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To: Lorianne
It may well collapse no matter who wins

Honestly, I see almost no way around it.

Perhaps the more important question is, whom can we elect who can (or even wants) to rebuild the wreckage - and will the American people have the fortitude to gut out the sacrifices required or will they fall for a tyrant who makes more promises? It will take many years and most politicians aren't in anything for the long haul. That's why we are in this nasty situation in the first place.

14 posted on 09/10/2012 2:21:18 PM PDT by Gritty (Obama offers a government-planned life, a country where everything is free but us - Paul Ryan)
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To: Gritty
Perhaps the more important question is, whom can we elect who can (or even wants) to rebuild the wreckage

It may just fall to Messrs. Smith and Wesson to right this foundering ship of state.

18 posted on 09/10/2012 2:26:02 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Gritty

“Perhaps the more important question is, whom can we elect who can (or even wants) to rebuild the wreckage - and will the American people have the fortitude to gut out the sacrifices required or will they fall for a tyrant who makes more promises?”

This is where I am expending my energies at the moment,trying to figure out how to best equip our successors who must rebuild after the mess our and the preceding generations inflicted on the USA.

Honestly,the problem is mathematical. The gangrene of compounding debt cannot be resolved. Period. I do not want the nation to be finished,but it is whether I want it to be or not. In my judgement and observation, the tipping point is long since passed. The only question is the pace of the future. Either way the election turns out — even if the GOP increases their share of the House and gains the Senate — I can easily envision the collapse occurring before the 2014 congressional elections.

Read Matt Bracken’s newest piece on the collapse. It makes sense to me.


34 posted on 09/10/2012 4:55:42 PM PDT by crusher (Political Correctness: Stalinism Without the Charm)
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