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To: Mrs. Don-o

Absolutely.

I would also like to point out that Mohammed imposed requirements on who was subject to be intentionally killed in war. His standards were far below those, in theory, of today’s international law, but well above those routinely accepted in his day.

Mohammed would, again in theory, have been opposed to much of the practice of today’s Muslim terrorists. But it’s a complicated issue, with varying opinions reminiscent of the Talmud in their complexity.

Here’s a good discussion of sharia’s attitude towards “non-combatants.”

http://www.currenttrends.org/docLib/20061226_NoncombatantsFinal.pdf


32 posted on 09/13/2012 1:11:02 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Thanks for the link.

My understanding is that Islam lacks a concept of inherent human rights per se. They believe (I am told) that Allah created the world for the Umma, the Muslim people. Therefore anyone who is not Muslim is, in a sense, an interloper and a thief: someone who is occupying the ground he stands on without right, breathing air he has no right to breathe. Muslims may rightly decide to give this interloper the choice of becoming either a Muslim or a corpse.

They may also decide to permit such a person's continued existence, but only if his continued existence benefits the Umma. This justifies the toleration of the dhimmi: because they pay the jizya.

Like so much of Islam this --- if it is truly what they believe --- is a perverted form of what Christianity teaches. We believe that the whole world was created for Christ. (Col. 1:16 "All things were created through Him, all things were created for Him.")

(Don't know what your religion is, but let me think this out on paper here. I mean, in electrons :o)

To us that does not mean that the world was created only for Christians, or that only Christians have a right to life. It means... let's see if I can say this succinctly ... that the human race was created with Christ in view, so to speak.

In our origin: the image and likeness of God. In our nature: able to think and to choose. In our capacities: to be God's viceroys so to speak "Have dominion over the fish in the sea and over the birds in the air and over all living things that move upon the earth." (Gen 1:28) In our final end, which is to be with God in Christ.

Therefore it is the human race which has an inherent dignity, not just the Umma.

35 posted on 09/13/2012 2:20:04 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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