Posted on 09/11/2012 8:26:06 AM PDT by Ben Barrack
Oh, did I mention Judicial Watch?
http://www.911myths.com/images/1/1f/DanMarcus_Box6_Saudis_Post9-11SaudiFlights.pdf
And unless you can read Arabic, you’re not qualified to talk about the Saudi news reports about this prince’s death (as well as two others all within the same week).
May I suggest you read more and type less.
Telling the Saudis to hold the al-Qaeda financiers accountable would be like telling the Japanese Emperor to do the same with the fighter pilots that hit us in Pearl Harbor.
Insane strategy.
Firstly sorry for the the double posting.
Yes you did quote the report, but in the original blog there are conclusory statements far closer to those of Posner, that you admonished me to read the blog, the obvious inference is that you were defending it not the rather dry statement of the official report.
The quote from the report made no such claim of culpability by any of the people the blog mentions.
I am not "anti-big oil," but I gotta tell you that "Big Oil" Accountants, aided and abetted by an arcane and zany set of govregs, could easily make one belief that they are losing money at a $1000/bbl. The next President should also promise to shoot an environmentalist every 10 days on the WH lawn. And a movie star environmentalist every 5 days. Especially one that lives in Beverly Hills, an active production zone paying handsome royalties to these silly bozos.
"Drilling Dry Holes," "The Cost of Exploration," Yadda yadda, pass the damn tissues. Largely Boolshiite. They could make money at $20/bbl, especially if we had leadership that could recognize the inanity of "boutique fuels" customized for every urban area, low-sulfur diesel, ethanol additives, etc. ad naus. (For the next twenty-five years, it's my belief that Diesel is the way to go. It's easier to refine and modern diesels run clean enough for any man.)
The world is awash in crude oil. Its commodity price is very largely a market construct. Supply of finished petroleum products is kept in check by much lower than "natural" refining capacity. The CHICOM know this and are attempting to develop crude supplies that will give them cheap energy even after they ship it 12,000 miles from Venezuela, Cuba, and the Sudan to China. When they start getting it from the South China Sea, we'll really see what cheap energy does for an economy, just as it did and should do for ours!
Energy ... especially good old-fashioned crude awl, is a racket. If I were in on it, I wouldn't want to change it either!
may I suggest you read the Report instead of the blog.
http://www.shoebat.com/2012/09/11/911-bombshell-report-3000-americans-for-three-saudi-princes/
Part of what’s at issue includes a 28-page section of Congress Join Inquiry report that continues to remain classified. 9/11 families want it and get get it. 9/11 families also attempted to hold the Saudi Royal family accountable in court and then Solicitor General Kagan petitioned the Supreme court to side with the Saudis.
Vanity Fair story in 2011 interviewed a CIA operative that confirms the Zubaydah angle.
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2011/08/9-11-2011-201108
I’m not a truther but also not willing to give Bush a pass. After 9/11, he had 90% approval and could have used that political capital to strive for energy independence while holding the Saudis to account.
Instead, he seems to have chosen the path of least resistance.
cute
Interesting language, now for some facts.
How do you spell Gog? I spell it GeOrGe.
Gog facts:
Here's a few other facts you may not be aware of.
Gog's weapons are already on Israeli soil. (Ezekiel 39:9) and Oplan 4305. Note plan 5 from 43.
Oplan 4305: Contingency plan for the defense of Israel. Arkin also says the U.S. has quietly pre-positioned munitions and equipment on Israeli soil.
No kidding take a look at this...
Unusually Large U.S. Weapons Shipment to Israel: Are the US and Israel Planning a Broader Middle East War?
by Michel Chossudovsky
Clip:
Escalation Scenario
The shipment ordered on December 31 is of the order of 3000 tons, an unusually large and heavy cargo of "ammunition" pointing to the transfer of heavy weaponry to Israel.
According to US military statements, the ordinance is for stockpiling, to be used "at short notice" in the eventuality of a conflict:
"This previously scheduled shipment is routine and not in support of the current situation in Gaza. ...The U.S. military pre-positions stockpiles in some countries in case it needs supplies at short notice." (Reuters, 10 Jan 2009, emphasis added)
Whatever the nature of these large weapons shipments, they are intended for use in a future military operation in the Middle East.
Since the launching of the Theater Iran Near Term Operation Operation (TIRANNT) in May 2003, an escalation scenario involving military action directed against Iran and Syria has been envisaged. TIRANNT was followed by a series of military plans pertaining to Iran. Numerous official statements and US military documents have pointed to an expanded Middle East war...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11743
You don't say...
Notice the language in Ezekiel regarding Gog and the land, nowhere does it say Gog attacks Israel, it says "Gog shall come against the land of Israel" (38:18).
Which means Palestinian State! At the same time, The Madrid Conference (land for peace) and The Perfect Storm October 30 - November 1, 1991
Ezekiel 38
18 “And it will come to pass at the same time, when Gog comes against the land of Israel,” says the Lord GOD, “that My fury will show in My face. 19 For in My jealousy and in the fire of My wrath I have spoken:
Madrid Conference of 1991
The Madrid Conference was hosted by the government of Spain and co-sponsored by the USA and the USSR. It convened on October 30, 1991 and lasted for three days. It was an early attempt by the international community to start a peace process through negotiations involving Israel and the Arab countries including Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and the Palestinians. In the aftermath of the 1991 Gulf War, US President George H.W. Bush and his Secretary of State James Baker formulated the framework of objectives, and together with the Soviet Union extended a letter of invitation, dated October 30, 1991 to Israel, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, and the Palestinians.
The Palestinian team, due to Israeli objections, was initially formally a part of a joint Palestinian-Jordanian delegation and consisted of Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza without open PLO association like Saeb Erekat, Faisal Husseini, Hanan Ashrawi and Haidar Abdel-Shafi, the head of the delegation, who were however in constant communication with the PLO leadership in Tunis.
The purpose of the conference was to serve as an opening forum for the participants and had no power to impose solutions or veto agreements. It inaugurated negotiations on both bilateral tracks and on multilateral tracks that also involved the international community. The Syrian and Lebanese negotiators agreed on a common strategy…
…'The idea is not to go backwards but to return to the basic formula that was established in Madrid: the exchange of land for peace,
At the end of the Madrid conference all participating countries appeared hopeful that the conference had resulted in a future road-map for reconciliation. The closing remarks presented below illustrate this hopeful sentiment:
Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir , 1 November 1991 “With an open heart, we call on the Arab leaders to take the courageous step and respond to our outstretched hand in peace” [8]
Head of the Palestinian Delegation, Haydar Abd al-Shafi, 1 November 1991 “To the cosponsors and to the international community that seeks the achievement of a just peace in the Middle East, you have given us a fair hearing. You cared enough to listen and for that we thank you. Thank you.” [9]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madrid_Conference_of_1991
…'The idea is not to go backwards but to return to the basic formula that was established in Madrid: the exchange of land for peace.
The Perfect Storm
October 1991
An enormous extratropical low is creating havoc along the entire Eastern Atlantic Seaboard in this infrared image at 1200 UTC (0700 EST) on October 30, 1991.
Labelled the 'perfect storm' by the National Weather Service, the storm sank the swordfishing boat Andrea Gail, whose story became the basis for the currently best-selling novel 'The Perfect Storm' by Sebastian Junger. A little-known and bizarre ending came to this monster, which came to be known as the Halloween Storm. To tell this incredible story in its entirety, the Satellite's Eye Art Gallery spans two subject headings (Extratropical Cyclones and Hurricanes)!
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/satellite/satelliteseye/cyclones/pfctstorm91/pfctstorm.html
BTW, the move Perfect Storm hit theaters in 2000 and network TV in 2004, anyone else notice this?
What's in a name?
GOG MGOG
Hebrew: Gimel Vav Gimel – Mem Gimel Vav Gimel.
The Hebrew letter ‘Mem’ as a prefix means 'from' or GOG from GOG, read GeOrGe from GeOrGe.
The GOG wars are the wars of GeOrGe.
Ezekiel
39:11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog.
Why would Israel give Gog a burial place if Gog was an enemy?
Gog and all his multitude, NATO? The Valley of Austere Challenge? October surprise?
'You're either with us or against us'
George W. Bush
Ezekiel 38:3 Thus says the Lord GOD: “Behold, I am against you, O Gog.
Oops!
Ezekiel 38:9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with Thee.
Desert Storm
Etc... As always there's lots and lots and lots more!
So, you post a link to a truther esq blog, then back it up with statements for a report that does not comport with the concussions of the blog.
You then recommend that I read the .gov report while also recommending other articles.. why not recommend the source document for the V.F. article
The Eleventh Day: The Full Story of 9/11 and Osama bin Laden
Which for the most part is a post mortem on the mistakes made by various levels of .gov
Well the initial effect of the Iraq war was to INCREASE the military presence of the USA within Saudi Arabia, during a war against a Sunni Muslim leader - this may well have ‘flushed out’ the Saudi radicals from the high grass - but I doubt very much if it was even a tertiary rational for the war.
You haven’t read the report.
I’m done.
Oil is a global commodity and is fungible. We are not awash in oil. Global demand continues to increase as we add 50 million a year to the world population and emerging economies like India and China are becoming more affluent and can afford more and more automobiles. Increased car ownership means higher oil requirements.
China supplanted the U.S. as the world’s largest auto market after its 2009 vehicle sales jumped 46 percent, ending more than a century of American dominance that started with the Model T Ford.
The nation’s sales of passenger cars, buses and trucks rose to 13.6 million, the fastest pace in at least 10 years, according to the China Association of Automobile Manufacturers. In the U.S., sales slumped 21 percent to 10.4 million, the fewest since 1982, according to Autodata Corp.
And exactly who decides how much profit the oil companies can make? Most of the world's oil is controlled by national companies, not the private sector.
Energy ... especially good old-fashioned crude awl, is a racket. If I were in on it, I wouldn't want to change it either!
Yeah right. It is the evil oil companies. Of course who gets those profits? Shareholders like you and me, pension funds, etc. It is no racket, but an essential industry that fuels the global economy. I can remember the oil embargo and lining up to get gas. If Israel attacks Iran, look for a real spike in prices and for shortages.
Bush promised us an endless war with terrorists. It looks like that's what we got. Instead of a blitzkrieg sinking of their navies, leveling their airfields, destroying their armor, and then air dropping light arms to rebels which would destroy criminal regimes using their own people, we got endless politically correct warfare. That's the political elite legacy of which Bush and Clinton belong, but Bush put his signature to this.
He gave us endless pat-downs in our airports - of upstanding citizens. That's the Bush legacy.
He gave us hordes of criminals crossing the border. That's the Bush legacy. I'll never get sick of criticizing Bush.
pity you.
The Saudis deserve to be shut down. They are a criminal enterprise. What is it that attracts American politicians to them? Philosophy? Religion? Their anti Zionist calls?Their friendliness? or money? Well if you don't pick the last one, you need to go back to the nursery. You are not ready for prime time.
The Saudis buy American political influence. They pay off politicians to rig the oil market for OPEC. Here they convince politicians to vote against home production of gas and oil. They drop their funds into foreign banks out of the reach of American regulators. Or, they pay retired politicians outrages fees for useless speeches (Clinton).
The Saudis are corrupting the American political system in a classic gangster style. so forget about 911. Take out the Saudis for the gangsters they are.
Who or what do you imagine replacing the house of Saud in Arabia?
Doesn't matter. We need to disolve the corrupt ties between them and our politicians. I don't expect a fair government to replace them. The more they eat themselves the better.
Doesn't matter. We need to disolve the corrupt ties between them and our politicians. I don't expect a fair government to replace them. The more they eat themselves the better.
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