weinberg kernighan

Mel

47 posted on 09/07/2012 1:24:02 PM PDT by grwcfl537 (Sed libera nos a malo.)
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To: grwcfl537

Also an alternate, but not the main one reported (nor the alternate I learned eons ago).


48 posted on 09/07/2012 1:26:34 PM PDT by MortMan (Laughter is the best medicine, especially when ridiculing your enemies.)
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To: MortMan

The one I find at the top of most lists of meanings for grep is “global regular expression print”.

The one I learned many moons ago is “general regular expression parser”.


49 posted on 09/07/2012 1:28:04 PM PDT by MortMan (Laughter is the best medicine, especially when ridiculing your enemies.)
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To: MortMan
You might appreciate this...

sed 's/#/ /g' $FILE | awk '{print $11}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr > $FILE.client
This is the heart of a script that would process raw BIND logs, and output a list of clients to a DNS server in order from highest to lowest hitters. Among other things, it allowed me to identify misconfigured servers. On several occasions, I identified Unix servers that had lost their mind, and were querying for their own names 30+ times per second. The same thing, searching for $7 would tell me how many times a given host was looked up.
50 posted on 09/07/2012 2:03:17 PM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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