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To: Renfield; Travis McGee; Pelham; nathanbedford
You're a good poster but frankly who had slaves and who didn't is probably the last thing I think about when I wake up.

In fact I could care less and who owned them and who didn't

Who owned slaves is 99.9% of the time not a reflection of their views but rather whether they needed them or not...all the way until our little war here.

Slavery became a political issue with which to gain votes and inflame the base on both sides until the issue (expansion of to be precise) broke up the parties into 4 oddly enough and one fella managed to pull together around 39.8% of the vote and we know the rest

The thing to learn about slavery besides learning to resist that irresistible urge to preen self righteously over ones position over it today is that we are once again embarked on an eerily similar path with much the same ingredients tossed in the soup

and I for one think we will go to war once again to divide this country because the issues are too strongly felt to compromise or because that compromise would kill us.

Slavery to me is just a footnote of the human condition.

Applying fancy self aggrandizing moral posturing on it now far removed from when it mattered is a silly indulgence and makes about as much sense as Arab Springs and Peace with Honour.

Folks here who smear Jefferson are fools playing the enemy's game for them.

Am I the only freeper on this forum who feels like White Christian America is under a full throttle attack from our culture today and this administration in particular?

if so...then why in the hell would I care about an institution practiced forever and in which those brought here actually lived longer than where they came from and had more food and shelter and at least temporarily adopted some semblance of family structure both during and after said institution and other Christian and civilizing mores..why on earth do we fret over who brought them here or owned them 200 years ago...to make excuses for how too many of them behave today I suppose.

the issue has always been how to get so many of them up to speed with the rest of us?

you tell me...how has that turned out.. those here who have experience like I do in tropical African culture know this has not worked but declined markedly..whitelandia freepers have fantasies they formed from the Cosby show

why on earth worry about all that crap instead of focusing on the utter dissolution of their culture they once had here is simply an incredible indulgence of misplaced guilt

63 posted on 09/22/2012 10:36:09 AM PDT by wardaddy (this is a perfect window for Netanyahu to bomb Iran..I hereby give my go ahead..thanks Muzzie idiots)
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To: wardaddy

Well said wardaddy. The whole race thing today is a bigger mess than it has ever been. Our nation and culture is being destroyed and ripped apart at the seams as a direct result of it. Whether through manipulation or this perpetual running around in circles about it. All this constant slavery rehashing is very counter productive and hypocritical as hell not to mention where it is all leading to. Just look around at Obama and what race crap has bubbled to the surface and that is just some mild examples of what is really underneath. We are heading down a very troubled road. I don’t care who had slaves, I don’t care that blacks as a race can’t seem to get their stuff together and I certainly don’t care to hold myself or family hostage to all this ‘social justice’ BS of today. That many so called conservatives seem to wallow in it is proof enough of just how far left the whole country has moved. From Affirmative action and quotas to African American studies and Black Liberation Theology all this anti-white rhetoric is not only BS but very dangerous.


75 posted on 09/22/2012 11:50:36 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: wardaddy
Let me bump your excellent #63, for the common sense, fine historic perspective, and ability to focus on what is really important, here & now!

Cheers, wardaddy!

Bill Flax

76 posted on 09/22/2012 11:53:04 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: wardaddy

Excellent post.


91 posted on 09/23/2012 1:01:52 AM PDT by nicmarlo (I'll Take the Mormon Over the MORON)
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