My friend who is an retired cop was making the point that had he been in the theatre with his .45 and had gotten a shot off on the Aurora shooter, that would have knocked him off his game so he may have been stopped. A 9mm would not have been effective against the body armor. Made enough since to me that I've decided to trade a couple 9's for the new Springfield XDS .45..To each is own
Newtonian physics isn't hard. Even for cooks.
Getting smacked with a baseball bat in the chest would have been effective against body armor. You can't shoot when you are tango uniform, gasping for breath.
/johnny
Lots of cops are full of BS. A 45 ACP would not be effective against body armor. Nor would a 9mm.
You might want to research ballistics before trading your 9mm for a 45 ACP. FWIW, I prefer revolvers & a 357...but I’m not imagining that a 357 would stop body armor or be all that much more effective than a 9mm.
I suppose 'since' is supposed to be sense, and your 'buddy' talking you into trading out your 9mm pistolas is going to benefit how? Is he buying them?
/johnny
retired cops say a lot of things....
The guy GAVE UP because he was AFRAID of being shot. So just shooting at him would have knocked him off his game.
If you want to consider against body armor, it’s NOT good enough just to go .45 You have to get a teflon coated steel jacketed bullet. And even then it’2 50 / 50 because a /.45 does not have enough FPS.....Keep in mind body armor was designed to stop RIFLE bullets at standard calibers as well.
Enjoy your .45
I went to a gun range with a guy who had been talking up his stuff. He couldn’t put 5 inside the target (1.5 foot diameter) at 20 yards offhand!
Yet he had a 1500$ pistol.....Clearly the guy needs a professsional to fit him, glasses, or nrrve pills. My point is, accuracy is king.
There ARE small .45’s for concealed carry (I conceal here in Texas am required to).... Have you seen the Kahr .45?
Kahr PM45 .45 ACP
Frame: Polymer
Operation: DAO; Slide Catch
Capacity: 5 +1
Barrel/Overall Length: 3.14/5.97”
Height: 4.93”
Width: 1.12”
Weight Empty: 17.3 oz
Weight Fully Loaded: 22 oz.
If you are shooting a springfield (I have the 9m) it’s a nice high capacity, but its’ not a daily carry, unless you have a holster.
As far as how the Kahr shoots (I have a lot of time on Kahrs, springfields, glocks, taurus) I would say the Kahr shoots more accurately than any other. (It’s CNC machined, tolerences are very low) - don’t buy the newer cheaper Kahrs though, as they might be as good (they are not 100% machined), and I don’t know about them.
Google pocket auto comparison - there is a good summary of guns available.