Skip to comments.ADHD Vanity: Any FReeper a parent of a child with ADHD?
Posted on 09/30/2012 11:37:29 AM PDT by goodwithagun
I'm interested in how your child's ADHD diagnosis came about and how it affects your lives. I'm particularly interested in those using non-medical approaches to ADHD treatment such as vitamin/mineral supplementation and diet.
Nephew was very, very badly off. On ritalin. He’d vandalize anything he got close to.
Parents dropped the medication and went to diet. It just melted away. He’s grown now, and a journalist.
Parents dropped the medication and went to diet. It just melted away. Hes grown now, and a journalist.
...yes, diet is huge. Check with nutricianist and get the kid checked for food/additive allergies, and stay away from processed/prepared food and there will likely be a huge difference. Only do meds like Ritalin(speed) as a very last, given up hope, resort. Especially bad for boys.
He has never been “on sugar” as it tends to make him vomit. In fact, we don’t even give him fruit juice. We have a fairly healthy lifestyle. I nursed him for the first year so he never had formula, we eat no HFCS or trans fats, and we avoid soy. I cook most of our food from scratch, using ingredients from our garden. He is constantly busy with various activities and does not watch TV. He does play Angry Birds on the potty. From my research there are several underlying causes of ADHD, and the drugs simply mask the symptoms. That is why I’m interested in FReepers who have taken the alternate approach.
My son was told he had ADHD. I let his mother put him on Ritalin and was the proud father of a zombie. After 6 months I told her the experiment was off. I took him off, and treated him like any young boy, made sure we were active in his life at and away from school. No diet, no weird vitamins, just love. He is now a 21 year old and an EMT studying to be a paramedic.
I would have been diagnosed with ADHD as a boy as well. Instead I managed to graduate summa cum laude, have a great military career and graduated from college with honors. To me, ADHD is nothing more than part of making little boys be something they are not.
I can only tell you what my brother did with his son.
They did not give him meds on weekends, holidays or summers.
They kept him busy.
Used his talents in an active way.
When he was in high school, he asked he not go to high school in the US and went to Columbia with a missionary family built homes, farmed and studied independently.
He asked not to take the meds any longer, they agreed together.
That was the highest academic year he had.
He is a healthy happy married adult with four kids.
He is still really busy.
Being busy and full of energy is not an illness.
Unfortunately, I think schools don’t want to deal with busy active children (especially boys) so quickly go for sedating them after convincing parents there is a problem with active and busy.
My son was diagnosed almost 20 years ago.
The meds then were particularly awful.
I did the research, and reduced refined sugar to almost nothing, and got rid of caffeine all together.
But, I think the big difference came by adding quality omega-3 to the multi vit+min that he was on.
Try omegabrite.com. Their kid suppliments are wonderful. They take at least a month to six weeks to fully kick in, but it made a big difference.
BTW, my son was never on any meds and did just fine.
This beyond my son being a rambunctious boy, and regardless of his diagnosis I will not put him on drugs. That is why I’m interested in those who’ve tried diets and supplementation.
By the way, ADHD has nothing to do with intelligence level.
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I know that, What I am saying is that the drugs made him a zombie and almost no learning that year at school. Since is a bright boy he bounced back.
Again, love and active in his life making sure he is not bored. You don’t need to go looking for vitamin and supplement answers when there is none. And yes, its not just rambunctious, mine seemed to like fire.
I’ve researched omega 3’s and vitamins. It seems that those with ADHD are very deficient in omega 3’s, vitamin B, magnesium, and calcium. The vitamin B’s they tend to burn through quickly. I’ve also researched probiotics and enzymes. There seems a correlation there as well.
Two of my three children were diagnosed, one with mild ADD and the younger with ADHD. We were urged to put the younger on meds.
We did not.
We did keep both in a small private school through elementary, working closely with teachers on setting boundaries and teaching venues for appropriate behavior. For example, it’s fine to talk to yourself and run in circles at recess, not so much in math class. This comes naturally to the child with normal attention, but not to one with ADD.
Puncturing the daydeams of the one with ADD was a real challenge. Sometimes took all evening just to get simple assignments done, because his mind wandered even when he wanted to finish and go play.
Behavior management worked, but it was, in itself, a lot of work. They have always been square pegs in round holes, but they learned to adapt. Sometimes teachers didn’t like them, but other teachers urged me to keep them off meds to preserve their creativity.
Today both are grown, both have graduate engineering degrees and are successful professionals. They are not your stereotypical tech types, still have wandering and creative minds, and I love them dearly.
You are completely correct. When mothers stayed home with their children there was no adhd.
“ADHD is a made up disease to peddle drugs to children and make them easy to control. Take your kid off all sugar and keep them busy.”
Actual medical research shows that those diagnosed have severely depleted levels of omega 3’s, B vitamins, calcium, and magnesium. All of these have therapeutic effects on ADHD symptoms, and many parents swear that taking care of the vitamin/mineral deficiencies eliminated the ADHD. The medical field does not like this approach because it makes them irrelevant. I recently had my vitamin and mineral levels checked and found I was very low in some areas. Since I’ve increased my supplements in those areas I feel like a new woman.
Vitamin B deficiency does not cause a fascination with fire. I am just glad his twin sister was a tattletale!
Son was diagnosed at 8. I think the reason for it is an overload of stimuli in the classroom. When we were kids, there was an alphabet, a number line and a chalkboard. Today the halls are adorned with all sorts of pictures and other stuff the kids create.
Needless to say, my kid is now 17, been on Straterra for years and is doing great. Straight A student, businessman and pillar of the community.
Some take to meds, some take to diet, some take to a shot to the chops with a “pay attention!”
My son doesn’t eat sugar (or HFCS, soy, and trans fats) and we keep him busy with plenty of physical activity. In fact, he doesn’t watch TV. Any other suggestions since you’re such an expert? For his constant, uncontrollable vocal activity should I tape his mouth shut?
When I was a kid there was no such thing...just kids.
I agree. After much research, I concluded ADHD is a fraud. I was among the first generation (born 1956)to be (mis)diagnosed as having, then called, ADD and put on Ritalin. I think that every kid could arguably be positively diagnosed with ADHD. Be wary - please - drug have many very dangerous side effects, particularly damaging to the heart.
There is a good book in the subject: The ADHD Fraud: How Psychiatry Makes “Patients” of Normal Children by Fred A. Baughman Jr. check it out on Amazon.com.
I’m now 48 and have fully recovered from that hell, which I suffered as a child until age 34. In hindsight, I would recommend weight lifting, running, and/or any strenuous sport for exercise. Then, at age 18 or later, begin ritalin. As per diet, low carbs and high on fruits and vegetables. Lastly, at least 8 hours of sleep. As per mental simulation, good books and visually intensive classes are a huge help. This is where I disagree with Rush Limbaugh... This disability is quite real and (can be) horrible!
I know. Everyone wants to tell me my kid is normal. He wakes up at 7 and goes to bet at 8. He hasn’t napped since he was 16 months old. He uses his bounce house and trike for 2-3 hours, when he is not doing that or eating he is running in circles either singing or making as weird of noises as he can. The only time he sits down is on the potty and during meals, and even then he’s constantly hopping down. It’s frustrating because no punishment discourages this behavior. he has even become self tattling. Despite spankings and time outs, he constantly repeats his misbehavior. Just now he was in the bathroom singing in various tones, “Get out of the toothpaste!” when I walked in he had toothpaste all over the place. It is getting beyond frustrating. The one thing I know is IF he’s diagnosed I won’t put him on drugs.
ADHD is not a made-up disease. It is over-diagnosed and often mistreated.
Remember when it wasn't a disease, but when boys were called 'day-dreamers' ?
When the source of the problem was that those boys were mentally very active, and were being bored to death in the classroom?
Remember loading up old model planes with firecrackers, setting them on fire, and throwing them across the yard while visualizing a major aerial battle ?
They'd put us in jail if we did that now.
I STRONGLY encourage you to visit this site: LDONLINE. Here you will find a wealth of information on ADHD as well as other learning disabilities. It is through this web site that I was able to connect with the professor who directed me to that local college that assisted my daughter and helped to get her on track.
Even though your response was meant to mock and insult me, I will answer you. It’s not just a question of food, though that is important. Is the child’s mother at home or at work? Children who can’t stop talking are anxious and need more attention than they are getting. Sometimes they have very high I.Q.s and don’t have enough to engage them. None of what I say is intended as criticism of you. I’d have to see how you live to give good advice. Your child might have strong musical talent and not have an outlet for it. He might be a genius who is bored. Take him to get serious drawing lessons. There could be a hundred reasons for his behavior, but one of them is not a disorder that was made up out of whole cloth fifteen minutes ago.
ADD and ADHD is a result of magnesium deficiency. Take mag malate, glycinate or citrate. Do not take oxide.
You’ll definitely see the attention deficit go by the wayside if you give mag regularly and high enough doses.
Unfortunately, I think schools dont want to deal with busy active children (especially boys) so quickly go for sedating them after convincing parents there is a problem with active and busy.
I would agree. Add to that the tendency of today's parents to not (want to, have the time, or even know how to) discipline their children, and the parents and teachers WIN, the child LOSES.
“Remember loading up old model planes with firecrackers, setting them on fire, and throwing them across the yard while visualizing a major aerial battle ?”
That wasn’t ADHD, it was just having fun.
For me, the success of the student is number one. Medication needs time for adjustment and if a child is a zombie, then the dose isn't correct. Also, the stop and start of taking the child off meds on weekends and summers is never reccommended. Meds like these need consistency and once your doctor has gotten the dosage worked out, stopping it for two days, then starting it up again puts the child on an up and down roller coaster.
Again, the success of the child, which in turn makes them feel better about themselves, is the most important factor in my book.
They learned control by collage and have gone on to do great things.
I can not say it was a lot of fun but they were mine to love and raise and I wanted the best for them. At the time I did not think drugs and labels would give them the best in the long run.
Thank you for your share! I re-read a lot of the comments from the skeptics, and after some more thought, ADD and ADHD really doesn’t MEAN ANYTHING. The problems that your son and I suffer can be a combination of many of the problems described by many, here. As an aside, I also remember never drinking enough water, which became a bad habit. I was also afraid of public toilets (I laugh, today, but as a neurotic germaphobic kid, it’s NOT healthy!). I bring this up to see if you can identify these symptoms as well? I can’t imagine the toxins that must have been in my body at age nine, just based on the latter two poor habits.
Just the schooling part. The rest was wonderful and I am very glad I changed my life plans and put them first.
All normal boys are diagnosed as being ADHD when in the public school system. The schools are designed to destroy Virtue and the protective nature of boys-—and make them into dependent zombies.
I was asked to considered my son as ADHD. I laughed. He was reading in kindergarden and the most coordinated boy—and could sit for hours and draw elaborate scenes of army tanks and aircraft and explosions. That was the problem-—he was a very intelligent, normal BOY!
Our government schools want dummies who take orders and don’t question authority.
The drugs they proscribe are toxins to the brain and are very harmful to all children. It is toxins which make them abnormal. Clean up their environment—food supply-—water-—and for goodness sakes—get their minds away from the BF Skinner curricula which is trying to de-masculate them and turn them into dress-wearing zombies.
John Wayne types—God-fearing men-— can NEVER be controlled by fascism.
Hes grown now, and a journalist.
My sympathies to your family. ;)
1) Boy diagnosed at 5 years old by a young doctor with the latest up to date education and training.
2) Sister 16months older, raised exactly the same way, totally normal.
3) Difference between the two is black and white, night and day.
4) Both very intelligent, in gate-advanced education programs etc.
5) Boy treated with concerta (slow-release) a few years. Became less effective with time. Switched to ritalin.
If he does not take meds, it’s obvious. If he takes the meds, he’s able to concentrate and focus and control himself.
Anyone who still believes (in 2012) that ADD/ADHD is a made-up disease is operating off extremely old steretypes and misinformation. I used to think it was just an excuse for bad parenting. Having a kid with real ADD, and seeing the irrefutable affects of the medication, converted me to being more open minded.
Supposedly, many grow out of it.
We try to keep him off medication on weekends, or during the week after homework is done. However, anyone who wants to roll the dice and let their kid suffer through the formative educational years, don’t buy it.
A typical day might begin with me going to the car to get my lunchbox so I can wash it. I notice that the car needs to be cleaned, and pick up a few cans and bottles. I need a garbage bag.
Go inside to get a garbage bag, notice that the garbage needs to go out. DO that, get back to the car - no garbage bag. Go back inside to get bag, see lunchbox, and decide to clean it before I forget. I get the cleaner, notice that the dryer is finished, take clothes out and fold them. Remember the car. Go out there - no garbage bag.
I take Vyvanse now, and it helps sort things out. Not a cure-all. To avoid a day like the one above, it takes meds, and a lot of to do lists and sticky notes. #39;t imagine not being able to focus on a task for more than a few minutes. I often have 5-6 projects running simultaneously
It’s definitely real but does NOT need to be treated with medication; the supplement magnesium is what he/she is deficient in.
You would not believe the list of symptoms that are present when mag is absent. ADD being one of many.
I’m going to trust the opinion of three different doctors, and the results of two extremely thorough bloodwork studies. He was never deficient in anything of any type. We tried non-mediation first, as we have a very prominent person in our family that is a total anti-medicine pro-natural-treatment guru. After reviewing the results, they reluctantly suggested we try to concerta. Their personal observations confirmed for them as well - it’s real, and it’s necessary to treat with medication.
HOWEVER, there are NO DOUBT misdiagnoses, overmedication, and I wholeheartedly agree that multiple opinions should be sought, AND non-medication solutions should be tried first.
Smalltown rag of the sensible sort, not wapo ;).
But when he was around ten he got hold of a single screwdriver and had 2 hours alone with the neighbour’s snowmobile. Just pieces left of the whole thing, nothing bigger than 5 inches. Drama.
Thing parked outside neighbour’s house, owner inside.
A lot of ADHD is complex mixed up mess:
(1) a kid frustrated by their own limitations,
(2) usualy (badly) mishandled by adults in their world who are looking for the most convenient solution.... AND
(3) Add considerable levels of boredom.... there ya go.
The student needs to be comprehensively tested for ALL learning disabilities & learning style issues.
We had one child with some mild dyslexia. It was good that we were homeschooling at the time.... so "We the Parents..." made all the calls in finding the right solutions.
We found some very simple explanations and effective resources in a book by Ron Davis - "THE GIFT OF DYSLEXIA".
Hope this helps....
Yes it is made up, to sell ritalin.
Thank you for that. In karate and swimming lessons I’m made to feel like the bad parent, the one who does not discipline her child properly. My husband is home for 48 hours at a time so it’s not lack of proper male role model. In fact, my son’s 2-3 hours of bounce house/trike time is while my husband is working out. It’s their time together while our daughter is napping. We just left karate because my son could not focus and stay still. We’ve tried just about every method of discipline: spanking, time outs, taking away special toys, explaining good and bad behavior, etc. His actions continue. Right now he is in the kitchen jumping up and down in a circle while reading a Leap Frog book and sing a Taylor Swift song. He’s been up since 7 am and has had no nap. If I ask him to say a Hail Mary, Our Father, or his four karate statements (positive statements all his teacher’s students must memorize) he can rattle them off perfectly, all while fidgeting excessively and looking everywhere but at me. None of the other four year olds in his class can memorize the first one properly, but they can stay in their spot and mind the instructor. When an instructor works with him one on one, my son gets it instantly. When he’s with the small group he dances in a circle and violates the other students’ personal space. The child is intelligent, but just cannot focus regardless of what I do. At breakfast yesterday morning I actually considered tying him to his chair. I just couldn’t take it anymore.
“I have learned one thing, kids on ritilan have a 95% chance of being hooked on drugs as an adult.”
It has been my observation that kids who had to take ritalin (or adderall) grew up to hate taking any meds/drugs whatsoever. Are there studies you could link to confirm your 95% hooked on drugs assertion ?
Just so you know, you can’t test mag in the blood. mag is stored inthe bones and teeth, mainly, it is not in the blood by testable measure.
Dittos but also ensure the child gets enough sleep and don’t drag them all over the place.
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